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ļ»æ1 IF WE CAN GET THE BOARD TO TAKE THEIR SEATS WE'RE A LITTLE BIT TARDY BY ONE 2 MINUTE.

3 IT'S 9:31 WE'RE GONNA CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

4 OKAY I SEE EVERYBODY MOVING IN SO I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO

[1. Call to Order and Pledge]

5 ORDER IT IS 9:31.

6 FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS BRYAN CALETKA I'M GOING TO CHAIR THIS MEETING.

7 FIRST THING WE'RE GONNA DO IS THE PLEDGE SO IF YOU'LL PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE 8 OF ALLEGIANCE.

9 10 THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED.

11 AT THIS TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE WHAT THEY CALL THE ELECTRONIC ROLL CALL SO IF

[2. Electronic Roll Call]

12 SOMEBODY CAN REMIND ME WHAT IS THE BUTTON THAT WE PUSH TO SIGN IN.

13 REBECCA SCHULTZ BROWARD MPO THE TOP TOP LEFT HAND CORNER IS OUR YES BUTTON.

14 IF YOU COULD PLEASE SELECT THAT AND THAT WILL MARK YOU AS PRESENT.

15 OK.

16 LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ALL IN THAT'S HERE TODAY.

17 FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

[3. Approval of Minutes - July 11, 2019]

18 IF I CAN HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION ELECTRONICALLY TO APPROVE IT'S BEEN MOTIONED 19 AND SECONDED.

20 ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? 21 OK.

22 PLEASE VOTE.

23 THIS IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.

24 BOARD MEMBER STONER WE ARE WAITING FOR YOUR VOTE.

25 THANK YOU.

26 IT'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

27 SO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

[4. Approval of Agenda]

28 I GOT A MOTION BOARD MEMBER CARN SECONDED BY A BOARD MEMBER SOFIELD ARE WE READY 29 FOR A VOTE.

30 OKAY.

31 PLEASE VOTE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

32 OK IT'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY.

33 THANK YOU FOR THAT.

34 AT THIS TIME WE ARE TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS IF THERE'S ANY MEMBER OF THE

[5. Public Comments]

35 PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SIGN UP WE HAVE MRS. THOMAS BACK HERE WITH HER HAND UP 36 LOOKING FOR ANYBODY LOOKING TO MAKE A COMMENT.

37 SEEING NONE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

[6. Approval of Excused Absences]

38 WE HAVE EXCUSED ABSENCES TO APPROVE THESE INCLUDE VICE CHAIR ORTIS, BOARD MEMBER 39 MCKINZIE.

40 41 OH OKAY.

42 JUST VICE CHAIR.

43 SO TO MOTION TO EXCUSE VICE CHAIR ORTIS IF I CAN GET A MOTION.

44 GOT A MOTION AND I NEED A SECOND.

45 ALL RIGHT.

46 ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE.

47 OKAY.

48 PLEASE VOTE TO EXCUSE VICE CHAIR ORTIS.

49 OKAY.

50 IT'S APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY FOR THE MEMBERS THAT JUST SHOWED UP OR THEY CUED IN.

51 OKAY PERFECT.

52 OKAY.

[7. Comments from the Chair]

53 COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR.

54 I THINK GIVEN OUR LONG AGENDA I'LL MAKE THIS KIND OF BRIEF BUT I WILL TELL YOU 55 THIS.

56 SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WENT TO ASIA WHICH IS WHY I WAS ABSENT AND A COUPLE OF 57 BOARD MEMBERS WERE ABSENT AT THE LAST MEETING TO LOOK AT THREE DIFFERENT 58 TECHNOLOGIES IN TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

59 AND IT WAS ACTUALLY A GOOD TRIP IN MANY WAYS BECAUSE FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS YOU 60 KNOW WE TAKE SUNSHINE VERY SERIOUSLY SO WE DON'T KNOW ALWAYS INTERACT.

61 BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD INTERACTION WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER A LOT BETTER AND 62 AT LEAST FOR ME THE LEVEL OF RESPECT DEFINITELY WENT UP TOWARDS MY COLLEAGUES AS 63 I GOT TO KNOW THEM BETTER.

64 AND WE GOT TO SEE SOME INTERESTING THINGS AND NOW BASICALLY ALL THE EYES ARE 65 ON DADE COUNTY WHAT ARE THEY DOING AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME 66 THING WHICH YOU KNOW BROWARD IT'D BE NICE TO JOIN AND USE THE EXACT SAME 67 TECHNOLOGY BUT BROWARD HAS ALWAYS HAD A STRONG SENSE OF INDEPENDENCE AND WE'LL 68 SEE IF THAT CONTINUES WHEN THAT DECISION IS BEING MADE.

