Apr 11, 2019 MPO Board Meeting

[1. Call to Order and Pledge]

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MORNING EVERYBODY I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER WELCOME YOU ALL TO THE APRIL MPO MEETING, WE DO YOU HAVE A QUORUM. WOULD YOU JOIN ME. PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE TO THE FLAG. 

[2. Electronic Roll Call]

[3. Approval of Minutes - March 14, 2019]

[4. Approval of Agenda]

[5. Public Comments]

THE FLORIDA BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS HAS DECIDED TO FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST CHRISTINE [INAUDIBLE]. ENGINEER ON RECORD FOR THE LANE ELIMINATION APPLICATION NOW UNDERWAY ON WILTON DRIVE AND NE 4TH AVENUE. SHE USED INCORRECT TRAFFIC DATA WHICH WILL CREATE ANOTHER F GRADED INTERSECTION WHICH WE REALLY DON'T NEED.

THERE WERE MANY OTHER MISTAKES MADE BY HER. SHE DIDN'T EVEN SIGN THE DOCUMENT.

HOW COULD THE MPO LET THIS HAPPEN. SHE COULD LOSE HER ENGINEERING LICENSE A REPORTER ASKED ME HOW I FELT ABOUT THIS. I EXPLAINED THAT A MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE SENT OUT TO THE ROAD PLANNERS. THE PUBLIC WILL NOT PUT UP WITH BEING LIED TO ABOUT TRAFFIC WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE AMONG FORT LAUDERDALE RESIDENTS AND PROBABLY MOST BROWARD COUNTY RESIDENTS. A 2016 SUN-SENTINEL ARTICLE STATES QUOTE INSTEAD OF FIXING THE PROBLEM GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE DELIBERATELY ADDING TO IT IN HOPES WE'LL WALK RIDE THE BUS OR TAKE THE TRAIN UNQUOTE. DURING MY LAST SPEECH TO THE MPO SOME OF YOU LAUGHED WHEN I READ GOOGLE REVIEWS ABOUT COUNTY BUS SYSTEM. IT MUST BE REAL FUNNY TO YOU SINCE YOU ALL DROVE HERE IN YOUR CARS. HERE'S A THREE MONTH OLD REVIEW TO THE OF THE BROWARD CENTRAL TERMINAL. WRITTEN BY T.J. RIVERA.

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GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU ALL. AT YOUR MEETING MARCH 14TH I ASKED WHOSE DECISION IT WAS TO WIDEN THE EXISTING THREE FOOT BIKE LANES ON THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY NORTH OF SAMPLE ROAD WHEN IT APPEARS THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER AREAS WITH NO BIKE LANES WHATSOEVER. SINCE THE SAFETY OF BICYCLISTS IS THE MPO'S PRIMARY GOAL, I ASKED IF THERE WAS ANY SPECIFIC RESEARCH DATA AS TO HOW MANY BICYCLES CURRENTLY USE THIS PART OF FEDERAL AS COMPARED TO OTHER LOCATIONS AND DOES THAT WARRANT THIS SIX TO TWELVE MILLION DOLLAR WIDENING PROJECT. I ALSO STATED THAT THERE WERE NO BIKE LANES AT ALL ON ATLANTIC BOULEVARD STARTING TWO BLOCKS WEST OF FEDERAL AND ALL THE WAY TO DIXIE HIGHWAY OR ON DIXIE HIGHWAY WHERE DIXIE SPLITS SOUTH OF ATLANTIC OR ON COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD BETWEEN FEDERAL HIGHWAY AND DIXIE. FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SAFETY FOR BICYCLISTS SHOULDN'T THERE BE BIKE LANES IN THESE MORE POPULATED AREAS OF POMPANO AND FORT LAUDERDALE WHERE THERE ARE MANY MORE BICYCLISTS. THERE ARE MANY BUSY STRETCHES ON US1 WITH NO BIKE LANES WHATSOEVER. I ASKED IF THE MPO WAS PLANNING TO ADD BIKE LANES IN ANY OTHER AREAS WHERE THERE ARE CURRENTLY NARROW BIKE LANES OR NO BIKE LANES AT ALL. IF YES ARE ANY OF THESE AREAS SCHEDULED BEFORE OR AFTER THIS STRETCH BETWEEN SAMPLE ROAD AND HILLSBOROUGH BOULEVARD. AS I WAS LEAVING LAST MONTH'S MEETING MR STUART AND MR TRANTALIS MET WITH ME TO DISCUSS THESE MATTERS AND THEY PROMISED TO PROVIDE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS. I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL RESPONSE FROM MR. TRANTALIS A FEW DAYS AFTER OUR MEETING SAYING HE WAS BUSY AND HE WAS GOING TO RESEARCH THE MATTER. THEREFORE WITH THIS REMINDERM I HOPE I WILL BE RECEIVING THOSE ANSWERS SOON AND I THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MR. STUART, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND AT ALL. YEAH ACTUALLY I DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND MR. BENTZ I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY AGAIN. WE DID MEET WITH MR. BENTZ AND HIS DAUGHTER AFTER THE BOARD MEETING FOR ABOUT ALMOST AN HOUR TO RESPOND TO SEVERAL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE REITERATED AGAIN. AND WHILE THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY PROJECT IS A STATE FACILITY AND IT IS PART OF A LARGER REQUIREMENT BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE THAT ALL STATE FACILITIES HAVE BICYCLE LANES. THE INCREASED SAFETY FACTOR THAT'S BEING ADDED IN LIGHTHOUSE POINT IN DEERFIELD BEACH IS IN POMPANO IS ACTUALLY A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE BIKE LANES. SO IT'S AN INCREASED BUFFER. STAFF HAD MET THREE TIMES WITH THE CITY OF LIGHTHOUSE POINT AND THEIR STAFF AS WELL AS THEIR COMMISSIONS IN THE LAST YEAR TO DISCUSS THIS PROJECT. AS MANY OF YOU MAY REMEMBER THERE WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED AND SOME ODD TREES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF A THAT WERE TO BE REMOVED AND

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OUR EPWP OUR BUDGET TO TRY TO PUT BICYCLE COUNTERS INTO OTHER AREAS. AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE SOME IN DOWNTOWN FORT LAUDERDALE AND OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MORE URBAN PSEUDO SUBURBAN AREAS LIKE THIS OR A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH THOUGH. SO I'LL CALL ON COMMISSIONER SOFIELD IN JUST A MINUTE MR. STUART YOU REFERENCED THAT THE PREVIOUS LIGHTHOUSE POINT COMMISSION HAD APPROVED THIS PROJECT FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO. CORRECT? PRESIDENT JOHNSON. GO AHEAD.

YOUR MIC ON? MIC IS ON. THERE WE GO. O F F O N. NO WE DIDN'T. WE DIDN'T APPROVE THAT SIX YEARS AGO WE WERE ACTUALLY.

THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL WE SAW THE TREES THAT ALL HAD THE PINK RIBBONS ON IT THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO COME DOWN. BUT WHEN WE DID BECOME AWARE OF IT WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE MPO AND FDOT AND THEY MOVED INSTEAD OF COMING DOWN THE CURB SIDE WHERE ALL THE ROYAL PALM TREES WERE THROUGH THE WHOLE LENGTH OF OUR TOWN THERE. THEY MOVED THE IT OVER WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE FROM THE BIKE LANE. BUT I POINTED OUT AT MY COMMISSION AGAIN WHEN IT CAME UP TUESDAY NIGHT THAT AFTER WE HAD NEGOTIATED AND SAID THANK YOU TO THE MPO AND ALL AT OUR NOVEMBER 13TH MEETING WHICH IS ONLINE AND I POINTED OUT LEO YOU KNOW TO FOR PEOPLE TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THAT AGAIN. WHEN SCOTT THURMAN CAME AND ADDRESSED US THERE WAS NO MAJOR OBJECTIONS WHATSOEVER FROM OUR CITY COMMISSION. THEY WERE SAVING OUR TREES WE WERE LOSING JUST A FEW. THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE AWAY LEFT TURN LANE THAT WAS VERY DANGEROUS AND NO ONE HAD ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY. THEY JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW THEY WERE GOING TO REPAVE THE ROAD AND WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND SO ON. FOUR MONTHS LATER THIS ALL RAISED ITS HEAD AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHY. AND THE COMMISSION AND GOT ALL FEISTY ABOUT IT AND SENT THIS

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FORMER PRESIDENT JOHNSON I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO CALL YOU. COMMISSIONER? OK. THERE YOU GO. YEAH I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THING THAT THE MPO AND FDOT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE HELPFUL THAN THEY WERE WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THEY SAT WITH US.

THEY CAME. THEY SPENT HOURS WITH US AND THEY WORKED AS HARD AS THEY POSSIBLY COULD TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY. AND SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW HOW PROUD I WAS OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF HOW HARD THEY WORK TO COOPERATE WITH US. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CAN I RESPOND OR IS THAT NOT PROPER. BRIEFLY SIR IN MY OPENING SENTENCE I THINK I MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A 12 MILLION DOLLAR ESTIMATE FOR THE COST OF THIS WORK TO WIDEN THE BIKE LANES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. THEN WHEN THE ISSUE OF TREES CAME UP THEN IT WENT BACK AND IT CAME BACK TO THE CITY THAT OH IF WE DO THE MEDIAN IT ONLY COST SIX MILLION DOLLARS. SO BY AN ODD ON COMMENT ABOUT TREES IN LIGHTHOUSE POINT WE SAVED THE TAXPAYERS SIX MILLION DOLLARS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE IF WE HAD NOT RAISED THAT. NOW I'M ASKING FOR OTHER RESEARCH

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WASN'T PROVIDED. WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS WHO HAVE ASKED FOR EXCUSED ABSENCES AND

[6. Approval of Excused Absences]

WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES MAYOR ORTIS. MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES. I'M RIGHT HERE. I KNOW I COULD SEE YOU. HELLO. HELLO MR. CHAIRMAN POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE IF I MIGHT YOU MENTIONED A MOMENT AGO US ATTENDING THE MEETING LAST WEEK AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW IMPRESSED I WAS WITH OUR STAFF AND THE JOB THEY DID AND HOW I GOT THE IMPRESSION HOW IMPRESSED THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE VISITING US WERE WITH OUR GREAT MPO. IT'S A HONOR AND A PLEASURE TO BE WORKING ON THIS MPO WITH OUR GREAT STAFF. I MEAN THEY JUST WALKED MILES TO THESE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO VISIT. SO I WAS I WAS HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU. AND AND I'M SURE COUNCIL MEMBER CALETKA WILL WOULD SECOND THAT AND I WOULD AGREE THERE'S A QUITE A PROCESS I THINK NOBODY CALLED ON YOU. SIDEBARS BREAK THE TENSION DON'T THEY. OK I'M GOING

[7. Comments from the Chair]

SO VERY FASCINATING BUT WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. FOR MY EAST COAST BOARD MEMBERS, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT BRIGHTLINE ALSO KNOWN AS ALL ABOARD FLORIDA ALSO KNOWN AS VIRGIN TRAINS DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY IT IS. ADRIAN [INAUDIBLE] WE PROVIDED THIS SENT THIS OUT YESTERDAY TO ALL THE CITY MANAGERS AS WELL AS MANY OF THE MEMBERS ALONG THE CORRIDOR ON THE QUIET ZONES AND WHERE WE ARE THIS IS DATED WEDNESDAY APRIL 10TH. BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AGAIN IS A NEW TARGET DATE OF COMPLETION ON APRIL 22ND. THEIR CURRENT RATIONALE IS THE POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL ALSO KNOWN AS PTC. THEY ACTUALLY STARTED TO DO THE FINAL INSTALLATION OF THAT FROM FORT LAUDERDALE TO DOWNTOWN MIAMI. THEY HAD THE SERVICE FROM FORT LAUDERDALE TO MIAMI CENTRAL CLOSED FOR 36 HOURS TO DO THE INSTALLATION. HOWEVER IT WAS NOT COMPLETED DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. SO THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER CLOSURE OF SERVICE BETWEEN MIAMI AND FORT LAUDERDALE PROBABLY OVER THIS NEXT WEEKEND TO GET TO THE APRIL 22ND DEADLINE ONCE COMPLETE COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD AND MONROE STREET COMMERCIAL IN OAKLAND PARK AND MONROE STREET IN THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD. THOSE TWO CROSSINGS ARE GOING TO THEN BE IMPROVED. AND AT THAT POINT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE EQUIPMENT IS IN PLACE ALL THE OTHER EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN VERIFIED WITH THAT VERY IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT WILL THEN BEGIN THAT COUNTDOWN CLOCK. SO IF THIS IS A BIG IF BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN USING IF ON THIS FOR I WANT TO SAY A GOOD YEAR NOW TWO YEARS TOM YOU'VE BEEN COUNTING THE TRAIN ORDINANCE HAVEN'T YOU ACTUALLY VICE MAYOR GREEN SO YOU KNOW THE THE BIGGER THE BIGGER PICTURE WITH THIS AS IF THEY NOW STAY ON TRACK. NO PUN THEN WE WILL ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE QUIET ZONES ON MAY 1ST SO MAY 1ST. MAY DAY. THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR. SO THAT IS 2019. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS THE LATEST I HAVE FROM THEM. IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING FOR ALL OF US AND I TRUST ME THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GOOD DEEDS GO ON. NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED FOR THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC FROM ALL THE MANAGERS THAT ARE CALLING IN. YOU KNOW WE'VE ALL BEEN GETTING INUNDATED WHEN IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW THE TECHNOLOGY JUST WASN'T IN THE GROUND IN BROWARD. IRONICALLY PALM BEACH COUNTY HAD MORE RICH EQUIPMENT THAN WE HAD HERE IN BROWARD. I GUESS IT'S PROBABLY THAT'S

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WE ARE FOLLOWING THAT CLOSELY BECAUSE THAT IS A REVENUE GENERATOR FOR OUR AREA AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO END ON THE FEDERAL CERTIFICATION. EVERY FOUR YEARS THIS ORGANIZATION GOES THROUGH A CERTIFICATION. THIS IS MINE AND MIKE'S THIRD TIME AROUND AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS IN TIME. WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBERS BEING A MAJORITY OF THAT MEETING. THEY COME IN AND DO A DESK AUDIT OF WHERE WE ARE. THEY LOOK AT OUR FILES THEY GO THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT CODES AND OUR PROCUREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT REQUIRING THINGS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH FEDERAL LAW. MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF WORK WITH OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS AND THEN FOCUSING ON HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES. I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE WORD ANYMORE. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THERE'S A NEW WORD FOR THIS. EQUITY AREAS. AND AND BASICALLY YOU KNOW SEE HOW WE'RE DOING. ONE OF THE COMMENTS ON OUR EQUITY AREA WORK FROM THE LEAD ATTORNEY FOR FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION IN THAT AREA WAS I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH TO HELP YOU WITH THE NEXT TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE OUTPACED WHERE THEY ARE NATIONALLY. THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS OF PRIDE. ANOTHER AREA OF PRIDE THAT THEY REALLY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE LEADERSHIP THAT THIS ORGANIZATION PROVIDES STATEWIDE BECAUSE WE DO. IT WAS WHERE WE ARE NATIONALLY. AND WHILE WE ARE NOT THE LARGEST MPO IN THE NATION WE ARE AMONG THE MOST PROGRESSIVE AND ONE OF ACCORDING TO THEM ONE OF THE MOST GOAL ORIENTED ORGANIZATIONS THEY'VE REVIEWED. SO THAT IS A TESTAMENT NOT JUST TO THE TEAM WE'VE DEVELOPED HERE BUT YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS BOARD AND THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE ALL PROVIDED US THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HONESTLY GO BEYOND WHERE ANY OF OUR PARTNERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE AND TAKE OUR PLACE RIGHTFULLY SO WITH OUR NATIONAL LEADERS. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU OWE A LOT TO BE PROUD OF. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE VICE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR IF THEY WANT TO MAKE MORE COMMENTS ON WHAT THEY SAW. YES I AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF MR. STUART.