69 MR. DIRECTOR YOU HAVE LEGISLATIVE REPORTS.

[8. Executive Director’s and Legislative Reports]

70 YES I DO.

71 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

72 ACTUALLY I DO WANT TO BUILD OFF OF THE COMMENT ABOUT OUR TRIP TO SOUTHEAST ASIA.

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73 YOU KNOW WHILE WE WERE THERE AS A TEAM FROM THE BROWARD MPO AND ITS POLICY 74 BOARD MEMBERS HERE WE ALSO WERE JOINED BY THE MIAMI DADE TPO AND WITH THAT CAN 75 I GO AHEAD AND ROLL.

76 CONOR CAMPOBASSO ACTUALLY WHO TRAVELED WITH US PUT THIS QUICK VIDEO TOGETHER 77 78 WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO FIND THE BEST OPTIONS TO MOVE PEOPLE AND GOODS 79 THROUGHOUT OUR REGION.

80 WE LOOK TO INNOVATE AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF TRANSPORTATION 81 BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

82 THE BROWARD MPO AND MIAMI-DADE TPL TRAVEL TO MULTIPLE CITIES IN JAPAN 83 AND CHINA TO LEARN ABOUT AND EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT TRANSIT TECHNOLOGIES 84 AVAILABLE AS WELL AS GAIN INSIGHT ON HOW THESE TECHNOLOGIES CAN IMPROVE THE 85 TRANSIT NETWORK IN OUR REGION.

86 THE TRIP FOCUSED ON EXPLORING ALTERNATIVES TO CONVENTIONAL LIGHT RAIL 87 THROUGH THREE MAIN TECHNOLOGIES AUTOMATED GUIDE WAY TRANSIT OR GTA.

88 MONORAIL AND MAGNETIC LEVITATION OR MAGLEV SYSTEMS. 89 E.G. T REFERS TO VARIOUS TYPES OF GUIDED TECHNOLOGY.

90 A LOCAL EXAMPLE IS THE MIAMI METRO MOVER.

91 THESE SYSTEMS CAN RESEMBLE ANYTHING FROM A SMALL SHUTTLE LIKE THE METRO 92 MOVER TO A MEDIUM SIZED TRAIN LIKE THE SUBWAY.

93 THE 82 VEHICLES OFTEN HAVE RUBBER TIRES AND FEATURE A GUIDE WAY WHICH PROVIDES 94 BOTH PHYSICAL SUPPORT AS WELL AS GUIDANCE.

95 THE SYSTEMS THE TEAM EXPERIENCED IN TOKYO AND SHENZHEN PRESENTED MANY 96 BENEFITS INCLUDING RELIABILITY AESTHETICS.

97 AND HIGH SPEED.

98 OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DECADES HRT TECHNOLOGY HAS SEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS.

99 CURRENTLY THESE NEW MODELS OF ADT CAN MOVE UP TO 70 MILES PER HOUR AND PROVIDE 100 A SMOOTH RIDE.

101 THE MONORAIL SYSTEMS ARE SIMILAR TO TEAMS AND OFTEN USE RUBBER TIRES AND ARE 102 BEST IMPLEMENTED ON AN ELEVATED STRUCTURE.

103 HOWEVER MONORAIL IS DIFFERENT FROM TI BY USING SINGLE BEAM OR RAIL INSTEAD 104 OF A PLATFORM MONORAIL CAN EITHER BE SUSPENDED FROM OR STRADDLE THE ELEVATED 105 STRUCTURE.

106 THE SYSTEMS THAT WERE TOURED IN JAPAN AND CHINA WERE STRAGGLE SYSTEMS IN 107 WHICH THE CARS SIT ABOVE THE BEAM WITH LOW TIRES ON TOP AND GUIDE TIRES ON THE 108 SIDES OF THE STRUCTURE SIMILAR TO ADT MONORAIL SYSTEMS HAVE UNDERGONE LARGE 109 IMPROVEMENTS IN DEPENDABILITY DESIGN AND SPEED.

110 SOME SYSTEMS REACH OVER 70 MILES PER HOUR WHILE ANOTHER HAS AN ANNUAL 111 AVERAGE SCHEDULING DELAY OF ONLY THREE SECONDS.

112 MAGNETIC LEVITATION OR MAGLEV WAS THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY THAT WAS 113 ENCOUNTERED ON THE TOUR.

114 THERE ARE SEVERAL VERSIONS OF MAGLEV TRAINS RANGING FROM SMALL SHORT TERM 115 CONNECTION TRAMS TO LONG DISTANCE COMMUTERS.

116 THE MPO AND GPO TOUR FOCUSED ON FINDING A SYSTEM THAT CAN TRAVEL MEDIUM DISTANCES 117 WITHIN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT.

118 THIS RANGE OF MAGLEV REPLICATES THE CONCEPT OF A MONORAIL SYSTEM IN THAT IT 119 WRAPS AROUND A SINGLE STRUCTURE OR RAIL.

120 WHERE IT DIFFERS IS THAT IT USES POWERFUL ELECTROMAGNET TO SUPPORT AND ACCELERATE 121 THE TRAIN.

122 WHEN THE MAGNETS ARE ACTIVE.

123 THE TRAIN ELEVATES SEVERAL MILLIMETERS OFF THE RAIL WHICH REMOVES FRICTION 124 ALLOWING THE TRAIN TO MOVE.

125 WHAT MIGHT THESE TECHNOLOGIES MEAN FOR US.

126 BOTH THE MPO AND TPL ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE OF TRANSIT IN OUR REGION AND 127 ONE TO EVALUATE ALL OF THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE.

128 OUR VISION TWENTY ONE HUNDRED TRANSIT PLAN IS LOOKING AT WHAT BROADER 129 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM ULTIMATELY WILL LOOK LIKE.

130 THE PLAN PROVIDES A ROADMAP FOR BROUWER TO FUTURE AND IDENTIFIES OPPORTUNITIES 131 THAT LEVERAGE NEW AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES TO INCREASE TRANSPORTATION 132 OPTIONS RESILIENCY AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

133 VISION 20 100 WILL ALSO INTEGRATE INTO THE MIAMI-DADE APPEALS STRATEGIC 134 MIAMI AREA RAPID TRANSIT PLAN OR SMART PLAN WHICH IDENTIFIES TWO MAJOR 135 CORRIDORS THAT CONNECT INTO BROWARD THE FLORIDA EAST COAST CORRIDOR WHICH HAS 136 PRE-EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE UNIVERSITY DRIVE CORRIDOR ALSO KNOWN AS 137 NORTHWEST TWENTY SEVENTH AVENUE.

138 THE MPO AND TPL ARE AIMING TO CREATE A CONNECTION ALONG NORTHWEST TWENTY SEVENTH 139 AVENUE WITH TRANSIT LINKS INTO BROWARD UNIVERSITY DRIVE.

140 THIS CORRIDOR OR HOWEVER DOES NOT HAVE ANY PRE-EXISTING DEDICATED 141 TRANSIT INFRASTRUCTURE AND LACKS THE SPACE TO CONSTRUCT A TRADITIONAL 142 TRANSIT SYSTEM.

143 TECHNOLOGY IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR THIS CORRIDOR WORK BEST ELEVATED 144 TAKING LESS ROOM BY BEING PLACED IN LOCATIONS LIKE MEDIANS OR SHOULDERS WHILE 145 CREATING VIRTUALLY NO IMPACT FOR THOSE WHO DRIVE WALK OR RIDE BICYCLE.

146 IF MIAMI-DADE MOVES FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.

147 ROBERT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THAT TRANSIT SYSTEM INTO OUR 148 REGION.

149 THE ALIGNMENT AND TECHNOLOGY CHOSEN WILL PLA A LARGE ROLE IN THE TRANSIT 150 VISION FOR BROWARD.

151 WORKING TOGETHER.

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152 THE BROWARD MPO ALONGSIDE OUR TRANSPORTATION PARTNERS CAN IMPLEMENT A SYSTEM THAT 153 IS INNOVATIVE AFFORDABLE AND RELIABLE.

154 WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO IMPROVING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE WHO LIVE WORK AND 155 PLAY IN BROWARD.

156 FOR MORE INFORMATION VISIT BROWARD MPO SO YESTERDAY MIDDAY CHAIR OLIVER GILBERT 157 WHO IS THE TPO CHAIR ACTUALLY TESTIFIED BEFORE THE HOUSE TRANSPORTATION 158 COMMITTEE AND ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT OUR TRAVEL OVER TO SOUTHEAST ASIA AND 159 THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE SAW AS WELL AS THE MET WITH FOLKS IN THE SENATE SIDE 160 THAT HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH CHINESE MADE PRODUCT.

161 SO THERE IS CONVERSATION GOING ON WITH THE MIAMI DADE TPO AS WELL AS MIAMI 162 DADE COUNTY AND THE FOLKS UP IN WASHINGTON WHICH IS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE OF 163 MY REPORT.

164 AND FROM THERE, THERE IS ALSO NO REAUTHORIZATION BILLS ACTUALLY TRAVELING 165 THROUGH BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

166 THE SENATE HAS ACTUALLY STARTED ON THEIR SIDE OF THE TRANSPORTATION BILL THE 167 BANKING COMMITTEE WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR TRANSIT HAS NOT STARTED DRAFTING YET.