YOU KNOW WE HAD FEDERAL HIGHWAYS THERE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR QUITE A TIME ON THE MPOAC BUT I KEPT HEARING ESPECIALLY FOR LIKE THE TITLE SIX OFFICER THAT WAS THERE THAT THEY HAD NEVER SEEN THIS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THE SAME GROUP IS THE AUDIT AND CERTIFICATION FOR ALL MPOS IN THE COUNTRY. AND OF COURSE IT'S ONLY EVERY FOUR YEARS. BUT THEY KEPT SAYING I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS ANYWHERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY REALLY PRIDED US ON AND THIS IS SOMETHING YOU KNOW WE KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES VERY WELL YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN SERVING IN DAVIE FOR A WHILE BUT I KNEW OF MY COMMUNITY AND WHEN THEY WERE GIVING THE DEMONSTRATION OF THE EQUITY MAPS WHICH IS ACTUALLY ON THE BROWARD MPO.ORG WEBSITE YOU CAN GO SEE IT YOURSELF SITTING NEXT TO MAYOR ORTIS AND MAYOR ORTIS MADE A COMMENT TO

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CHRIS DID A REPORT ON PERFORMANCE MEASURES OF THE MPO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO EVERYBODY ELECTRONICALLY. WE SENT IT OUT TO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD.

IT'S VERY RICH AND VERY DENSE BUT VERY CLEAR ONCE YOU GET INTO IT TO LOOK AT HOW WE MEASURE OUR OWN PERFORMANCE. THE OTHER PART WAS SOMETHING PAUL FLAVIEN DID WHICH I WISH WAS STILL HERE WAS JUST A WHAT YOU CALL A BOARD AMOUNT BOARD YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT. WELL IT'S BACK THERE. IT BREAKS DOWN DADE BROWARD AND PALM BEACH COUNTY ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS. NO. NO BUT SHE'S HOLDING IT UP IN THE BACK. AND I WOULD I WISH YOU WOULD SEND THAT OUT EVERYBODY ELECTRONICALLY. HIGHEST MEDIAN AGE IS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY. THAT SURPRISED ME. BUT WHAT I FOUND MOST INTERESTING AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT IT TALKS ABOUT LANGUAGE AND IT'S 40 PERCENT OF BROWARD COUNTY WHERE ENGLISH IS NOT THE PREDOMINANT LANGUAGE. NOW THAT THE NUMBER IS SHOCKING BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE. MOST OF US KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WE'RE INVOLVED OR I AM I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS OUT ONE ON ONE WITH SUPERINTENDENT [INAUDIBLE] 40 PERCENT OF MY POPULATION DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH AT HOME. THE CHILDREN THAT ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE NOT GOING TO BE PREPARED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THESE ARE REALLY ISSUES THAT THIS INFORMATION THAT PAUL AND OTHERS HAVE GATHERED IS USEFUL IN SO MANY WAYS OTHER THAN JUST IN TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. SO IF YOU WOULD ERICA SEND THAT OUT TO THE MEMBERS I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS TO THE STAFF WHICH WHO FILLED THIS ARENA.

VICE MAYOR GREEN YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT UNLIKE YOU BUT YOU HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT. I'VE ALREADY GIVEN THE SPEECH TWICE. FIRST OF ALL I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I THINK IN HOLLYWOOD ONE OF YOUR LANGUAGES THAT SPOKEN AT HOME IS RUSSIAN.

YES. AND THAT THAT SURPRISED ME I FOUND OUT BY GOING INTO A GROCERY STORE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HOLLYWOOD. IT WAS AMAZING. YOU KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE GROCERY STORE WERE WRITTEN IN THE CYRILLIC ALPHABET. SO WHO KNEW. I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB. AND WE KNEW IT

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SO NOT BLOCKING THE ROADWAY JUST BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK IS NOT REALLY MAKING A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I WAS TOLD THAT IT'S NOT A DANGEROUS ENOUGH INTERSECTION TO WORRY ABOUT IT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY PLANS IN THE FUTURE TO COME UP WITH SOME OTHER WAY TO KEEP ALL THESE PEOPLE FROM RUNNING AROUND THE EDGE OF THIS LITTLE SHORT THING THAT COMES DOWN. SO VICE MAYOR JUST SO YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE REST OF EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WE HAVE THESE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES THE PEDESTRIAN GUARDS WERE ACTUALLY DESIGNED KNOW THAT WAS PART OF TRYING TO GET THE QUIET ZONE INTO PLACE. VIRGIN TRAINS RECEIVED A [INAUDIBLE] GRANT ALONG WITH THE CITY'S ARE YOU ALL COMMITTED TO FUND THAT SHARE THAT LOCAL SHARE THEY DID RECEIVE THAT SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL CROSSINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE PUT IN. THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE QUIET ZONE REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE JUST ADDITIONAL SAFETY EQUIPMENT. SO THE PARTICULAR STREET YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE I WALK IT AS WELL. YOU GO AROUND THE EDGE REALLY I'M NOT GOING TO SAY BECAUSE THAT'S TRESPASSING BUT YOU COULD. SO THE REALITY IS IS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND BUT THAT WAS WHAT WAS REQUIRED TO MEET THE FEDERAL AROUND THE ADMINISTRATION'S QUIET ZONE CALCULATOR. AND SO WE HAD TO DO WHAT WE HAD TO DO. SOMETIMES IT'S QUESTIONABLE SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT IT AND GO GOSH THAT MAKES NO SENSE BUT IT DOES TO SOMEBODY IN WASHINGTON AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ULTIMATELY DECIDE. SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S THAT AGAIN THAT PARTICULAR CROSSING IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE I BELIEVE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT NEW EQUIPMENT IN AS WELL WITH THE NEXT AWARD THAT CAME OUT SO. BUT THAT'S NOT MONEY COMING OUT OF THIS MPO'S BUDGET IS ACTUALLY COMING UP DIRECTLY FROM USDOT. AND OF COURSE YOUR GENERAL FUND AS WELL. SO THANK YOU FOR FOR DOING THAT. BUT IT WILL BE HAPPENING SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF OTHER LOCATIONS. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT. BECAUSE THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. OK. I HAVE A PRESENTATION. YES. IF WE'RE DONE.

[8. Executive Director’s and Legislative Reports]

[A. Report from Partner Agencies - Florida's Turnpike Enterprise - Design Project Update for the Widening of Sawgrass Expressway From South of Sunrise Boulevard to North of Commercial Boulevard]

ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. SO A PART OF OUR UPDATE TODAY WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. LOOK AT OUR RECOMMENDED PD AND E IMPROVEMENTS DISCUSS OUR [INDUBIBLE] INTERCHANGE PARTNERSHIP AND THEN OUR DESIGN PRODUCTION SCHEDULE SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PROJECT ABOUT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT TRANSPORTATION PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. SO HERE WE'RE SHOWING A FLOW

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SO WE'LL GO FROM PLANNING TO CONSTRUCTION. OUR PLANNING CAN TAKE YEARS AND THAT MEANS LOOKING AT FEASIBILITY STUDIES AND BASICALLY DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT A PROJECT IS WARRANTED OR NOT. ONCE THE DEPARTMENT AGREES THAT YES THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE WANT TO DO WE THEN GO INTO OUR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT STUDY OR WHAT WE WHAT IS KNOWN AS A PD AND E STUDY WHERE THEN WE WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANT TEAM OUR IN-HOUSE DESIGN TEAM AND BASICALLY LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT IS THE BEST SOLUTION TO MEET THE PROBLEM OR THE PURPOSE THAT WE NEED TO DESIGN THE PROJECT FOR. THAT INVOLVES PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS AND THEN AS WELL AS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND AT THE END THE PUBLIC HEARING WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT THE DEPARTMENT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC HEARING. THEN WE MOVE INTO DESIGN WHICH INVOLVES A LOT OF DIFFERENT STEPS AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH DESIGN. WE THEN DETERMINE ARE THERE ANY RIGHT OF WAY ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED TO TAKE OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY THAT THE TURNPIKE OWNS AND IF THAT IS SO THAT WE NEED ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY THEN WE GO THROUGH OUR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION PROCESS WHICH CAN ACTUALLY TAKE UP TO 24 MONTHS FOLLOWING ALL OF THAT WE THEN COMPLETE OUR FINAL DESIGN. WE THEN PUT OUR FINAL PLANS TOGETHER. WE WE AWARD THE WE LET THE PROJECT MEANING THAT WE PUT IT OUT TO BID. WE THEN AWARD THE PROJECT AND THEN CONSTRUCTION BEGINS AND THAT CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF SIX SIX MONTHS IT COULD TAKE A COUPLE OF YEARS SEVERAL YEARS DEPENDING UPON THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROJECT. FOR THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY WIDENING PROJECT. WE HAVE COMPLETED THE PD&E ANY STUDY AND CURRENTLY AS SHOWN IN THE RED BOX WE ARE IN THE DESIGN PHASE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO HERE WE'RE ACTUALLY SHOWING YOU THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT. AGAIN AS I STATED BEFORE WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR PD&E STUDY. WE HAD OUR PUBLIC HEARING IN JANUARY OF 17 AND OUR DOCUMENT WAS ACTUALLY SIGNED IN JULY OF 2017 WHICH IS A STATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT CALLED A SEIR WHERE WE BASICALLY ARE PUBLICLY DOCUMENTING WHAT WE INTEND TO BUILD AS A RESULT OF GOING THROUGH OUR PD&E PROCESS FOR THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY. IT WAS ONE PD&E DOCUMENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOR THE ENTIRE AREA THAT YOU'VE SEEN SHOWN IN THREE DIFFERENT COLORS WE'RE SHOWING THREE DIFFERENT COLORS BECAUSE THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO AT THE TOP GOING WEST GOING SOUTH KIND OF IN THE PINK WE ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNING THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. IT IS ONGOING AND IT'S FROM NORTH OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD TO U.S. 441 OR STATE ROAD 7. THAT PROJECT IS SLATED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN CALENDAR YEAR FEBRUARY OF 20 22. SO OUR FISCAL YEAR 2023 SO DESIGN IS CURRENTLY GOING ON. WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SEEING OUR PHASE 2 PLANS AROUND THAT MAY JUNE OF THIS YEAR AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS THE DESIGN IS CONCERNED. THE LIGHT ORANGE PROJECT IS ALSO THE DESIGN IS GOING ON AS IT'S ONGOING. AND THAT'S FROM NORTH OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD TO NORTH OF ATLANTIC BOULEVARD. I WANT TO NOTE HERE THAT PREVIOUSLY THIS WAS ACTUALLY A PART OF THE BLUE PORTION TO THE SOUTH IN AN EFFORT TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT BASED UPON SOME THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON WITH WHAT THE SOUTHERN PART OF SAWGRASS WHICH WE WILL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT LATER. WE DETERMINED THAT WE SHOULD PEEL OFF THE THE NORTH PART OF THAT THAT ORANGE PART THERE THAT TWO ABOUT TWO MILES AND EFFORTS OF GETTING THE PROJECT GOING AS FAR AS WIDENING THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED AND AS A RESULT OF THAT WE ARE NOW WORKING ON THAT AND PRIMARILY AROUND THE ATLANTIC BOULEVARD AREA THE BLUE PART THAT IS IN THE THE SOUTH. WE ACTUALLY HAVE RESTARTED THE DESIGN AND THAT BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR. SO THAT DESIGN WAS ACTUALLY ON HOLD AND I'LL KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT HERE SHORTLY AND THAT'S FROM SOUTH OF SUNRISE BOULEVARD TO NORTH OF COMMERCIAL BOULEVARD. AND AGAIN IF YOU NEED ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THOSE PROJECTS THE FPID NUMBERS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THAT HELPS US TO GET YOU THE RIGHT INFORMATION ABOUT THE RIGHT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. SO JUST PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF PROJECT HISTORY. NOT SURE WHO'S BEEN HERE. I'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING FOR THE TURNPIKE FOR ABOUT A YEAR. SO JUST IN CASE THOSE THAT MAY NOT KNOW THE HISTORY. SO AFTER THE PD&E WAS COMPLETED OUR DESIGN TEAM BEGAN WORKING ON DESIGNING THE WIDENING OF THE SAWGRASS EXPRESSWAY AS WE WERE GOING