168 WE ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN SOMETIME LATE OCTOBER BEGINNING NOVEMBER 169 AND THEN THE HOUSE SIDE HAS STARTED DRAFTING AS WELL A TRANSPORTATION BILL ON BOTH 170 TRANSIT AND HIGHWAYS ACTUALLY TRAVELING THROUGH THE HOUSE BILL.

171 IF IF THIS WERE TO MOVE FORWARD THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW 172 THERE'S POSITIVE NET IMPACTS TO OUR COMMUNITIES HERE IN BROWARD WHERE THERE IS 173 ADDITIONAL FUNDING WE LOSE OUR COMPLETE DONOR STATUS AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA 174 PROVIDING TAXES BECAUSE MOST OF THIS WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH THE 175 GENERAL FUND OF THE U.S.

176 GOVERNMENT FOR FUNDING SO INCREASED DEFICIT SPENDING GUESS IS WHAT ANOTHER WAY 177 OF LOOKING AT IT.

178 THAT ALSO SAID WE ARE WORKING CURRENTLY WITH OUR FRIENDS AT HOLLAND AND 179 KNIGHT TO DEAL WITH ONE OTHER PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT DOES FACE US WITH THE 180 REAUTHORIZATION BILL AND THAT IS ACTUALLY CENSUS DATA AND CURRENTLY THE 181 FORMULA DOLLARS THAT COME DOWN TO THE BROWARD METROPOLITAN PLANNING 182 ORGANIZATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE BASED ON THE 2000 CENSUS.

183 AND AS WE ALL KNOW FLORIDA HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY SINCE 2000 AND CONTINUES TO 184 GROW THROUGH THIS NEXT CENSUS AS WE ANTICIPATE TO BE RETAIN OUR THIRD LARGEST 185 STATE IN THE NATION STATUS.

186 WE'RE BACK IN 2010 WE WERE NOT AT THAT LEVEL WE WERE BEHIND NEW YORK.

187 SO THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH THE FORMULA DOLLARS HOWEVER MY FRIENDS IN 188 NEBRASKA AND SOUTH DAKOTA WYOMING PREFER TO LEAVE THE PENNSYLVANIA THEY PREFER TO 189 LEAVE IT USING THE 2010 CENSUS DATA.

190 SO WE ARE WORKING WITH HOLLAND AND KNIGHT ON THAT.

191 AND THEN AS FAR AS TALLAHASSEE GOES I DO WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD MEMBERS 192 WILL BE HAVING THE LOCAL DELEGATION HERE AT THE BROWARD MPO AND I WOULD 193 LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THAT WOULD BE USEFUL 194 SO THAT WAY WHEN THEY'RE WORKING ON BILLS UP IN TALLAHASSEE AFFECTING 195 TRANSPORTATION THAT YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD.

196 AND WITH THAT MR. CHAIRMAN I'M DONE.

197 OK.

198 WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AND THE FIRST UP IS FORMER CHAIR BLATTNER.

199 THANK YOU.

200 I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ONE EARLY PART OF MR. STUART'S PRESENTATION AS WE'RE 201 LEAVING CHINA FOR HONOLULU.

202 WE LEARNED THAT FLORIDA CONGRESSIONAL PEOPLE ARE PROPOSING THAT THE U.S.

203 NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM CHINA.

204 WELL IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO FUND PROJECTS.

205 WE CAN'T BUILD BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S MADE IN CHINA.

206 AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN IS ALL THE POTENTIAL USE OF TECHNOLOGY TO THE BENEFIT 207 OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.

208 BUT WHAT REALLY MADE ME ANGRY IS WHERE ARE U.S.

209 COMPANIES.

210 NONE OF THIS IS MADE IN THE UNITED STATES.

211 AND IF THE GOVERNMENT REALLY WANTED TO HELP US THEY WOULD INCENTIVIZE 212 GENERAL ELECTRIC GENERAL MOTORS UNITED TECHNOLOGY BOEING TESLA TO GET BACK IN 213 THE TRANSPORTATION BUSINESS SO WE COULD BUY AMERICAN WHICH WOULD BE EVERYBODY'S 214 PREFERENCE.

215 OKAY.

216 THANK YOU.

217 BOARD MEMBER COLBOURNE.

218 YES.

219 THANK YOU.

220 GOOD MORNING.

221 I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW THE TRAVELS ON THIS DELEGATION WAS VERY 222 INTERESTING AND REALLY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO REALLY GET A BETTER 223 UNDERSTANDING OF TRAINS IN GENERAL.