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ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT IS FROM A TURNPIKE STANDPOINT AND THE TURNPIKE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN OUR DISTRICTS THE OTHER DISTRICTS WITHIN THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THE TURNPIKE. OUR REVENUE IS IS FROM THE TOLLS. AND SO WE CHOOSE NOT TO USE FEDERAL FUNDING. KUDOS TO THE STAFF HERE I USED TO BE A CONTRACTOR FOR THE MTA AND I'VE SAT THROUGH MANY REVIEWS AND I'VE NEVER HEARD A REPORT LIKE THAT WAS GIVEN TODAY. WHEN YOU USE FEDERAL MONEY YOU HAVE TO PLAY BY THEIR RULES. RIGHT. SO IF THEY TELL YOU TO HOP ON ONE FOOT YOU HOP ON THAT FOOT AND IF YOU HAVE TO SWITCH TO THE OTHER YOU DO THAT AS WELL AND YOU JUGGLE BALLS AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE USING THEIR THEIR MONEY. AND SO AS A RESULT THE TURNPIKE. WE WE OUR REVENUE STREAM AGAIN IS FROM THE TOLLS. AND SO WE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO THE LOCALS THAT IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE AT PAT SOLANO THAT IT CANNOT INVOLVE FEDERAL FUNDING. WE ALSO COMMUNICATED AS FAR AS IF WE AGREE TO MAKE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PD&E STUDY THAT WOULD REQUIRE A RE-EVALUATION SO IF WE CHANGE ANYTHING FROM WHAT WE TOLD THE PUBLIC THIS IS WHAT WE INTEND TO CONSTRUCT. NOW WE CHANGE OUR MIND. WE THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO A RE-EVALUATION AND COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC AGAIN GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS A PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO BUILD THOSE ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SYSTEMS INTERCHANGE JUSTIFICATION REPORT. SO AS A RESULT OF MOVING FORWARD AND DISCUSSING THIS PARTNERSHIP AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT IS A LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT HAS TO BE EXECUTED. AND SO THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WITH OUR LOCAL LOCAL PARTNERS BE IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SUNRISE AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS BASICALLY HAVE BEEN FOR A FULL INTERCHANGE AT PAT SOLANO LOOKING AT KIND OF BUILDING WITH THE WIDENING OR A PHASED CONSTRUCTION APPROACH APPROACH BASED UPON WHEN FUNDING COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE. AND AGAIN THE LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT HAS TO BE EXECUTED BY MAY 31ST OF 2019. SO WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW MEETINGS WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETINGS. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF LOT OF MOVEMENT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE DID RECEIVE A NOTICE OF INTENT. ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAD ASKED FROM THE LOCALS IN ORDER FOR THE TURNPIKE TO STAY ON SCHEDULE WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION IN FISCAL YEAR 2023. WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING WITH MY CONSULTANT FOR THE FINAL FOR THE FINAL DESIGN THE FULL DESIGN OF OUR SOUTH PORTION THAT PORTION THAT WE SHOWED IN BLUE. AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTING AND WE HAD GIVEN A CHARGE TO THE LOCALS. ORIGINALLY IT WAS TO HAVE THE LOCAL FUNDING THE THE THE LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT EXECUTED BY THE END OF DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WE HAD SINCE THEN HAVE EXTENDED THAT AND WE ASKED FOR JUST A LETTER OF INTENT BY MARCH 31ST. I AM PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY AND IT WAS ON THE TWENTY NINTH I WANT TO SAY 28 OR 29TH FOR BROWARD COUNTY STATING THE INTENT WAS TO PROVIDE LOCAL CONTRIBUTION FOR FULL INTERCHANGE AT PAT SOLANO AND THAT THE LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT WOULD BE EXECUTED BY MAY 31ST OF 2019 THE TURNPIKE MANAGEMENT STAFF SO MY BOSS WAS AT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETING ON MARCH 28 AND ADVISED THE COUNTY THAT ALTHOUGH THE LETTER IS SENT IT DOES NOT LOCK THE COUNTY IN AS FAR AS COVERING THE FULL COST UNTIL THAT LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT IS EXECUTED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND SO THIS IS THE CURRENT DESIGN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR FOR THE FULL INTERCHANGE AT PAT'S SOLANO AND THE TOTAL COST FOR DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION IS 56 MILLION AND THAT WOULD BE A 50 50 SPLIT MEANING THE TURNPIKE WOULD COVER 50 PERCENT AND THEN THE LOCALS WOULD COVER

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THANK YOU. YES SIR. FOR DOING THIS. I INFORMED MY CITY MANAGER THIS REPORT WAS COMING UP AND HE SENT OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER HERE TO MAKE SURE TO GET A FULL REPORT ON IT. WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW ANYTIME YOU NEED TO MEET WITH MYSELF OR OUR CITY STAFF WE'RE GOING TO BE AVAILABLE ANY TIME. THANK YOU TO THIS COUNTY COMMISSION AGAIN FOR MOVING THIS FORWARD AND COOPERATING. JUST AN EXAMPLE.

IN A YEAR AND A HALF I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TO TAKE THIS OUT OF THE PLANS AND DELETE IT AND YOU'RE ALL GOING TO BE LIKE I HAD THREE HEADS WONDERING WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THIS IS WHY WE STRONGLY ARE SITTING STRONGLY FELT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR PAST TO LEARN THAT THAT HAD A FULL INTERCHANGE DOING WHERE WE FELT WE CAN GET THAT MESSAGE ACROSS WAS TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE TO TAKE THIS OUT OF PLANS AND YOU SUPPORTED ME AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. IT CAME BACK AND WE'RE FINALLY GETTING WHAT WE FEEL IS NEEDED. I UNDERSTAND EACH CITY IS DIFFERENT. I MENTIONED BEFORE. I MEAN EVEN GOING TO DEERFIELD YOU'RE FARTHEST AWAY FROM ME. I MET WITH THE STAFF ON YOUR 10TH STREET PROJECT. THEY ASKED TO MEET WITH ME I MET WITH WITH THEM AT MY CITY. EVEN THOUGH IT'S FAR AWAY BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WHEN I WALK IN THE DOOR IT'S A COUNTY HAT REGIONAL HAT NOT A CITY HAT ANYMORE. SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOUR PROJECTS. ANY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN MY CITY THAT YOU

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AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING HERE REGIONALLY IN MY OPINION. SO MOVING FORWARD ON THIS THAT POLICY NEEDS TO CHANGE ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO CONNECT IT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER BELVEDERE. HI.

HELLO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR OTHER COMMENTS. BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT UNCLEAR AT THE END. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME IT IS SO CLOSE TO AND I KNOW I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE BUT AT THE SAME TIME. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE. THIS WAY. NO ONE MORE BUT THE ACTUAL WHERE WHERE THE SEGMENT THE WHOLE TURNPIKE THE WHOLE THING. THE WHOLE THING. OK. YES.

YEAH. I JUST WOULD LIKE COME BACK ONE RIGHT HERE. NO. THE PICTURE ITSELF WITH THE PURPLE. NEXT SLIDE. THE MASTER. OK. GOT THAT ONE. OK. YES MA'AM. OK. JUST EXPLAIN THE END. YOU'RE PUTTING END PROJECT RIGHT THERE. OH THAT WOULD JUST BE NOT TO MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING AFTER THIS. SO THIS IS FOR THE THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SO FAR AND AS FAR AS WHAT'S DESIGN WHAT'S IN DESIGN AND WHAT'S GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE WHEN YOU'RE WHEN THAT IS WHY IT'S GONNA BE THE TO THE EXISTING THAT WOULD BE. ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT IN COCONUT CREEK OR AT LEAST OUR AREA AND SOMETHING I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR LOOKING AT. YES MA'AM.

THERE WAS ANOTHER PE&E STUDY THAT'S ONGOING RIGHT NOW THAT PICKS UP WHERE THIS

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OKAY THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOLNESS AND THEN COMMISSIONER FURR. THANK YOU. YES SIR.

GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU SIR. SEEMS AS THOUGH YOU JUST GOT THERE. YOU SAID ONE YEAR. YES SIR. VERY POLISHED, VERY WELL DONE. THE STUDY THAT YOU DID DIDN'T FIND A NEED FOR A FULL EXCHANGE AT PAT SOLANO. CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

YES SIR. AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO FUND IT IF WE WANT IT.

IT'S BASED UPON. SO WE DO TRAFFIC. WE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC WE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS AND SO BASED UPON FROM A TRAFFIC PROJECTION STANDPOINT. AND IF I'M CORRECT THE COUNTY DID A REPORT AS WELL AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC DEMANDS DO NOT WARRANT. I WON'T SAY SO FOR THE TURNPIKE. WE HAVE BOND HOLDERS RIGHT. SO WE HAVE TO GIVE JUSTIFICATION FROM A BENEFIT COST STANDPOINT THAT WOULD WARRANT SPENDING FUNDS FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT AND BASED UPON THAT BENEFIT WHAT WE WOULD COSTS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT TO PAYING IT 100 PERCENT. THE BENEFIT AS FAR AS THE REVENUE THAT WOULD COME FROM IT. IT DID NOT MEET OUR CRITERIA IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT THE FULL INTERCHANGE AND THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS FROM A PARTNERSHIP STANDPOINT THAT WITH THE LOCALS THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE LOCAL PARTICIPATION. SO PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO COMMITMENT FROM THE TURNPIKE TO NOT CONTRIBUTE ANY FUNDS AT ALL. AND AS THOSE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUED ON FROM OCTOBER 2017 THE TURNPIKE THEN SAID OK WE'RE HEARING THE NEED WE WILL AGREE TO PAY 50 PERCENT. SO WE WENT FROM ZERO TO 50 PERCENT. AND SO WE'VE MADE THAT COMMITMENT TO PAY THE 50 PERCENT BECAUSE OF THE THE NEED REGIONALLY AND BEING A REGIONAL PARTNER. AND THAT 50 PERCENT IS OF APPROXIMATELY 56 MILLION DOLLARS. YES SIR AND THAT WOULD BE TO COVER DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION. YES SIR.

LET ME ASK YOU WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT WILL BE GENERATED FROM THESE IN THESE EXPRESS LANES. LIKE YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER RIGHT NOW. I CAN'T. I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOME PROJECTIONS SOMEWHERE. YES SIR. VICTORIA WILLIAMS THE TURNPIKE LIAISON. THERE ARE SOME FINANCIAL RECORDS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE. AND I'D CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO BRING BACK TO GREG AND THE BOARD A LINK TO ALL OF THE INCOME CURRENTLY BEING EXPERIENCED AND SOME OF THOSE PROJECTIONS WE CAN PULL OUT FROM THE ANALYSIS FROM THE GROUP THAT THE TEAM THAT DOES THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY OKAY. AND WE'LL PROVIDE IT TO YOU SIR. LET ME ALSO ADD MY SUPPORT TO MAYOR BILL GANZ SUGGESTION THAT WE ALLOW FOR THOSE TRUCKS TO PAY SOME OF THAT TOLL SO IT'S NOT JUST TAXING OUR LOCAL FOLKS. AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT BUT YOU GUYS ALREADY KNOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT. OKAY. EVEN WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO USE IT BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE THIS IDEA THAT WE NEED TO GO FASTER SO THAT WILL TRAP QUITE A BIT MORE MONEY I BELIEVE. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT 50 PERCENT IN BUT LET ME ALSO LET MY COLLEAGUES HERE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL AGREEMENT TO THE COUNTY DOESN'T AT LEAST NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. NOT IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAVE BEEN HAVING AND THE MEETINGS THAT I'VE BEEN IN TO FUND THIS ADDITIONAL 28 MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY COMES OUT OF THE COUNTY FUND AND THE 28 MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH SUNRISE AND THEIR CITY MANAGERS PRESENTATION TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION THEY WERE WILLING TO OFFER 2 MILLION OUT OF THE PENNY SURTAX. THAT'S THE COLLECTIVE FUNDS FROM THE GROUP THE

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SO WE WE HAVE WE HAVE WORK TO DO IN ORDER TO GET TO SOME RESOLUTION. IN MY MIND FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. COMMISSIONER FURR AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CALETKA.

CHAIRMAN BLATT. I APOLOGIZE. BUT JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLNESS COMMENT WAS IN REFERENCE TO ABOUT THE TRUCKS. SIR IF I NEED TO CLARIFY SO MY NOTES ARE CORRECT ABOUT YOUR COMMENT BEING THE TRUCKS IN THE EXPRESS LANE OR THE NO TRUCKS INTERCHANGE. EXPRESS LANE. AM I CORRECT WITH THAT ASSUMPTION.

THE EXPRESS LANES.

USING EXPRESS LANES WHERE TRUCKS STATEWIDE ARE PROHIBITED FROM ENTERING OR USING THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR INHERENT LACK OF SPEED ABILITY TO STAY UP WITH FLOW. HOWEVER RECENT LEGISLATION QUICKLY TO BRING UP IS THAT THE THERE ARE SOME EXPRESS LANE RULES ABOUT CHARGING ADDITIONAL TOLLS. IF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS ADEQUATE THERE WILL BE NO UP CHARGE. SO I DID NEED TO BRING THAT UP ABOUT THE FACT THAT LAST YEAR OUR FLORIDA LEGISLATURE MADE SOME NEW LAWS TO RECOGNIZE THAT IF ALL THE LANES ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY WE SHOULD NOT BE CHARGING AN ADDITIONAL TOLL FOR THOSE EXPRESS LANES SO THAT THAT PARAMETER AND STATUE I BELIEVE WE HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD.

BUT I WILL AGAIN CERTAINLY BRING THAT TO THE MPO.

NEED TO REACT A LITTLE QUICKER.  I COULDN'T HEAR IT. THANK YOU. THE THE ISSUE WITH THE 8TH STREET NO TRUCK.

CAN YOU TELL US THE REASON IN 1 AND 2 HOW ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT. THE BASICALLY 8TH STREET WAS WAS CURRENTLY NOT AN INTERCHANGE. WE LOOKED AT PLACING THAT END TO BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OFF OF SUNRISE AND HELP DISTRIBUTE ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUSINESS AREA THAT'S IN THERE. THAT CONNECTION CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO THE EXPRESS LANES SO NOT ALLOWING TRUCKS ON THE EXPRESS

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WILL THAT INITIAL TOLL BE INCREASED AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT. SO THE EXPRESS LANES WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE WIDENING PROJECT AND AT A LATER TIME. WE WOULD THEN DETERMINE WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED. AND AS WELL AS INFORMING HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE IMPLEMENTED HOW DO. I GET THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NOT THE EXPRESS LANES I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER LANES. WELL WHAT THE GENERAL. SO THE REGULAR TOLL LANES WILL THOSE BE INCREASED AS A RESULT. OH NO THAT'S NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. I'M NOT AWARE I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. THANK YOU. YES THERE IS A STATUTE THAT MANDATES WHEN THE TURNPIKE REVIEWS THE PRICING STATEWIDE ON ALL OF THE TURNPIKE FACILITIES. SO IT WOULD NOT BE RELATING DIRECTLY TO THAT OTHER THAN AS A AS A MANDATE BY THE STATUES WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FOR REPRICING FOR CONSUMER PRICE INDEX ETC.. OK BUT BUT THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WILL NOT IMPACT THAT TOLL. NO SIR WE'RE NOT GIVEN ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REPRICE THOSE EXCEPT BY THAT STATUE. OK. WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THAT THOUGH. SO ONCE THE EXPRESS LANES ARE ARE BUILT AND IMPLEMENTED AND THEY'RE RUNNING SO AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MATCH FROM THE AS YOU CALL IT THE LOCALS WHO SHARES IN THAT DO WE GET THAT MONEY BACK. THERE IS A STATUE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ZONE THAT INCLUDES PALM BEACH BROWARD AND MIAMI-DADE COUNTIES THOSE THREE COUNTIES ARE USED IN A CALCULATION FOR TOLL REVENUE SHARING AND THAT IS A SPECIFIC STATUTE THAT DEALS WITH THE ZONE OF THOSE THREE ENTITIES. BUT IS IT IN ANY

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SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REPAVING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST COLLECTING THE TOLL. AND AND AND AND PAYING TOWARDS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS. SO I'M JUST WONDERING AT WHAT POINT CAN THE LOCALS START TO SEE A RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT IF AT ALL. I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BRING YOU SOME MORE DETAILS RATHER THAN SPEAKING GENERICALLY. I THINK IT'D BE VERY APPROPRIATE TO WORK WITH GREG ON PROVIDING THAT. YEAH WELL WE CAN WORK ON THIS WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DISTRICT FLORIDA. YEAH I WANT TO REPEAT THAT I'M NEW SO IT MAY BE NAIVE. I'LL LET YOU KNOW. YEAH BUT I MEAN WE JUST. MAYOR WE ACTUALLY WE ASKED FOR THE REVENUE GENERATION FROM THE FROM THE MANAGE LANES IN BROWARD NON TURNPIKE AND THE DISTRICT IS COMMITTED THAT ONCE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING FULLY OPERATIONAL THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE US WITH THAT DATA. I MEAN WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT YET. THEY JUST OPENED THE MANAGE LANES.