224 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE FOR THEM TO SCHEDULE LUNCH AND DINNER TIME.

225 BUT WITH THAT SAID IT WAS A LITTLE HECTIC BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT WAS A GREAT 226 EXPERIENCE AND I AM REALLY PLEASED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN TERMS OF 227 A REGIONAL YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST EVERYBODY JUST DECIDES IN A DIFFERENT 228 SYSTEM AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL BE GOING FROM 229 FROM ONE COUNTY TO ANOTHER.

230 SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THINGS THAT WAY.

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231 THANK YOU.

232 THANK YOU.

233 SMALL CITIES REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON.

234 YES GOOD MORNING.

235 I THINK THAT ALL THIS INFORMATION WAS ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING.

236 I MEAN IT WAS A SCIENCE FICTION STORY WHEN I WAS A KID OR EVEN A GROWN UP AND 237 THE CHOICES THERE ARE ALL PHENOMENAL AND JUST AS ONE THING FROM AESTHETICS THAT 238 I NOTICED WAS ONE OF THE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION THAT WAS BUILT UP.

239 THEY HAD THE CONCRETE POLES ALL WRAPPED IN GREEN AND THEY HAD THE FLOWER PODS 240 HANGING FROM THE TOP AND ALSO NOT ONLY ARE THEY MOVING PEOPLE TO GET THEM 241 THERE FASTER BUT IT LOOKED A LOT NICER.

242 I ASSUME THAT WAS FROM OVER THERE RIGHT.

243 NOT IN MIAMI-DADE.

244 NO THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN CHINA.

245 AND YEAH I MEAN I THOUGHT THAT WAS WOW IF YOU'RE NOT LIKE GOING THROUGH CONCRETE 246 BARRIERS LIKE IN NEW YORK CITY SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST ALL AMAZING.

247 AND I'M SURE IT WAS JUST FASCINATING FOR YOU TO SEE IT IN PERSON BUT IT'S 248 AMAZING.

249 AND ACTUALLY THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT TH GREENERY THAT WAS THERE IT 250 LOOKED BEAUTIFULLY GREEN.

251 IT WAS ACTUALLY ALL ARTIFICIAL.

252 SO IT DIDN'T GROW INTO THE TRACKS.

253 THANK YOU.

254 BOARD MEMBER SHARIEF.

255 OH I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT THAT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SUNDAY BUT COMMISSIONER 256 BLATTNER IS OVER THERE PREACHING.

257 I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID.

258 THAT WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

259 AND AS FAR AS GOING AROUND I DIDN'T I WASN'T ABLE TO GO ON THIS TRIP BUT I HAVE 260 BEEN GOING AROUND THE UNITED STATES AND CHECKING OUT RAIL SYSTEMS BECAUSE AS 261 YOU KNOW WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SURTAX COMIN UP I WANTED TO MAKE SURE 262 THAT WHATEVER WE IMPLEMENT IT WAS GOING TO BE LONG TERM AND IT WAS GOING 263 TO BE GREAT FOR BROWARD COUNTY.

264 AND SO I THINK THAT THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY AND I TOTALLY AGREE.

265 IF WE'RE GOING TO CUT CHINA OUT OF IT WE HAVE TO INVEST IN THE AMERICAN MARKETS.

266 AND YOU KNOW GREAT JOB GREG.

267 THANK YOU.

268 THANK YOU.

269 AND I HAVE ALREADY FORGOTTEN THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO GIVE EVERYBODY A SAFETY WARNING 270 WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE THE EXITS ARE WHICH ARE LIT UP BEHIND YOU 271 IN CASE OF.

272 THERE'S TWO IN THE BACK AND ONE ON THE SIDE.

273 I THINK YOU SHOULD SHOW US THE SEATBELT RULES TOO.

274 AND THEN ALSO I HAVE A FEELING THAT THIS MAY HAVE BEEN DIRECTED FOR ME BUT I 275 SPOKE WITH MR. CLARK AND I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IS AS I LEAVE MY TRASH AND I PUT IT 276 BEHIND THE SCREEN WHEN I'M DONE EATING MY GRAPES.

277 BUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY SMALL TRASH CANS I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU THAT BECAUSE I 278 DON'T USE THEM THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOR YOU AS WELL.

279 AND BENEATH HERE SO YOU CAN LOCATE A GARBAGE CAN IF YO WANT TO GET RID OF 280 SOMETHING.

281 AND FINALLY I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE WE DO HAVE A NEW REPRESENTATIVE BOARD 282 MEMBER SIMMONS FROM CORAL SPRINGS.