REALISTICALLY THE 595 YOU CAN'T REALLY INCLUDE BECAUSE THAT'S GOING BACK TO THE PRIVATE FIRM THAT ACTUALLY BUILT THAT ROAD AS PART OF THE P3. BUT THE MANAGED LANES ON I 75 AND THE MANAGED LANES ON I 95 SOUTH OF THE NEW RIVER.

THOSE WE SHOULD START HAVING REVENUE ESTIMATES RELATIVELY SOON. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT THE REVENUES ARE AND WHAT THE EXPENSES ARE AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN GET TO WHERE THAT MONEY MIGHT. WELL WE'RE DIGGING. OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CALETKA COUNCIL MEMBER FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER GOOD SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. GOOD. SO HERE COMES A HISTORY LESSON. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE ACTUAL ANSWER WHAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR WAS IS SUNRISE AND THE COUNTY GOING TO GET A CHECK FROM THE TURNPIKE FOR THEIR 26 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT HE WAS ASKING. THE ANSWER IS NO THEY ARE NOT. BECAUSE IN THE STATE STATUTE ITSELF IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE TURNPIKE ENTERPRISE ONCE THEY MEET THEIR REQUIREMENT IS THEN THE REST OF THE REVENUE IS RETURNED IN THE AREA. THEY WILL NEVER SEE A PENNY BACK.

IT'S AN INVESTMENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE. SO THAT'S THE ANSWER YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THE STATE STATUTE BECAUSE THAT'S THE FACT. BUT 50 PERCENT IS THE ACTUAL POLICY THAT THEY HAVE. AND I KNOW AT ONE POINT ONE OF THE INTERCHANGES THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS ON STERLING AND THE TURNPIKE AND THE SEMINOLE

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THAT'S IT. OK. THIS IS IT. I BELIEVE SO YES. NO NO. THIS IS ACTUALLY SHOWING THE ACTUAL EXPRESS LANE ENTRANCE AND AN EXIT OUT SO IT WOULDN'T BE RAMPS SO IT OPENS AS FAR AS LIKE YOU'D HAVE THE GENERAL PURPOSE TOLL ME. SO GENERAL TOLLING LANES AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THE TWO EXPRESS LANES AND WHERE THE ARROWS ARE SHOWN IT WOULD THEN BE JUST

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WHAT IS THE TOTAL PROJECTED COST FOR PROJECT 155. SO WITHOUT THE IT'S AROUND 470 MILLION THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FULL INTERCHANGE. THEN YOU WOULD THEN WELL END IT WOULD BE THE 56 PLUS THEN THE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY COST WHICH WE STILL ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY COSTS WOULD BE. IS THAT CORRECT. 155 THE SOUTHERN PORTION. THE 155 THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS ABOUT 228  MILLION.

OK. IF YOU EVER IF YOU LOOK AT THE FULL 18 MILES. NO I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT PROJECT.

WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT 155 RIGHT NOW. YEAH IT'S LIKE 228 PLUS THE 56 FOR THE PAT SOLANO. PLUS THE 56 MILLION FOR THE PAT SOLANO. WHAT WAS THE FIRST NUMBER 228 MILLION PLUS THE 56. NOT INCLUDING THE PAT SOLANO. YEAH NOT INCLUDING THE PAT SOLANO. COMMISSIONER SOFIELD. AS YOU ALL HEARD I HAVEN'T BEEN UP HERE JUST SAYING WE NEED WE NEED WE NEED CITY OF SUNRISE HAS STEPPED UP WITH TWO MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S ALMOST 5 PERCENT OF THIS PAT SOLANO PROJECT. OK SO I THINK WE'VE DONE PRETTY WELL. MR. CALETKA YOU'RE CORRECT. WE TRIED TO GET SOME SHARING OF THAT TOLLS. YOU SAID NO. OK WE'LL DO IT ANYWAY. WE FEEL IT'S

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DOESN'T MATTER WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. WE'RE COMMITTED. WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THAT MONEY WHETHER IT'S GENERALS GENERAL DOLLARS OR SALES TAX DOLLARS. WE HAVE TO WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTING THIS DOLLARS SO WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS SO TO SPEAK AND WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT. BUT 8TH STREET 25 THOUSAND PEOPLE A DAY COMING GOING IN THAT PARK THAT  PARK THERE WHICH IS WHY 8TH STREET IS NEEDED. TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT. THEY CAN COME IN 136 SUNRISE BOULEVARD. THE WORKERS THERE NEED A QUICK QUICKER IN AND OUT OF THAT PARK TO GO BACK HOME TO DAVIE TO WHEREVER THEY LIVE. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY 8TH STREET WAS THROWN IN THERE. REAL QUICK I MENTIONED I MET WITH THE 10 STREET PROJECT NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET IN AND DEERFIELD AND COCONUT CREEK YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN THIS FULL INTERCHANGE AT THE TURNPIKE AND 10TH STREET WAS NOT INCLUDED WITH WHAT I WAS WHAT WAS SHOWN.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT. KEEP THAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET POCKET WHEN IT COMES UP LATER. ALL RIGHT BECAUSE WE COULD BE DEALING WITH THAT IN 20 YEARS.

NOT TODAY NOT TODAY. THANK YOU. FOR ANOTHER DAY. STAY TUNED. MAYOR ZIADE. THANK YOU. SO I TOO AM EXTREMELY NEW HERE. I UNDERSTAND ALL THE BUDGETING AND EVERYTHING BUT I'M ALSO NOW SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT THAT WOULD COMMUTE DOWNTOWN FORT LAUDERDALE AND DOWNTOWN MIAMI AND WEST MIAMI VERY REGULARLY. I USE THESE LANES ALL THE TIME AND I KNOW THAT MY EMPLOYERS AS WELL AS OTHER EMPLOYERS REIMBURSE FOR SOME OF THESE TOLLS SO I AM TOTALLY FOR IT. I JUST DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE SHOULDN'T BE. ASIDE FROM THE COST FACTOR WHICH IS APPARENT BUT FROM A COMMUTER STANDPOINT I MEAN IT'S IT'S ALMOST A NO BRAINER. YOU KNOW IT'S SITTING SITTING IN TRAFFIC AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY I WOULD GO DOWN TO MIAMI. IT WAS CRAZY AND I WOULD GLADLY PAY THAT AMOUNT TO GET HOME THAT I CAN SPEND TIME WITH MY FAMILY OR GET TO AN APPOINTMENT THAT I WOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S JUST I JUST I YOU KNOW I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF ARE IN THEIR BUBBLE HERE IN BROWARD COUNTY BUT TRAVELING YOU KNOW BOTH COUNTIES ON A REGULAR BASIS THEY JUST DON'T SEE WHAT IT IS TO HAVE TO SCHLEP DOWN AT THE CRACK OF DAWN TO GET TO MIAMI FOR YOU KNOW A HEARING OR WHATEVER THE CASE WAS IN MY CASE IN PARTICULAR. YOU KNOW THAT OTHERWISE YOU COULDN'T AND THOSE EXPRESS LANES ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND ARE UTILIZED SO MUCH MORE THAN THE REGULAR YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND FAMILIES YOU KNOW FAMILIES GOING TO AND FROM DADE COUNTY AREN'T ALWAYS ON A TIME RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO BE THERE ON A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME SO AS AS AN EMPLOYEE OF SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN ANOTHER COUNTY I FIND THEM VERY VERY VALUABLE. THANK YOU. AND NO MORE COMMENTS FROM US. THANK YOU. VERY NICE PRESENTATION. HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYBODY. THANK YOU SIR. GENERAL COUNSEL. WELL ACTUALLY NO. MONTHLY FEDERAL STATE LEGISLATURE. GREG DIDN'T DO THAT. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. GENERAL COUNSEL. MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD

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YOUR VOTE IS ALWAYS REGISTERED AND ALWAYS IS RECORDED SO PLEASE VOTE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE COUNTED RIGHT NOW SOUTHWEST RANCHES IN PEMBROKE PARK AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE. WE ONLY HAVE 27 THOSE THOSE WOULD BE DROP OFF FROM THE COUNT NUMBER. BUT PLEASE REMEMBER TO ALWAYS VOTE. I HAVE NOTHING FURTHER TILL LATER I'LL BE TALKING PLENTY. THANK YOU MR. GIES. AS PETER COMES UP TO DO THE

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THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT PORTION OF THE PIE TO DO ON STATE HIGHWAY PROJECTS.

THERE IS ALSO SOME MONEY THERE TO DO OFF STATE SYSTEM AND MPO DOLLARS CAN ALSO GO TOWARDS SOME OF THOSE HIGHWAY PROJECTS. TRANSIT IS ALSO ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE MIXTURE AREAS WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME OF THOSE THAT STATE FUNDING THE B.C.T. TRANSIT FORMULA GRANTS FOR EXAMPLE SIT IN HERE AS WELL AND WE CAN ALSO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH SOME MPO DOLLARS. SO THOSE TWO PROGRAMS HAVE LISTS OF PROJECTS TIED TO THEM. NOW THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS AND SAFETY IS A PROGRAM THAT WE AS STAFF FELT WAS VERY IMPORTANT THIS TIME AROUND GIVEN THE ADVENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AS WELL AS THE IMPORTANCE OF SAFETY ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE NEW ADOPTED FEDERAL PERFORMANCE MEASURES WHICH HAVE SET A TARGET OF ZERO FOR ALL CRASHES IN BROWARD SERIOUS AND FATAL INJURIES. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SETTING ASIDE FUNDING TO ADDRESS THOSE PARTICULAR ELEMENTS OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE TO PUT IN SMART SIGNALS AND DEVELOP SMART CITIES THE COMPLETE STREETS AND LOCALIZED INITIATIVES PROGRAM IS THE DISCRETIONARY PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO OUR PARTNER AGENCIES ON A MUNICIPAL BASIS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT KEEPS GOING. WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMPLETE STREETS MASTERPLAN WHICH WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THAT HAS A LIST OF REGIONAL BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PROJECTS THAT HELP TO COMPLEMENT A LOT OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT YOU ALL ARE SEEKING AS PARTNER AGENCIES THROUGH THE CSLIP PROGRAM. THAT OTHER PROGRAM THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN NEEDS BOTH AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THROUGH CSLIP BUT ALSO THROUGH THE COMPLETE STREETS MASTERPLAN THOSE PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED THROUGH A PROCESS WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR MEMBER AGENCIES AND THEN APPLYING A REGIONAL PRIORITIZATION PROCESS TO THOSE PROJECTS. SO AGAIN THOSE TWO PROGRAMS ARE COMPLEMENTARY AND THAT ONE FUNDS MORE LOCAL PRIORITIES. THE OTHER ONE FUNDS MORE REGIONAL PRIORITIES. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MPO FUNDING GOING TO BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS. LASTLY THE MOBILITY HUB PROGRAM WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INCLUDED AS PART OF THE COMPLETE STREETS AND LOCALIZED INITIATIVES PROGRAM BUT WE WERE FINDING THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE WERE APPLYING FOR THE MOBILITY HUB PROJECTS THROUGH CSLIP. SO WE HAVE CHOSEN TO BREAK BREAK THAT OUT THIS TIME AROUND AND PROVIDE A DIFFERENT AVENUE OF FUNDING TO COMPLEMENT AGAIN CLSIP BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CRITERIA THAT'S DESIGNED TO REALLY RANK THOSE MOBILITY HUBS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT TRANSIT DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMING TO THE TABLE WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY CITIES WHO ARE COMING TO THE TABLE AND WILLING TO PARTNER WITH US ON THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS. THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN CSLIP IN THAT REGARD AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE SETTING UP A SEPARATE PROGRAM TO ENCOURAGE THOSE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS IN THE REGION. SO THAT'S A QUICK BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE SIX FUNDING PROGRAMS AND HOW WE WERE AND HOW WE ULTIMATELY THEN HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE THE ALLOCATION OF THOSE FIVE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS OF MPO ATTRIBUTABLE FUNDS GO. SO WE STARTED WITH THREE SCENARIOS. THE FIRST ONE WAS OUR BASELINE AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE HERE AT THE BOARD ENGAGEMENT FORUM ON JANUARY 10TH

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SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THE AMOUNT OF THE MONEY THAT WE ASSIGNED TO THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM AND ACTUALLY REALLOCATED THAT TO THOSE TWO PROGRAMS IN RESPONSE TO THAT REQUEST. AGAIN THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS EXPRESSED BY THE TAC AND CAC AND WE WANTED TO EXPLORE THAT AVENUE AND SEE WHAT TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THAT WOULD FUND THEM SO HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THE MPO ATTRIBUTABLE FUNDS BY SCENARIO. I THINK ONE THING TO MENTION HERE IS IN THE FIRST HIGHWAY CATEGORY YOU WILL SEE THAT THE GREEN BAR FOR SCENARIO 3 DOES NOT EXIST. AS I MENTIONED THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK AND REALLOCATED TO THE COMPLETE STREETS MASTERPLAN AND COMPLETE STREETS AND LOCALIZED INITIATIVES PROGRAM. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE AN OVER PREPONDERANCE OF FUNDING OF MPO ATTRIBUTABLE DOLLARS IN THOSE TWO AREAS. BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OR AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THE MPO ATTRIBUTABLE DOLLARS WERE APPLIED ACROSS EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. SO NOW I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS AND TALK ABOUT THE ENTIRE PIE FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I THINK YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE MPO ATTRIBUTABLE FUNDING AND HOW IT GETS APPLIED. BUT THEN WHAT DOES THAT HAVE. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE LARGER LIST OF PROJECTS IN THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND OUR DRAFT COST FEASIBLE PLAN. SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE 8.3 BILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE PICTURE ACROSS THE THREE SCENARIOS STARTING WITH OUR BASELINE YOU CAN SEE IN THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM WE CAN FUND OUR STRATEGIC INTERMODAL SYSTEM. THAT'S PART OF THAT BLUE PIE THAT I MENTIONED THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED PLUS 42 PROJECTS YOU CAN IN TRANSIT FUND EIGHT PROJECTS PLUS WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOCATED FOR THE BCT TRANSIT FORMULA GRANTS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM MANAGEMENT AND SAFETY AS I MENTIONED. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE UNCLEAR AT THE MOMENT WE CAN'T NECESSARILY QUANTIFY HOW MANY PROJECTS THOSE ARE GOING TO FUND BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO DO ONGOING ROADWAY SAFETY AUDITS TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS. SO THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR US TO QUANTIFY.

HOWEVER IN THE COMPLETE STREETS AND LOCALIZED INITIATIVES PROGRAM OVER THE LIFE OF THE PLAN WE FIGURED AT A BASE OF TWO MILLION DOLLARS A PROJECT WHICH IS THE THRESHOLD RIGHT NOW WE COULD FUND ADA PROJECTS AND WITH A COMPLETE STREETS MASTERPLAN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND 14 PERCENT OF THE AVAILABLE NEEDS IN THE COMPLETE STREETS MASTER PLAN. UNDER THIS SCENARIO AGAIN MOBILITY HUBS BECAUSE THAT PROGRAM IS STILL BEING ESTABLISHED IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BREAK OUT FROM CSLIP THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED AS WELL. SO IN THE NEXT SCENARIO SCENARIO TWO COMPLEMENTARY INVESTMENTS WE AS MPO STAFF TRIED TO OPTIMIZE SOME MORE OF THE FUNDING AS I MENTIONED. SO WE KEPT SOME FUNDING IN THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM AS I MENTIONED. SO THE STRATEGIC INTERMODAL SYSTEM PLUS THE 42 PROJECTS REMAIN THE SAME WE USE THAT

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I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY DISCUSSION HOPEFULLY YOU FOUND THIS HELPFUL BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER ORTIS. MAYOR. MAYOR EXCUSE ME. I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN HE WAS MUCH YOUNGER. MAYOR ORTIS. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. I KNOW THE HOUR IS GETTING LATE BUT I NEED TO SAY WHAT I HAVE TO SAY FIRST OF ALL I'M NOT A NEWBIE. IN OFFICE 22 YEARS. I'M AT THIS MPO 16 YEARS. HOPEFULLY THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO VOTE ME IN FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS. SO I'LL BE AROUND [INAUDIBLE]. THAT'S GOOD. BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS. PEMBROKE ROAD I STARTED THAT I STARTED IT WHEN I WAS A STATE PROJECT. I STARTED WHEN I WAS A COUNTY PROJECT. I STARTED GOING BACK TO A STATE PROJECT. I WOULD START AGAIN WHEN WE HAD A DIFFERENT KIND OF INTERCHANGE ON IT AND MIRAMAR DIDN'T WANT THAT INTERCHANGE NOW THEY'RE SORRY. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEIR TRAFFIC IS NOT NOTHING DEGRADING ABOUT MIRAMAR. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THIS NOW WE HAVE THE BRIDGE AND NOW WE NEED WE NEED TO GO TO 27 WITH THE MALL OF AMERICA COMING OUR RESIDENTS NEED THIS NOW. WE HAD A VISIONING BUDGET SESSION LAST NIGHT. MY COMMISSIONERS ARE ON ME TO GET SOME ACTION FOR FUNDING. NOW YOU JUST MENTIONED YOU KNOW AND YOU ALL CAME TO US YESTERDAY WITH A GREAT CONCEPT ABOUT A THE WORST INTERSECTION IN THE WORLD IN THAT YEARS AGO PINES AND FLAMINGO AND I SAW THAT WHEN I WAS IN L.A. ALMOST GOT KILLED CROSSING THE STREET AND THEY SAID WE HAD THE WORST INTERSECTION BUT WE'RE BRINGING A CONCEPT THAT YOU'VE SEEN. AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT TO OUR COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT NEVER NO ONE'S EVER HAD BEFORE BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN PEMBROKE PINES HOPEFULLY ANYWAY. PEMBROKE ROAD GOING OUT WEST SHERIDAN STREET PINES BOULEVARD WHICH I KNOW IS A STATE ROAD BUT IT IS A EVACUATION ROAD AS WELL. WE NEED THOSE. IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET HELP. I WAS LATE COMING HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE MESS THAT'S OUT THERE. WE NEED HELP. I NEED TO BRING BACK TO MY COMMISSION A TIMELINE OF WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS TO GO. I NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO OUR RESIDENTS. 171,000 RESIDENTS NOW I NEED SOME HELP. SO MR. CHAIRMAN I KNOW I'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT EMOTIONAL BUT I NEED HELP SO CAN I GET HELP. YES. YES YOU CAN. WE'RE TAKING UP A COLLECTION RIGHT AFTER THE MEETING. [LAUGHTER] CAN I GET A TIMELINE SO I CAN BRING IT BACK TO MY COMMISSION. SO THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED IN THIS PROCESS. WHEN WILL WE HAVE A DRAFT OF THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE BACKUP FOR SCENARIO 2 YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECTS IN ORDER PRIORITIZED ORDER BY PROGRAM ALONG WITH WHETHER THEY ARE COST FEASIBLE OR NOT GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF ALLOCATION SPECIFICALLY ON PEMBROKE ROAD THOUGH. MAYOR IS THAT THAT PROJECT IS ALREADY PROGRAM FOR FEASIBILITY STUDY IN THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS OUR FIVE YEAR WORK PROGRAM THAT MAKES UP THE FIRST COMMITTED PORTION OF THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN. SO THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THAT TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY WHAT IMPROVEMENT WILL ACTUALLY GET BUILT THERE. THERE IS A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS SO THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. I DON'T KNOW GREG IF YOU. SO FIVE YEARS BUT HOW DO I

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AND ONCE WE THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TODAY WE NEED TO GET THROUGH AND ONCE WE HAVE A PROCESS LAID OUT HOPEFULLY IN THAT PARTICULAR ROADWAY COULD POTENTIALLY GO THAT DIRECTION AS WE DISCUSSED AND SEE IF WE CAN EXPEDITE THE DELIVERY BECAUSE IF IT GOES THROUGH THE FEDERAL PROCESS UNFORTUNATELY AS I BELIEVE THE VICE CHAIR FROM DAVIE WAS POINTING OUT IT'S FIVE YEARS SO WE'RE ALWAYS BUILDING THAT FIFTH YEAR AND IT'LL JUST TAKE LONGER. SO LET ME EXPAND ON THAT AND KIND OF THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY. ALL THE PROJECTS THAT CITY SUBMITTED FOR THE COUNTY SURTAX REALLY ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE IN TWO OR THREE YEARS. CITIES NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT AM I GOING TO DO NEXT. AND IF THAT PROJECT OR ANY PROJECT WASN'T INCLUDED IN YOUR FIRST FLIGHT OF PROJECTS THEN YOU NEED TO START WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH YOUR STAFF AND THE MPO STAFF AND THE COUNTY STAFF TO SUBMIT SUPPLEMENTAL PROJECTS BECAUSE IT'S A 15.6 BILLION DOLLAR SURTAX AND PROBLEM. WELL GOOD SO MAYBE OTHERS ARE NOT. LET ME JUST FINISH MY THOUGHT HERE THAT ONLY A CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT'S GOING TO BE SPENT IN THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO FOR THE NEXT 27.

SO I ENCOURAGE OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE TOO FAR DOWN IN OUR PROGRAM AND WHO WANT TO ACCELERATE THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE SURTAX MONEY TO FRONT AND MOVE THOSE PROJECTS FORWARD FASTER. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER CALETKA FOLLOWED BY MAYOR FURR. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME MR. CHAIR. THERE ISN'T AN ADDITIONAL THING IF YOU IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE ANY FURTHER CITY OF PEMBROKE PINES FUNDS IT'LL MOVE FORWARD ON A FIVE YEAR PROGRAM WHICH IS GUARANTEED BUT THEY WILL ALLOW YOU TO ADVANCE IT A LITTLE IF YOU WANT TO USE ADDITIONAL PEMBROKE PINES FUNDS TO FRONT ENGINEERING AND DESIGN OF IT. WELL WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT. OKAY THEN THAT'S YOUR ANSWER. WELL I CAN'T GET IT. WELL YOU CAN'T GET AN ANSWER THAT IT'S GUARANTEED TO MOVE FASTER UNTIL THIS PROCESS IS APPROVED LATER IN OUR AGENDA. BE GIVEN TO THE MAYOR BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS YOU KNOW IN YOUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS OF THIS I'VE BEEN SOMEWHAT CRITICAL AND I RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T LIKE THAT YOU KNOW IF I THINK IS NOT QUITE HALF PERCENT ACCURATE YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE I DO KNOW. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS. ANY MEMBER THAT WAS LISTENING TO THIS PRESENTATION TODAY GOT A PLANNING MPO 1 0 1 EDUCATION FOR FREE. THIS WAS A STELLAR. I MEAN WE'RE TALKING GRAND SLAM PRESENTATION BY YOU MR. GIES. SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT ONE. [APPLAUSE]. THANK YOU. AND HE DID IT WITH NO NOTES. MAYOR. I'M SORRY. OH  COMMISSIONER FURR. THANKS. REAL QUICK. I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH TWO PARTS OF THIS. THE PART THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SAFETY MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND THE MOBILITY. I THINK THAT KIND OF GETTING A SHORT SHRIFT BE HONEST BECAUSE I HONESTLY THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS AND ON EACH ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS IT SAYS TBD TO BE DETERMINED. SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF WE ARE GONNA BE VOTING AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE. WELL THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING DEFINED VERY WELL. AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING PUT OUT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS. NONE OF US ARE GONNA BE BE VOTING FOR THAT BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO WE'RE LIKE FOR A MOBILITY HUB. THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT RESEARCH DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT BE DOING UNIVERSITY IN BROWARD BOULEVARD AND DOING A WHOLE STUDY THERE LOOKING AT WHERE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE WHERE TRANSIT NEEDS TO BE. ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THESE ARE IMPORTANT PARTS THAT HONESTLY THAT'S WHERE THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. AND WE'RE NOT THINKING THAT WAY. THIS IS WHERE ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S KIND OF IT'S JUST KIND OF PUT TO THE SIDE AND WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T DEDICATED ONE DOLLAR TO THAT IN LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IT'S BEEN ZERO. AND NOW WE HAVE ALL THESE OPTIONS WE HAVE AREN'T ONE OF OUR MAIN THINGS IN THIS COUNTY IS TO CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE DEVELOPMENTS GONNA PLACE WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CAR AND THEY CAN JUST HOP ON A BUS. THE ONLY WAY

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YOU'RE GOOD NOW. OK BUT YOU AND SO I'M SAYING THAT I DON'T THINK ALL OF US ARE IN WE'RE GETTING PUT INTO A POSITION WHERE WE CAN RECOGNIZE THE PRIORITIZATION OF IT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO. BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVING BEING GIVEN QUITE A CLEAR ENOUGH PICTURE ON THOSE TWO PARTS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR ZIADE. AND THEN COMMISSIONER BELVEDERE. MY QUESTION IS HOW DID YOUR STAFF COME TO THIS SELECTING THAT CASE SCENARIO OF THE THREE BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT I BELIEVE IT WAS. IT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE TAC FOR A VOTE BUT THEY HAD QUESTIONS AND THEREFORE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE VOTING. SO AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD ON THE FUNDING SIDE OF THE COIN. AND IT'S VERY VERY COMPLICATED AND WE WENT INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN I DID HERE. WE BROKE UP WE BROKE OUT THAT BLUE PORTION OF THE PIE AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE WERE TAC MEMBERS WHO MADE COMMENTS DURING THE PRESENTATION LAST MONTH WHERE THEY SAID I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS BREAKDOWN OF THE FUNDING BEFORE. AND I THINK IT TOOK US ALMOST AN HOUR TO GET ALL OF US COLLECTIVELY ON THE SAME PAGE OF HOW THE FUNDING WORKED. AND AGAIN WE WENT INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL WITH THEM BECAUSE AS OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE WE RELY ON THEM TO PROVIDE US FEEDBACK. SO I THINK BY THE TIME WE'VE GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF ESTABLISHING HOW THE FUNDING WORKS PEOPLE WERE STILL TRYING TO DIGEST THAT BEFORE THEY FELT COMFORTABLE MAKING A DECISION ON SCENARIO TWO. BUT AGAIN THIS IS WHY WE DO THIS AS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM FIRST AND THEN COME BACK FOR A FINAL ENDORSEMENT LATER. SO I THINK THE INTENT IS THAT MUCH OF THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL SAW TODAY IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE GIVEN TO THE TAC NEXT TIME AROUND AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WILL BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO HOW THE

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SURE WHAT THAT WHERE THAT CONVERSATION WAS PROBABLY WAS BEFORE MY TIME BUT I AM DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THE OPENING OF PEMBROKE ROAD AND IT'S NOT JUST THE MIRAMAR. I'M SORRY. NOT JUST AT PEMBROKE PINES IT IS MIRAMAR AND PEMBROKE PINES PROJECT THE PEMBROKE ROAD IS REALLY BOTH IN BOTH CITIES AND IT IS IT IS CRITICAL FOR US. SO I CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT PART OF MAYOR ORTIS'S COMMENT. ALL OF MY COMMUNICATIONS ON PEMBROKE ROAD ALWAYS INVOLVE THE CITY OF MIRAMAR. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE. THANK YOU. THEY ARE ACTUALLY A SHINING EXAMPLE OF REGIONAL COORDINATION BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES. BOARD MEMBER GOOD. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. YEAH DEPENDING WHERE YOU STAND ON PEMBROKE ROAD STANDING IN MIRAMAR AND PEMBROKE PINES. SO JUST REAL QUICK ON THE SCENARIO TWO THAT'S BEFORE US HERE. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THEN THAT TAC DID NOT HAVE DEFINITIVE ACTION ON THIS RECOMMENDATION. SO AS PART OF THE INFORMATIONAL ITEM WE WERE TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS ON WHICH ONE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH BEFORE WE GO TO ENDORSEMENT.