283 HE'S OUR NEW MEMBER SO DEFINITELY WANT TO WELCOME HIM.

284 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

285 AND THEN NEXT UP IS GENERAL COUNSEL'S REPORT.

286 OH IT'S A HYPHEN ON HERE SORRY.

287 THAT'S ME ALL RIGHT.

288 THANK YOU.

289 CHAIRMAN BOARD MEMBERS.

290 WHAT I ALWAYS ANNOUNCE FIRST IS THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE 291 PRESENT.

292 I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TODAY AS STATUTE ALLOWS WE HAVE 25 293 MEMBERS WHO CAN VOTE AT ANY ONE TIME.

294 SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE RIGHT NOW TOTAL MEMBERS OF 38.

295 THOSE ARE ACTUAL PEOPLE PRESENT WHO REPRESENT A DIFFERENT ENTITY OF THAT 296 ENTITY THE MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVES WHICH ARE THE ALTERNATES AND THE 297 VOTING MEMBERS ARE 19 ACTUAL VOTING MEMBERS ALTERNATES OF 13.

298 AND THEN WE HAVE NON MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVES WHICH ARE 6 FOR THE TOTAL OF 299 38.

300 FORT LAUDERDALE HAS TWO VOTES.

301 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 27 MEMBERS PRESENT.

302 THAT MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE TWO WHO WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE YOU WILL VOTE BUT 303 YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS THE 25.

304 JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN THOSE TWO CITIES RIGHT AT THE MOMENT ARE PEMBROKE 305 PARK AND LIGHTHOUSE POINT.

306 AGAIN YOU DO VOTE BUT IT JUST DOESN'T VOTE IT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS A 25.

307 THANK YOU.

308 OK.

309 THANK YOU SIR.

[11. 2045 Metropolitan Transportation Plan (MTP) Updates: http://www.browardmpo.org/index.php/commitment-2045-metropolitan-transportation-plan]

310 NOW ON TO THE MTP UPDATE MR. GIES.

311 GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR.

312 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD PETER GIES SYSTEMS PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE BROWARD 313 METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

314 AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

315 IT'S BEEN ABOUT THREE MONTHS SINCE I'VE GIVEN YOU AN UPDATE I KNOW THERE WAS A 316 BREAK IN BETWEEN.

317 WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOING QUITE A BIT OF WORK ON OUR END.

318 SOME OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN ME COME BEFORE YOUR COMMISSIONS AND PRESENT ON 319 RESPECTIVE PROJECTS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN YOUR CITY OR IN YOUR TOWN 320 FOR THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

321 SO I REALLY JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH ONE OR TWO SIDES HERE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN 322 UPDATE ON WHERE WE STAND AT THE MOMENT WITH THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN.

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323 SO THROUGH THE SUMMER WE MET WITH EACH ONE OF THE CITIES WHO HAVE PROJECTS 324 IDENTIFIED IN THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN FOR THE MTP.

325 WE ASKED THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE CITIES OBTAIN RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FOR 326 PROJECTS THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE MOVE FORWARD AS PART OF THE MTP AND REMAIN IN 327 THE FINAL PLAN.

328 SO THOSE RESOLUTIONS WERE DUE YESTERDAY SEPTEMBER 11TH AND WE'VE RECEIVED 329 PRETTY MUCH ALL THE RESOLUTIONS FROM FOLKS AND AND I THINK MOST PROJECTS 330 ARE MOVING FORWARD WHICH IS GOOD.

331 THAT MEANS WE KIND OF DID OUR JOB AS FAR AS EXPLAINING THE PROJECTS THEMSELVES BUT 332 THAT WERE ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONS WHICH MEANS THAT YOU ALL 333 WANT THE CONGESTION RELIEF YOU WANT SOME TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS WHICH 334 OF COURSE IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT WE'R SPENDING MONEY FEDERAL AND 335 STATE DOLLARS IN YOUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL AND THROUGH THAT RESOLUTION YOU 336 HAVE A PLACEHOLDER FOR FUNDING FOR THOSE PROJECTS IN THE PLAN AS WE MOVE 337 FORWARD.

338 SO THE NEXT STEP IS FOR US TO FINALIZE THE COST FEASIBLE PLAN LOOK AT ALL 339 OF THE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT WE RECEIVED AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PROJECT 340 IN THE PLAN DOES HAVE A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE 341 MUNICIPALITY AND THAT WE ULTIMATELY PASS A PLAN THA EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE 342 FORWARD WITH WHEN IT COMES TO A PROJECT THAT IS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

343 NEXT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE ADOPTION SCHEDULE WE ARE 344 COMING TO THE END NOW WE'RE PROBABLY ABOUT 90 PERCENT THROUGH WE'VE AS STAFF HAVE 345 ALREADY REVIEWED ONE DRAFT OF THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN BUT WE 346 INTEND TO BRING THE VERY FIRST PUBLIC DRAFT TO THE TAC AND CAC IN OCTOBER OF 347 2019.