THAT'S WHY WE PRESENTED THEM WITH ALL THREE SCENARIOS AND THEY CHOSE TO DEFER THAT ACTION UNTIL THE ACTUAL ENDORSEMENT WHICH WAS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH ANYWAY. SO WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION PRIOR TO YOU ALL GETTING TO ENDORSE IT IN MAY. OKAY. AND THEN THEIR REASONING FOR THAT IS THEY WANTED TO SEEK INPUT FROM THIS THIS BODY. I THINK SO YES. AND NOW THAT THEY BETTER UNDERSTOOD HOW THE FUNDING WORKED I THINK THEY FELT AS THOUGH THAT THEY COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND MORE CLEARER LIGHT NOW UNDERSTANDING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE STATE AND MPO ATTRIBUTABLE DOLLARS. SO BASED ON CONVERSATIONS HERE TODAY. IS IT YOUR INTENTION THEN TO GO BACK TO TAC WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT MPO DESIRED SCENARIO 2. ARE YOU GOING BACK TO TAC AND SHARING ALL THE VARIOUS SCENARIOS AND SEEK FURTHER INPUT FROM THEM TO COME BACK BEFORE US. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF THE LATTER AND ALSO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. SO THEY'VE SEEN ALL THREE SCENARIOS. THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO THEM WITH SCENARIO 2 AND ALLOW THEM TO PROVIDE US FEEDBACK IF ANY IS REQUIRED IN ORDER TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO SCENARIO TWO AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS BODY IN MAY AND REVIEW THE THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE TAC AND THEN ALLOW YOU ALL TO PROVIDE FINAL INPUT FOR ENDORSEMENT IF THE ITEMS BEFORE US AS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

WHY WOULD YOU NOT JUST GO BACK TO TAC WITH ALL THE INFORMATION AND MAKE A NOTATION THAT YOU KNOW THERE WAS A YOU KNOW MAYBE BASED ON COMMENTARY FROM THE VARIOUS MPO MEMBERS THERE WAS A FOCUS ON SCENARIO TWO BUT FOR YOU TO GO BACK NOW AND JUST PRESENT ONE SCENARIO ESSENTIALLY. I MEAN I THINK THAT THAT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT THE PURPOSE OF HAVING TAC AND CAC I THINK THEY'RE THERE TO PROVIDE FURTHER INPUT TO THIS BIGGER BODY AND THEN WE TAKE ACTION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. SO I WOULD JUST AS ONE MEMBER FROM MPO I WOULD SAY THAT ALL THE INFORMATION TO BE PRESENTED THROUGH TAC AGAIN CERTAINLY AS STAFF MPO STAFF YOU CAN MAKE WHATEVER COMMENTARY IS NECESSARY TO ADVISE WHAT THE CONVERSATIONS HERE WERE.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT SOME KIND OF MINUTES COULD BE SHARED AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN THE OTHER WAY AROUND WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING BEFORE US THAT SAYS STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THERE COULD BE YOU KNOW YOU COULD REALLY TAKE THAT TO MEAN THAT IT'S GONE THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROCESS COMMITTEES AND THEN BEFORE US. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CLARIFY THAT IT'S MPO STAFF MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION AND WHENEVER NECESSARY PROVIDE US. YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF MINUTES ARE KEPT THROUGH YOU KNOW FROM TAC CONVERSATIONS OR ACTION SUMMARIES ARE KEPT. BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY

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WELL ACTUALLY THAT'S DONE BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS ON THE ACTION ITEMS WERE TAC AND CAC HAVE WEIGHED IN. YOU ALWAYS REPORT EXACTLY RIGHT THAT THEY WOULD BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS I THINK. TODAY THIS IS AN ISSUE I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT YOUR YOUR POINT WAS MOVING FORWARD. I'M SAYING WE'RE ALREADY GETTING THAT. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CHAIR BUT TODAY THIS INFORMATIONAL ITEM IS SOMEHOW BEING TURNED INTO SOME TYPE OF ACTION ITEM. AND I'M WE'RE NOT. CAN I JUST FINISH. HE JUST SAID THAT SCENARIO 2 IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED AND MOVING FORWARD. SO THEREFORE ESSENTIALLY WE ARE SAYING WE WANT SCENARIO 2 AND WHAT I AM SAYING IS IF IT'S GOING TO BE AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE. AND ALL THE INFORMATION SHOULD BE PRESENTED BACK TO TAC FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US. AND YOU CAN ALWAYS IMPLY THAT WHATEVER BASED ON COMMENTARY IS HERE TODAY THAT SCENARIO TWO SEEMED TO GET THE MOST YOU KNOW A POSITIVE FEEDBACK BUT I DON'T WANT AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM TO SOMEHOW TURN INTO SOME KIND OF HYBRID ACTION ITEM AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY. THANK YOU.  FINAL SPEAKERS. MAYOR I'M SORRY COMMISSIONER PULCINI. YEAH. TIED TO WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER JUST SAID. WELL WHEN I GO ONLINE ON THEIR AGENDA MINUTES THERE IS THE LATEST MINUTES FROM TAC FROM 2016 SO THERE'S NO CURRENT MINUTES FOR TAC.

AND PARDON ME?  WHEN I CLICK ON TAC MEMBERS IT SAYS THAT PAGE HAS BEEN REMOVED. OKAY. BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THE TAC MEMBERS ARE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WEBSITE YOU'RE ON. ON THE MPO WEBSITE. AND IT TELLS ME THE PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WAS REMOVED HAS MOVED REMOVED RENAMED OR MIGHT NEVER HAVE EXISTED. I ACTUALLY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AS WE SPEAK.

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PAGE THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND UNDERNEATH THAT IT ACTUALLY OR COMMITTEES EXCUSE ME. AND THEN IF YOU SCROLL DOWN UNDER THE LEFT SIDE YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE CAC MEMBERS YOU CAN GO DOWN AND SEE THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD MEMBERS. YOU CAN SEE THE TAC MEMBERS. I HAVE ON A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAYS TAC MEMBERS AND THEN I CLICK ON IT. IT SAYS THIS PAGE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WAS MOVED REMOVED RENAMED MIGHT NEVER HAVE EXISTED. I THINK WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER COMING TO WHERE YOU ARE.

IT'S THE OLD WEB SITE COM. YEAH. SO THAT WEBSITE DOESN'T EXIST AND IT HASN'T EXISTED.

YEAH. I CAN SHOW YOU.

IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE ON THAT COMMISSIONER OR A BOARD MEMBER IT SAYS TAC MEMBERS AND THEN YOU CLICK ON THAT AND THEN I'LL GIVE YOU A LISTING OF ALL THE TAC MEMBERS AND WHERE THEY ARE AND THEIR ATTENDANCE RECORD. OH OK. ALL THE MINUTES ARE THERE TOO IF YOU GO THE GOING GONNA BE HERE AS WELL. YEAH ACTUALLY IF YOU GO TO THE AGENDAS AGENDAS AND MINUTES. YOU HIT THAT AND THEN YOU GO TO THE MONTH WHATEVER MONTH YOU WANT TO HIT. AND GIVEN WHAT STARTED FEBRUARY AND YOU LOOK AT FEBRUARY MONTH IT'LL SAY CAC IT'LL SAY TAC, MPO EXECUTIVE AND THEN YOU SEE THE OTHER COLUMN THAT SAYS MINUTES. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE THIS WEBSITE UP INSTEAD OF THE OTHER WEBSITE OK.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT I THINK.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER FOLKS IN LINE TO SPEAK SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NICE NICE PRESENTATION THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. MR.

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[1. DISCUSSION AND MOTION(S) Regarding the Interlocal Agreement for Transportation Surtax Services]

SO WE NEED 14, WE GOT 18. OK. SO ALL RIGHT. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. BEFORE YOU DO THAT. THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO VERY IMPORTANT. AND IT'S ACTUALLY A PRESENTATION THAT YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE MADE TO YOUR COMMISSIONERS. SO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT STAFF ON BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE MPO SIDE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE'VE COME TO REALLY GREAT CONCLUSION OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE IT'S A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT FOR THE PRIORITIZATION OF MUNICIPALS PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE SURTAX AS WELL AS SETTING UP A PROGRAM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE EXHIBIT ATTACHED ON SETTING UP A PROGRAM SIMILAR TO CSLIP THAT WE ARE ALL VERY FAMILIAR WITH. AND EVERYBODY HAS PUT IN APPLICATIONS THROUGH AND HAS RECEIVED AWARDS. BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN THIS PROPOSED CSLIP MODIFIED PROGRAM IS THE FUNDING WILL BECOME AVAILABLE LITERALLY IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAT THE VERY FIRST FISCAL YEAR. DURING THE TIME WE WERE NEGOTIATING AND WHEN WE HAD ACTUALLY HAD EXECUTIVE ACTION COMMITTEE THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER CHANGES THAT WERE DONE BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DREW [INAUDIBLE] NOT THIS COUNTY ATTORNEY. AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAD REALLY GREAT CONVERSATIONS OURSELVES AND WE JUST HAD TO BRING DREW UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE WERE. THERE WERE SOME YOU KNOW OTHER ISSUES AND AS OF LAST NIGHT AT 7 O'CLOCK WE WERE DONE. SO WE CAN WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES BUT THEY'RE NOT BUSINESS TERMS NECESSARILY. THE BUSINESS MODEL OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED IS SOLID. IT'S BASICALLY THE SCOPE YOU HAVE IN THE AGENDA THE ITEMS THAT WERE CHANGED OR JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES BETWEEN THE ILA WITH THESE COUNTY THE CITIES AND THE MPO ON ACTUALLY HOW THESE SALES TAX DOLLARS WILL WORK. AND ONCE THAT IS THEN CHANGED THEN YOU KNOW THIS IS RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT. AND WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY GOOD FRIEND.

THANK YOU GREG. GOOD AFTERNOON. ANGELA WALLACE WITH THE BROWARD COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE SINCE WE PRESENTED THE DRAFT AGREEMENT TO THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE LAST WEEK AS GREG INDICATED DEAL WITH THE THE ORIGINAL INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND WHAT'S PROVIDED IN THE ORIGINAL INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT. SO SINCE THE SURTAX PASSED WE MET WITH GREG AND ALAN ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND WE'VE ALSO HAD INTERACTIONS PRESENTATIONS AT THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES AND WITH THE CITY COUNTY MANAGER'S MEETINGS AND SO FORTH. AND WE HAD RECEIVED INPUT FROM A LOT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE 709 MUNICIPAL PROJECTS THAT WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE PLAN. THOSE PROJECTS LIKE RESURFACING TYPE PROJECTS WOULD NOT FALL WITHIN THE CATEGORIES THAT THE THAT THE MPO WAS CHARGED WITH PRIORITIZING SO THEY WOULD NOT PROMOTE PROMOTE CONNECTIVITY OR REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AND WHAT WE HAD BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THE MPO AND SEEMED TO BE FAVORABLY RECEIVED BY A LOT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE MPO AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT PRIORITIZE THE 506 PROJECTS THAT DO PROMOTE CONNECTIVITY AND REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. AND THEN THEY WOULD PRIORITIZE THEM AND THEN BASED ON FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SHOVEL READY WOULD BE FUNDED AND THEN WE COULD FUND THE MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION PROJECTS

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THAT IS CORRECT SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE VOTING ON NOW IS TO ESTABLISH THE FUNDING FOR THE REASONABLE COST OF SERVICES THAT THE MPO STAFF IS GOING TO REQUIRE IN ORDER TO ANALYZE AND RANK THE PROJECTS CERTAINLY THE PROJECTS THE 506 PROJECTS THAT DEAL WITH THE THAT WILL ENHANCE CONNECTIVITY AND REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. WITH REGARD TO THE OTHER TWO HUNDRED THREE PROJECTS THEY ARE THEY GOING TO GET RANKED BY THE MPO OR THOSE PROJECTS WOULD THEY THESE LIKE RESURFACING PROJECTS AND OTHER MUNICIPAL PROJECTS. ARE THEY GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE THE COUNTY COMMISSION OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE RANKED FIRST BY THE MPO BASED UPON THE THE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS. THEY DO THE 203 MAINTENANCE AND REHABILITATION PROJECTS DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THE MPO IS CHARGED WITH APPLYING. SO IF THE IF THEY REMAIN IN THE 709. IF THE WHOLE SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINE REMAIN IN THE MPO PROCESS THE REHAB AND MAINTENANCE WILL BE WHAT WILL BE BASICALLY YOU KNOW SET ASIDE OR NEVER PRIORITIZED OR RANK BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THE MPO WAS APPLYING. SO WE THAT ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND WE HAVE WE NEED TO HAVE A CONSENSUS WITH REGARD TO HOW THOSE THAT ISSUE AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SEPARATE THAT OUT BECAUSE THE LANGUAGE IN THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FROM AUGUST OF 2018 DOES PROVIDE FOR THE WHAT IT SAYS THE THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL PROJECTS THE ENTIRE 709 PROJECTS. SO IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT ALL THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE WOULD BE RANKED WOULD BE PRIORITIZED BEFORE THEY WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION. SO WHEN THIS NEW INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT IS DISTRIBUTED AMONG THE CITIES I JUST WANT THE MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY BE OF BENEFIT TO YOU TO NOT HAVE YOUR REHAB PROJECTS ASKED THAT THEY BE RANKED BECAUSE OTHERWISE WON'T EVEN COME UNDER CONSIDERATION WITH RESPECT TO THIS INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT. AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT CHOICE. DO YOU WANT THOSE LOCAL REHAB PROJECTS TO BE ABLE TO GO DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION. SO AS LONG AS THAT'S BEEN CLARIFIED I'M IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THAT ARE READY TO GO.

AND YOU'VE GOT SOME FEDERAL FUNDS THAT ARE IN PLACE. SO WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES SO THAT WE WOULDN'T WASTE A YEAR AND WE STILL ARE AS THE LAWYERS YOU KNOW MAKE MORE AND MORE MONEY. WE'RE WE'RE TIGHTENING UP THE LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A LOCAL AGREEMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AUGUST 2018 AGREEMENT BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU FOR THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF THE AUGUST 2018 AGREEMENT. AND AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS AGREEMENT WHICH IS REALLY NECESSARY TO GET THE FUNDING TO THE MUNICIPALITIES WE WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE VERY CLEAR ON THE RECORD THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY INCONSISTENCIES UNLESS THE MUNICIPALITIES AGREE TO IT NOT JUST THE MPO AND THE COUNTY BUT THE MUNICIPALITIES ALSO WHO WANTS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE THESE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS I'LL CALL IT. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A REALLY EXCELLENT EXPLANATION. I WOULD. I'D JUST LIKE TO. I'M GRETCHEN CASSINI FROM BROWARD COUNTY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN SAID PREVIOUSLY THAT'S RELATED TO THOSE SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINE PROJECTS ON THE RECORD. WE HAVE A 30 YEAR PLAN. THOSE 709 PROJECTS ARE PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE 30 YEARS THAT 15.6 BILLION DOLLARS OF ESTIMATED REVENUE OVER THE 30 YEAR TIMEFRAME HAS BEEN PROGRAMS IN PROJECTS BOTH CITY AND COUNTY PROJECTS. SO I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE TO LEAVE HERE WITH AN EXPECTATION THAT ALL 2.8 BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF CITY PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN WOULD BE FUNDED IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS. THE IDEA OF CARVING OUT REHAB AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS WAS SO

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HOPEFULLY WE GET THERE AND I THINK THAT'S. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? QUESTION. WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO GET THERE. WELL WHAT'S REASONABLE FOR US AS CITIES TO SAY THE PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMITTED FOR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS WHICH WE USED TO CALL ME THIS PROJECT WILL FILTER OUT OF THAT SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINE OR WHATEVER IT IS. IT IS OUR AND I WILL LET ANGELA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT IT IS OUR EXPECTATION NOW THAT THIS HAS COME TO LIGHT. AND JUST SO THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE THIS JUST CAME TO LIGHT ON MONDAY. SO WE WOULD THERE WOULD BE AN ISSUE. SO ANGELA IS WORKING OVERTIME AND SERIOUSLY OVERTIME TRYING TO GET THE THE ELEMENTS OF THE EXISTING INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FIVE YEAR PLAN. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT ALL OF THE CITIES THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU KIND OF WITHOUT HESITATION HAVE SAID YES WE WANT THAT WE WANT CERTAINTY WE WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHEN OUR PROJECTS ARE GETTING DONE AND WE WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE GONNA GET EACH YEAR. SO INCLUDING A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND EXCLUDING REHAB PROJECTS WOULD BE COMING IN AN AMENDED AGREEMENT ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED LIKE BETTER DEFINITIONS OF WHAT ROAD ROADWAY CAPACITY EXPANSION IS. SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE COMING TO YOU IN THE NEXT MONTH THE NEXT MONTH FOR YOU TO TAKE ACTION ON. MR. STUART YES. WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN WHICH IS FROZEN I CAN'T MOVE IT. IS THAT THE SAME INFORMATION THAT IF I GO TO THE MPO WEBSITE. NO SIR. HOW DO I ACCESS THIS REVISED AGREEMENT. WE HAVEN'T. [INAUDIBLE] SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS A DIFFERENT DRAFT OF WHAT WAS PRESENTED ORIGINALLY IN YOUR PACKAGE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. SO I'M JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF. WHEN DO I GET A COPY OF THAT THAT WE HAVE HARD COPIES WE COULD GIVE YOU TODAY YOU'D LIKE A HARD COPY BUT WILL IT BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE IT'LL BE PUT ON THE WEBSITE. BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING I WANT TO BE CLEAR IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THAT A AND B ARE ALSO THAT THAT LANGUAGE ITSELF IS NEW THAT IS STRICKEN OUT ON THERE BUT THAT'S NO YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT EITHER.