348 SO AT THE END OF OCTOBER YOUR TAC REPRESENTATIVES WILL SEE THAT FIRST DRAFT 349 THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK.

350 RIGHT AFTER THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER SO TWO MONTHS FROM NOW YOU WILL SEE THAT 351 SAME DRAFT HAVE THE ABILITY TO COMMENT PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK.

352 YOU'LL SEE THE FINAL COST FEASIBLE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

353 SO ALL YOUR PROJECTS WILL BE IN THERE AS WELL.

354 AND THEN DECEMBER OF 2019 WE HEAD TOWARDS ADOPTION.

355 SO WE'LL TAKE IN ALL THE COMMENTS MAKE THE REVISIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE 356 FINAL METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND BRING IT TO YOU ALL ON 357 DECEMBER 12TH FOR ADOPTION.

358 SO KEEP THOSE DATES IN MIND OF COURSE I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS COMMENTS THINGS 359 LIKE THAT.

360 SO FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME.

361 YOU CAN CALL ME.

362 YOU CAN SPEAK WITH GREG AND IF YOU'D LIKE ANY SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION 363 RELATED TO THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN PLEASE VISIT COMMITMENT2045.ORG 364 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

365 THANK YOU PETER.

366 MR. CHAIRMAN BEFORE I GO ON I ACTUALLY JUST SNAPPED A PICTURE.

367 MY APOLOGIES.

368 THERE MIGHT BE QUESTIONS BUT BEFORE THIS GOES AWAY I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS IN MY 12 369 YEARS OF BEING HERE.

370 THERE'S A GIANT RAINBOW BEHIND BEHIND ALL OF YOU.

371 AND IT'S A COMPLETE RAINBOW WHICH IS PRETTY AMAZING ALL IN AND OF ITSELF.

372 SO I SNAPPED THAT PICTURE.

373 I ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY WHEN I TRAVEL THE BROWARD 374 COUNTY AND ITS 31 CITIES REPRESENT EVERYTHING UNDER THE RAINBOW.

375 AND THERE IT IS.

376 OK WELL THANK YOU.

377 IT'S NOT A DOUBLE RAINBOW HOWEVER WE DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM DEPUTY VICE 378 CHAIR GOOD.

379 I HAD TO DO A SELFIE.

380 THAT'S OKAY.

381 YOU'RE EXCUSED.

382 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

383 JUST VERY QUICK.

384 I HAPPEN TO BE AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHERE ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS WAS WAS 385 BEING PRESENTED AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE COMPLIMENTS TO THE MPO STAFF.

386 MR. STUART FOR BEING ENGAGED AND JUST FOR US TO CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC 387 UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS.

388 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS OF CONCERN TO INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T KNOW 389 THE DETAILS AND EVERYBODY IS ABOUT THE DETAILS AND HO IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THEIR 390 COMMUNITY AND THEY MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE BIG PICTURE PROCESS.

391 SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE CONTINUE ON THAT EFFORT.

392 ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS 393 UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS KNOW THAT THEY'RE VALUED THEIR INPUT WOULD BE CONSIDERED 394 AND THAT WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ON THIS BOARD WITHOUT CONSIDERATION FROM 395 FROM THE PUBLIC.

396 SO I JUST I WANTED TO ASK MR. STUART TO JUST PLEASE TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN 397 THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND AS AS A CONSTANT REMINDER TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT WE 398 VALUE THEIR INPUT AND THEY WILL BE PART OF EVERY PROCESS THAT WE DO.

399 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IF I MAY JUST ADD.

400 ABSOLUTELY.

401 ALL RIGHT.

402 YOU'LL HAVE PALM CARDS IN FRONT OF YOU.

403 SO TO THAT POINT AS FAR AS THE DETAILS ARE CONCERNED THAT DRIVE YOU TO THE 404 COMMITMENT2045.ORG WEB SITE WE HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP ON THERE WE HAVE A 405 DESCRIPTION OF THE PROCESS.

406 WHAT PROJECTS WERE IDENTIFIED SO.

407 OH AND THERE'S ALSO SOME IN SPANISH AS WELL.

408 BUT DID YOU GET HANDED SOME IN SPANISH WE'RE JUST TESTING IT TO MAKE SURE THAT 409 WE WERE WE WERE IN LINE WITH ALL OF OUR TITLE SIX REQUIREMENTS SO WE'LL MAKE 410 SURE YOU GET AN ENGLISH ONE AS WELL.