THAT WASN'T BEFORE THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE EITHER AND THAT'S BECAUSE THESE ARE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BETWEEN THE COUNTY COUNCIL AND MYSELF WITH THE MPO. GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. I SEE NO ONE SIGNED IN. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR SOMEBODY TO REMOVE IT.  [INAUDIBLE] OK. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE THE AGENDA MOVE THE ITEM PLEASE VOTE. ALL RIGHT.  THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES. LOOK AT THAT IT'S UNANIMOUS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THE FOURTH.

[2. DISCUSSION AND MOTION(S): A. Fourth Amendment to Interlocal Agreement for Creation of the Broward County Metropolitan Planning Organization (i) Allowing Alternates for the Broward County Board of County Commissioner MPO Board Members; (ii) Directing MPO General Counsel and Executive Director to Acquire the Necessary Approvals From the Parties to the Agreement and to Process/Record Appropriate Documents as Needed B. Amendments to the Rules of the Broward Metropolitan Planning Organization (BMPO) to be effective upon approval of the Fourth Amendment by a majority of its Members]

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IT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO MOVE IT. ANY DISCUSSION? SCHOOL MEMBER GOOD. SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. SO SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND SO THEN WE'RE LOOKING HERE AGAIN TO PROVIDE ALTERNATE MEMBERS TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. OK. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE MUNICIPAL MEMBERS OF WHICH I THINK THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MPO MEMBERS IS 25 VOTING MEMBER VOTING VOTING MEMBERS 38. THERE'S 38 RIGHT. CORRECT. WE'LL ADD FOUR MORE.

OK. SO OF THE MUNICIPAL MEMBERS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALTERNATE MUNICIPAL MEMBERS TO INTERACT ON THE MPO AND THOSE MEMBERS ARE USUALLY YOU KNOW SELECTED I GUESS BY ORDER OF POPULATION OF THEIR RESPECTIVE CITIES. SO IT'S NOT LIKE MIRAMAR HAS AN ALTERNATE MIRAMAR MEMBER BUT YET WE HAVE ANOTHER MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING NOW TO GIVE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FROM THE SAME BODY. CORRECT. SO AM I UNDER. I JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING EVERYTHING CORRECTLY THAT IS CORRECT. SO THE MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE IS NOT BEING CHANGED  WE HAVE THE REGULAR MEMBERS AND THEN WE HAVE THE DESIGNATED ALTERNATE MEMBERS OF THE MUNICIPAL BODIES THAT THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE COUNTY WHERE THERE'S ACTUALLY FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT SIT ON THE BOARD ONE BEING THE SFRTA REPRESENTATIVE. COMMISSIONER RYAN. THERE IS NO ALTERNATE FOR THAT POSITION.  SFRTA STILL REMAINS THE SINGLE PARTY SINGLE PERSON. SO WHAT IS THE RATIONALE FOR HAVING A MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE. WELL IT ORIGINALLY WAS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD 19 MEMBERS VOTING MEMBERS THAT COULD VOTE. AND NOW IT'S 25. BUT EVEN WITH THAT WE STILL DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH MEMBERS WHO ARE ABLE TO VOTE AND PARTICIPATE. SO DEPENDING UPON THOSE WHO ARE PRESENT GIVES THOSE ALTERNATES WHETHER IT BE THE COUNTY AS IT'S PROPOSED NOW OR WHETHER IT BE THE MUNICIPALITIES AS IT PREVIOUSLY WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE BOARD MEETING AND THEY WILL HAVE THE COUNTY ALL WILL ALSO HAVE THE. I'M ONLY ASKING ABOUT. OK. BUT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T PROVIDE FOR THE NECESSARY THE 31 WE ACTUALLY THERE'S 32 MUNICIPALITIES IF YOU COUNT THE FORT LAUDERDALE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE HAS TWO MEMBERS. OK. SO THERE'S JUST NO WAY POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO VOTE AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT FASHION. SO HAVING THE ALTERNATE MUNICIPAL PARTICIPATED AFFORDS THE SMALLER CITIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION AND VOTE ON ACTION THAT'S BEING TAKEN BY THE MPO. YES MA'AM.

THAT'S CORRECT AND THAT'S WHY EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO VOTE. EXACTLY. EXACTLY.

SO IF THIS PROPOSAL GETS APPROVED WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE OPPORTUNITY OF MUNICIPAL ALTERNATES TO PARTICIPATE. WE WOULD STILL. WE WOULD STILL LOOK AT THE MUNICIPAL ALTERNATIVES BASED UPON POPULATION AND AS THE NUMBER OF 25 OR GREATER AS IT GOES BEYOND 25 THEY WOULD DROP OFF LIKE THEY DO CURRENTLY. RIGHT.

BUT RIGHT NOW IF A COUNTY COMMISSIONER CHOOSES NOT TO ATTEND THE MEETING FOR WHATEVER REASON A MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE CAN CAN VOTE AGAIN THEY ALL VOTE BUT THEY JUST DON'T THEY STILL GET RECORDED. BUT IT JUST DOESN'T COUNT INTO THE NUMBER. I GET YOU'RE BEING A LAWYER BUT I'M JUST I'M I'M I'M JUST BEING AN MPO MEMBER AT THIS POINT AND I'M SURE I UNDERSTAND AND MAKE A POINT RIGHT NOW. YES YOU'RE CORRECT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE GETTING GUIDANCE FROM THE [INAUDIBLE]. WE WERE TALKING. OK. SO SO MY QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW IF TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CHOOSE NOT TO COME TO THE MEETING THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TWO MUNICIPAL ALTERNATES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING. YES. RIGHT. AND SO MY QUESTION AS HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A MUNICIPAL MEMBER TO PARTICIPATE. THERE IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE AN IMPACT FOR A MUNICIPAL MEMBER INDIVIDUAL MEMBER WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE THE VOTE THE VOTE MAY NOT COUNT TOWARDS THE TOTAL VOTE OF THE 25.

NO YOU'RE NOT GETTING. SO MY QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW THERE'S FOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. YES. WELL MOST OF THE TIME NOT ALL FOUR COME. RIGHT. SO THERE'S USUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE OF THE

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AND I WOULD ASK THAT. I'M ACTUALLY KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THE ITEMS BEFORE US. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOLNESS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED. MR. STUART. IN MIAMI-DADE COUNTY. HOW MANY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE ON THE UH THEIR TRANSPORTATION AGENCY.

DO YOU KNOW THAT'S ACTUALLY UNIQUE IN THE CONSTITUTION MIAMI-DADE HAS A SEPARATE CHAPTER SO THE ENTIRE COUNTY COMMISSION AND THEN ANY CITY OVER. I THINK IT'S FIFTY THOUSAND BUT THEY ARE ALSO CAPPED AT THE TWENTY FIVE THE NUMBER OF VOTES TWENTY FIVE. THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ALTERNATES AT ALL. SO THIRTEEN OF THE TWENTY FIVE MEMBERS IN MIAMI DADE COUNTY ARE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CORRECT. SO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE CHANGES THE ROLE THAT I'M SEEING UP THERE GOING ON FOR THEM.

YES. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M POINTING OUT IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE FOR US TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE BEING THE REGIONAL BODY AND I KNOW EVERY INDIVIDUAL HERE PLAYS A ROLE IN REPRESENTATIVE REPRESENTING PRIMARILY THE CITY THAT YOU REPRESENT AND WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM BEING HERE SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS HERE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE REGION THEN THE INTERESTS OF THE ENTIRE REGION IS NOT ALWAYS AS REPRESENTED AS IT OUGHT TO BE. AND THAT IS PART OF THE DIALOGUE WE HAD AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS THIS BODY TAKES CARE OF INDIVIDUAL CITY BUT IT ALSO PLAYS A ROLE IN WHAT HAPPENS IN THE OVERALL COUNTY FOUR OR FIVE OF US HERE. IT'S NOT OVERWHELMING COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF CITIES THAT ARE REPRESENTED. SO THE BALANCE IS NOT THROWN OFF BY US HAVING ALTERNATIVES HERE. WHEN ONE OF US IS NOT PRESENT NOW I'M HERE MOST OF THE TIME. I MEAN SELDOMLY DO I MISS A MEETING. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE HERE. BUT THERE MIGHT BE TIMES WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS NOT HERE.

AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER FURR AND COMMISSIONER RYAN'S PRETTY MUCH HERE ALSO. AGAIN THIS WILL NOT CHANGE IN THE BALANCE. THIS SHIFT IN ANY POWER STRUCTURE HERE IN TERMS OF GIVEN THE COUNTY MORE REPRESENTATION TO TO HAVE FIVE VOTES CONSISTENTLY AND WE MAY NOT HAVE FIVE VOTES CONSISTENTLY BECAUSE THOSE WHO ARE ALTERNATIVE PROBABLY WON'T SHOW UP ANYWAY. OKAY. IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWING UP JUST GOING TO SHOW UP AS IT IS NOW. SO FIVE OUT OF TWENTY FIVE LOOK AT THAT RATIO. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. TO BE CANDID. JUST SO THE BOARD MEMBER KNOWS. BOARD MEMBER GOOD. THIS STARTED ABOUT BECAUSE THE COUNTY NEVER AGREED TO THE THIRD INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT AND IT STILL WENT THROUGH IT WENT THROUGH THE LEGAL PROCESS. IT WAS SIGNED BY THE F.D.A. SECRETARY OR HIS DESIGNEE AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE IT. THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE REAPPORTION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ASKED VERY EARLY ON OF MY FAVORITE COUNTY COMMISSIONER SORRY EVERYBODY IS GONNA FIND OUT BUT COMMISSIONER RYAN SAID YOU KNOW THAT THIS REMEDIES ANY PROBLEM THAT THE COUNTY PREVIOUSLY HAD AND THAT EXCITES ME THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE. THE IDEA OF PUTTING ON THE ALTERNATES FOR THE COUNTY. YOU KNOW I WE WANTED AS MUCH PARTICIPATION AS POSSIBLE AND. AND COMMISSIONER FURR SAID YOU KNOW THAT IF THERE WERE MORE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS INVOLVED AND THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE FIVE VOTES THAT THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS. I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT. YOU KNOW UNTIL TODAY I WAS SURPRISED WHEN SOUTHWEST RANCHES I DIDN'T KEEP TRACK LIKE I NORMALLY DO BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TRUSTING GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THAT BUT UNTIL TODAY

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MY VOTE WILL BE HEARD TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. THERE IS AN OLD SAYING NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION WHETHER YOU'RE ONE OR ONE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY ONE THOUSAND WE UTILIZE EVERY SINGLE ROAD THAT'S IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IF YOU TOOK ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT AREN'T ALLOWED TO VOTE. IF YOU TOOK ALL THEIR TAXES AWAY AND YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. WE DO UTILIZE THEM WE DON'T WORK IN SOUTHWEST RANCHES. PATTY. YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY EXQUISITE. I COMMEND YOU FOR BITING FOR ALL OF US. THANK YOU SO MUCH COMMISSIONER RYAN AND COMMISSIONER FURR. WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS ITEM BEFORE AND I APPRECIATE VICE MAYOR CALETKA SHARING WITH US THE SUPPORT THAT I'VE HAD THAT I'VE INDICATED FOR THIS USE OF ALTERNATIVES ALTERNATE MEMBERS FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO BOARD MEMBER GOOD. YOUR ANALYSIS IS LOGICAL BUT I THINK IT'S HIGHLY THEORETICAL. THE LIKELIHOOD THAT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS GOING TO APPEAR AS AN ALTERNATE I THINK IS IT IS NOT TOO STRONG. I KNOW THEY DO A LOT OF OTHER WORK AND I DON'T FORESEE THEM BEING HERE AND SUBSTITUTING FOR A REGULAR MEMBER. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BUT I DO THINK THAT FOR. FROM THE MUNICIPAL PERSPECTIVE. IF AN ALTERNATE DID APPEAR FOR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT WAS NOT IN ATTENDANCE. THAT IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO THE MUNICIPALITIES ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE PASSAGE OF THE SURTAX AND HOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION MAKES A REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF ALL OF THE PROJECTS. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD WANT MORE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HERE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE INDIVIDUAL CITIES ARE. SO TO ME IT WOULD SEEM. I NEVER THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL THAT YOU WOULD BE VOTING IN YOUR OWN SELF-INTEREST AS A MUNICIPALITY TO SAY YES IF A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS NOT HERE AND YOU CAN FIND ANOTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT WILL APPEAR. IT'S A BENEFIT FOR ALL OF US. SO I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION COMMISSIONER FURR FOLLOWED BY COMMISSIONER COLBOURNE. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY HERE WE GO. I AM GONNA SUPPORT THIS. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT HOW THAT BALANCE OF PERSPECTIVE. I THINK THERE IS. I'VE BEEN A CITY COMMISSIONER. I'VE BEEN A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY YOU LOOK AT THINGS AND I THINK ABOUT THE HAVING BOTH PERSPECTIVES IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND THERE'S. WE HAVE A BALANCE RIGHT NOW. IT'S WORKING FAIRLY WELL BUT IT'S BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE MAINTAINED. THE OTHER PART IS BY HAVING EVERY COUNTY COMMISSIONER BE A MEMBER BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE PARTICULAR ALTERNATES BY HAVING EVERY COUNTY COMMISSIONER BE A MEMBER JUST LIKE EVERY CITY IS REPRESENTED. IT MEANS THE ENTIRE COUNTY WILL BE INFORMED AND ENGAGED TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WILL GET WILL BE GETTING THE AGENDAS JUST LIKE YOU ALL GET THEM EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING. YOU STILL GET HIM AND YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS WAY EVERY COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS GOING TO BE GETTING THAT THEY'LL KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IF YOU'RE IF YOU'RE IF YOU WHOEVER REPRESENTS YOU AS A CITY THAT COUNTY COMMISSIONER CAN BE FIGHTING FOR YOU AND FIGHTING WITH YOU ON PARTICULAR PROJECTS PARTICULARLY WITH A SURTAX YOU'RE GONNA BE WANTING YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER FIGHTING FOR YOU TO HELP YOU GET YOUR PROJECTS PASSED OR BROUGHT UP TO YOU KNOW PRIORITIZED. THAT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU WANT YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE. YOU MEAN ALL OF US ARE GONNA BE YOU KNOW WE ALL HAVE OUR PROJECTS. WE ALL HAVE THINGS WE WANT. AND YOU I THINK YOU WANT TO. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS REPRESENTED ON THIS. SO I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE BALANCE AS WELL AS TO KEEP EVERY

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I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT IT. COMMISSIONER. BASICALLY THE WAY THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE OPERATING THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS THAT WE HAVE DISTRICTS EACH. THERE IS NO DISTRICTS IN THE EVERY MUNICIPALITY. THERE IS THE MEMBER AND THEN THERE'S ALTERNATES WITHIN THAT MEMBERSHIP. IF IF THE MPO WAS TO CHANGE THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IT WOULD REQUIRE FOR US TO TAKE AWAY THE ALTERNATES AND TAKE AWAY THE DISTRICTS. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY BY STATUTE TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO VOTE DIRECTLY. THE WORST PROBLEM WOULD BE IS THAT YOU WOULD BE THOSE MEMBERS COULD BE NON-VOTING MEMBERS AND JUST BE ABLE TO SHOW UP AND NOT PARTICIPATE LIKE OTHER CITIES DO OR OTHER MPO DO THEY JUST DON'T PARTICIPATE IN THE MPO. SO WE ARE WE ARE ESTABLISHING A MPO SYSTEM THAT EXISTS BY OUR FOREFATHERS BEFORE MY TIME. BEFORE ALL OF YOUR TIME IS HOW THIS THE MPO WAS CREATED IN 1979 I BELIEVE IT WAS IT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THIS POSITION BUT THIS THIS CHANGE WOULD CHANGE THE STRUCTURE OF IT AS WELL. NO IT CHANGES YES TO SOME BUT NOT NOT AS IT RELATES TO THE MUNICIPALITIES IN THE DISTRICTS NOT AS IT RELATES TO MUNICIPALITIES BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE THAT YOU'RE STILL WITHIN A DISTRICT A DISTRICT SET UP AND YOU STILL HAVE YOU HAVE ALTERNATES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. THAT'S HOW IT IS HOW WE ARE SO WITHIN OUR DISTRICTS COULD WE HAVE COULD WE HAVE ALTERNATES AS WELL WITHIN THE DISTRICTS YET THERE ACTUALLY ARE. WELL YES. I MEAN FOR EXAMPLE MIRAMAR YOU'RE IN DISTRICT 5. YOU HAD IT OUT OF DISTRICT 5 THEN REGULAR MEMBERS ARE DAVIE PEMBROKE PINES MIRAMAR AND WESTIN ALL THIS IS BY ESTABLISHED BY. BUT THE THE ALTERNATES IN DISTRICT 5 AS COOPERS CITY WEST PARK SOUTHWEST RANCHES AND PEMBROKE PARK OK. BUT IF I'M IF I'M NOT HERE IF I'M NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TO MEETING ONE OF THOSE I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEND AN ALTERNATE FROM MY COMMISSION AS WELL. YOUR ALTERNATE THEN YOU'RE THE ALTERNATES WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT IS THE ONES WHO ARE ABLE TO BE PRESENT AND COUNTED AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF TWENTY FIVE THEN IT'S BY ORDER OF POPULATIONS HOW IS CALCULATED OUT WHICH IS WHY WE'RE A POPULATION THE LOWEST POPULATION WITH WITHIN THE COUNTY. THE CITY IS AS VILLAGE OF LAZY LAKE WHICH NEVER SHOWS SEA RANCH LAKES WHICH IS NOW SHOWING HILLSBOROUGH BEACH LAUDERDALE BY THE SEA, PEMBROKE PARK I MEAN I CAN GO THROUGH THE LIST BUT LET ME LET ME JUST BE CLEAR BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU'RE SAYING BECAUSE WE HAVE DISTRICTS NO LET ME LET ME EXPLAIN. LET ME ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE DISTRICTS A MUNICIPALITY WOULD NOT BE ABLE. WE CANNOT CHANGE OUR RULES TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO SEND ANOTHER ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL AS AN ALTERNATE FROM THEIR OWN MUNICIPALITY. THAT IS CORRECT. WE HAVE TO COMPLETELY CHANGE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL SETUP. BUT BUT FOR THE COUNTY BUT FOR THE COUNTY IT DOES NOT. YOU'RE TELLING ME IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE FROM THE COUNTY IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE STRUCTURE. MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVES ARE MADE UP OF THE COUNTY THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S THE OTHER SEPARATE DISTRICT. IT IS CHANGING. IT IS CHANGING THE CONCEPT AS IT PROVIDES FOR ALTERNATES FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. BUT YOU ASKED AS TO THE MUNICIPALITIES COULD YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE. AND I WAS TELLING YOU THAT YOU AS A MEMBER AND DISTRICT 5 AS MIRAMAR REPRESENTING MIRAMAR THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ALTERNATES AND THOSE

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YES. AND AS AN ATTORNEY. YOU'RE TELLING ME WHAT I'M TELLING YOU IS THAT YOU COULD OF COURSE BUT YOU OKAY. THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF WHAT THE MPO HOW THE MPO IS ORGANIZED IS AT THIS MOMENT. BUT YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE DISTRICTS. I MEAN IT WOULDN'T CHANGE WOULD KNOW I LOSE IT BECAUSE THE ALTERNATES WOULD NEVER HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE. PRESUMABLY A VOTE I MEAN WE'VE GRAPPLED SO CAN I MAKE A COMMENT HERE PLEASE. IF I WAS NOT HERE TODAY AND COMMISSIONER LAZAROW NOT HERE AND THE COMMISSIONER FROM DAVIE BEACH IS NOT HERE NONE OF US IN MY DISTRICT ARE REPRESENTED. SO BECAUSE MY ALTERNATES ARE NOT HERE EITHER. AND SO MAYOR CLARK IS GOING TO VOTE FOR ME TODAY FROM PEMBROKE PARK BUT MY CITY IS NOT REPRESENTED. WELL YOU KNOW WHAT. I'VE GOT A RESPONSIBILITY TO SHOW UP AND BE HERE. IT'S PART OF MY JOB. AND I REMEMBER I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER SOFIELD MONTHS AGO SAID I SET ASIDE THREE HOURS EVERY MONTH TO COME TO THIS MEETING FOR TODAY 4 TODAY 5 TODAY. BUT BUT MY BUT HIS POINT WAS THAT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY. AND HE DOES EVERYTHING HE CAN TO FULFILL IT. SORT OF WHY SO TO MOST OF YOU MOST OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR TO ME. I SEE YOU HERE. MOST OF THE TIME. SO THE QUESTION IS THIS COMMISSIONER COLBOURNE IF YOU WANT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE CAN CHANGE THE RULES.

EVERYBODY GETS AN ALTERNATE AND SMALLER CITIES WILL NEVER GET TO VOTE. ASSUMING THAT YOUR ALTERNATE SHOWS UP THE SMALLER CITIES. HOWARD DON'T EVEN SHOW UP. DON'T COME BACK BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER GET A CHANCE TO VOTE OR YOU SANDY OR YOU TOM.

YOU WILL NEVER GET A CHANCE TO VOTE BECAUSE ALTERNATES WILL SHOW UP. NOW THAT MAKES THE POINT THAT COMMISSIONER GOOD IS MAKING THAT WHY SHOULD THE COUNTY COMMISSION BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF US. OK. SORRY. MAY I SPEAK MY. SURE.

I RARELY DO SPEAK UP AT THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE MANY OF THE ISSUES ARE NOT RELEVANT TO OUR TOWN PERSAY BUT THEY ARE RELEVANT AS BOARD MEMBER GOOD SAID TO EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN THE AREA HAS ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND CERTAINLY I'D LIKE TO THINK ALTHOUGH WE'RE A VERY TINY TOWN AND I'M THE FIRST ONE THAT GETS KICKED OFF. THAT'S OK BECAUSE MY BEING HERE AND YOU ALL KNOW I COME EVERY TIME AND MY BEING HERE ALLOWS ME TO UNDERSTAND THE BIG PICTURE AND REPORT IT BACK TO OUR PEOPLE SO THAT THEY ARE ALL AWARE. I DON'T I THINK I'M INTELLIGENT ENOUGH THAT I DON'T NEED A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT WENT ON FROM A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. NO OFFENSE TO THEM AND WE NEED THEM AND WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF COURSE. BUT I AM TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT WITH BOARD MEMBER GOOD THAT IT'S VERY UNFAIR TOO FOR US TO BE KNOCKED OFF BECAUSE OF AN ALTERNATE WHO MAYBE ISN'T AS WELL AS FORMED AND HASN'T SAT IN EVERY MONTH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. HOWARD CLARK MEMBERS I DO RESPECT ALL MY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND I GUESS AFTER I GET DONE SAYING ALL THIS OUR PROJECTS ARE GONE. IT IS UNFAIR TRULY UNFAIR. I COME UP HERE EVERY MONTH AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I'M GONNA GET TO I GET TO VOTE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MY VOTE IS GOING TO COUNT. SO YOU WANT PARTICIPATION FROM EVERYBODY. SO THIS WOULD JUST DAMPEN THAT. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT FOR ONE YOU'VE GOT TO CHANGE IT FOR ALL WE SHOULD ALL HAVE ALTERNATES IF YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE IT FOR A GROUP FOR SMALL GROUP. SO I AGREE 100 PERCENT WITH A CHAIRMAN OR MEMBER GOOD. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS BOARD WOULD NOT DO THAT TO THE SMALLER GUY. I MEAN WE'RE ALTERNATES TO START WITH. THEN I COME HERE. ONE MINUTE I CAN VOTE NO COUNT. SOMEBODY JUST WALKED IN A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. IT DOESN'T COUNT. I MEAN I'M SITTING HERE BEING A NERVOUS WRECK BUT I DO WAIT. I DO. I DO GET IN MY CAR. I DO DRIVE. I DO PLAN THE TIME I DO GO OUT OF MY WAY BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW SO I CAN SHARE WITH OUR REGION ARE OUR COMMISSIONERS. AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

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THAT'S WHY I LOOKED AT THIS ONE. THIS PROBABLY IS MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. HOWEVER IT'S THE PRINCIPLE OF IT AND THAT'S WHERE I YOU KNOW I CAN ABSOLUTELY LOVE HAVING YOU EVEN WHEN YOU SAY THESE THINGS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND IT AND AND I WOULD PREFER IF ALL OF YOU COULD VOTE ALL THE TIME PERIOD. IT'S AN ARCHAIC STATUTE IN FLORIDA AND THE ONLY OTHER STATE THAT DOES THIS IS ALABAMA. SO I DON'T EVEN LIKE THE FACT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS WAY. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME VOTE AND THEN MOVE ON. AND IF YOU CAN'T VOTE YOU SHOULD HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN COME FOR YOU TO VOTE FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION YOUR MEMBER GOVERNMENT PERIOD. AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS THE HARDEST PART OF THIS. LOOKING AT IT FROM A STAFF MEMBER IS GOING OK WELL HOW DO WE COME TO A COMPROMISE AND CONSENSUS ON SOMETHING.

AND THAT IS THE AREA THAT BECOMES REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US AS STAFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE MAYOR OF PEMBROKE PARK COMMISSIONER CLARK. YOU KNOW YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

YOU SHOULD COME EVERY TIME WHETHER YOU VOTED OR NOT OR YOUR VOTE COUNTS OR NOT

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COMMISSIONER FURR IS OUR FINAL SPEAKER RIGHT NOW. EVERY CITY IS A MEMBER OF THE MPO CORRECT. BUT NOT EVERY COUNTY EVERY NOT EVERY DISTRICT IN THIS COUNTY IS REPRESENTED. YOU HAVE ONE MILLION PEOPLE NOT. NO IT'S NOT. NO BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MEANS THERE'S FOUR DISTRICTS OR THEY'RE NOT REPRESENTED THERE. EVERY CITY IN THIS COUNTY IS REPRESENTED THEREFORE THE COUNTY IS IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. NO. NOT AN ADEQUATE STATE. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE IS SOMEBODY FROM EVERY CITY THERE'S NOT SOMEBODY THERE'S NOT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER FROM EVERY COUNTY DISTRICT. THAT MEANS A MILLION PEOPLE ARE NOT REPRESENTED IN TERMS FROM FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE AND PERSPECTIVE IS IMPORTANT TO SAY HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WE COME TO THIS FROM OUR OWN YOU KNOW FROM OUR OWN PERSPECTIVE WE'RE ALL YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THINGS FROM FROM THE ANGLE THAT WE'VE BEEN REPRESENTED OR ELECTED. RIGHT NOW I THINK IF ALL NINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAME IN FOR THEM WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO VOTE. JUST LIKE WHEN ALL THE CITY COMMITTEE CITY COMMISSIONERS COME IN NOT ALL OF THEM CAN. IT'S THE SAME IT'S VERY SIMILAR. IF THEY ALL CAME IN THEY CAN'T ALL VOTE BUT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE. YOU DO WANT THEM TO BE ENGAGED AND YOU DO WANT THEM TO BE INFORMED BECAUSE IF THEY WHOEVER IS YOUR WHOEVER REPRESENTS YOUR CITY YOU WANT THEM IN YOUR CORNER FIGHTING FOR YOU FOR THAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE ENGAGED. IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT ALAN WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE DISTRICTS WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS THEY ARE THEY ARE SOMEWHAT AREA ORIENTED AND YOU'LL JUST LIKE YES BUT THERE'S NOT SIMPLY THERE'S NOT A SOMEBODY IN EVERY COUNTY THERE'S NOT EVERY COUNTY DISTRICT REPRESENTED RIGHT NOW THERE'S THOSE THOSE FIVE THOSE SEATS RIGHT UP IN FRONT. WELL NORMALLY IF YOU HAD ALL NINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD BE. THEY WOULD NOT ALL BE ABLE TO VOTE BUT THEY WOULD ALL BE ABLE TO SPEAK. CORRECT. JUST LIKE. AND THAT IS. THAT'S PART OF IT. THEY'D HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WHAT IS IMPORTANT BE ABLE TO BRING TO THE CONVERSATION SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT AND WITHOUT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT. SO RATHER WHAT WHAT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO VOTE OR NOT. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE ENGAGED AND INFORMED AND PART OF THIS OK. YES SIR. THANK YOU. I WILL GO AHEAD TO MOVE THIS FOR A VOTE. IF YOU CUE IT UP WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE IS THERE A SECOND THERE'S TWO ITEMS A AND B TOGETHER WE'LL COMBINE BOTH. YOU CAN I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IF IF A PASSES THEN. THEN B IS FOR THE RULES TO BE MODIFIED THOSE RULES WOULD NOT BE MODIFIED UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE FOURTH AMENDMENT IS ACTUALLY PROCESSED THROUGH AND IS APPROVED BY ALL THE NECESSARY CITIES AND COUNTY AND MEMBERS YES WE DO WORKING AS A QUORUM. WE HAVE A MOTION TO IS THERE A SECOND. IT'S A AND B. YET TOM GREEN. MOTION BY TOM MR. CALETKA. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. IMPORTANT VOTE. SO IF YOU HAVE A YES OR NO BUTTON YOU CHOOSE WHICH ONE YOU WANT. YES YOU DO.  MOTION FAILS. ALL RIGHT. BUSINESS IS SUPPOSED TO GO. IT'S 12 NOS. YES. YES THIS MOTION FAILS EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA IS FOR DISCUSSION. IF THERE IS NO QUESTION. NO COMMENTS. MEETING IS

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