411 BUT YES WE DO HAVE THEM IN SPANISH AS WELL.

412 SO WE'VE BEEN HANDING THESE OUT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY AND I THINK TO YOUR POINT 413 VICE CHAIR GOOD THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INFORM THE PUBLIC AS MUCH 414 AS POSSIBLE.

415 BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

416 BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT THE PROCESSES WE'RE DRAWING LINES ON A MAP AT THIS 417 POINT WE'VE IDENTIFIED NEEDS.

418 THERE'S MANY MORE STEPS TO GO THROUGH BEFORE A PROJECT ACTUALLY GETS IMPLEMENTED.

419 GRACIAS FOR YOUR YOUR SPANISH RENDITIONS.

420 THANK YOU.

421 ALL RIGHT.

422 THANK YOU.

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423 THAT'S ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE MOVING ON TO ITEM TWELVE WHICH IS THE

[12. MPO Surtax Services Update]

424 MPO SURTAX SERVICES UPDATE I BELIEVE MR. CROSS IS GOING TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW STAFF 425 MEMBERS AND ONE OF THEM IS A SUPPLICANT.

426 YES SIR.

427 THAT'S.

428 THAT IS CORRECT.

429 SO MR. CHAIR BILL CROSS BROWARD MPO STAFF.

430 I'M VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING PRESENTING TO YOU AN UPDATE ON THE MPO 431 SURTAX SERVICES.

432 SO AS MANY OF YOU KNOW WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COUNT CLOSELY OVER REALLY PRETTY 433 MUCH THE BETTER PART OF THE PAST YEAR IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROCESS STOOD UP.

434 AND SO TODAY WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE 435 TOWARDS SUPPORTING THE SURTAX AND THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS SELECTION PROCESS.

436 SO WHAT IS THE BROWARD MPO'S ROLE JUST AS A REMINDER.

437 IT'S DEFINED UNDER THE ORIGINAL SURTAX ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE INTER LOCAL 438 AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BETWEEN THE COUNTY OURSELVES AND ALL THE 439 MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL AS IN A SEPARATE AGREEMENT JUST BETWEEN US AND THE COUNTY.

440 SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO.

441 WELL WE'RE TASKED ON RANKING THE MUNICIPAL PROJECTS AS PART OF THE 442 SURTAX.

443 WE'RE GOING TO PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS BASED ON TWO KEY CRITERIA ONE IS 444 CONGESTION RELIEF.

445 AND THE OTHER IS CONNECTIVITY.

446 THE THIRD VALUE ADD THAT WE HOPE TO BRING TO THIS IS ALSO TO UNDERSTAND THE 447 PROJECT'S READINESS TO MOVE FORWARD SO THAT WHEN WE'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO 448 THE COUNTY WE ALSO CONSIDER WHERE THAT PROJECT IS AND IS IT READY TO MOVE FORWARD AS 449 FAR AS THE OVERALL MUNICIPAL SURTAX PROJECTS GO FOR THIS FIRST ROUND HERE 450 IN 2020.

451 WE'RE EXPECTING ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS A 452 VERY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT TO BE AVAILABLE.

453 OF COURSE THE COMMUNITY SHUTTLE WILL COME OFF THE TOP OF THAT.

454 AND THEN THERE WILL BE A RECOMMENDATION ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE 455 MUNICIPALITIES AND THEN DOLLARS THAT REMAIN AT THAT POINT WILL GO TOWARDS 456 FUNDING SOME OF THE MUNICIPAL REHABILITATION AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.

457 WHAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT LATER IN THE AGENDA TODAY WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER ITEMS 458 ACTION ITEMS RELATED TO THIS.

459 ONE OF THEM IS AMENDMENT 1 AND THAT'S TO THE OVERALL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE 460 MUNICIPALITIES OURSELVES AND THE COUNTY AND THAT'S GOING TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT 461 OF A CHANGE IN THAT IT SEPARATES OUT THE MAINTENANCE AND REHAB 462 PROJECTS RIGHT NOW.

463 ALL OF THEM ARE SUPPOSED TO COME THROUGH THE MPO BUT THIS IS A CHANGE THAT 464 THAT'S BROADLY SUPPORTED IT PULLS THE REHAB PROJECTS OUT AND ALLOWS THEM TO MOVE 465 FORWARD MORE QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET TO GET THINGS WORKING.

466 THAT WOULD LEAVE 506 PROJECTS THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE MPO.

467 OK.

468 SO THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR STAFF.

469 SO I'D LIKE TO ASK BOTH ANDREW RIDDLE AS WELL AS KERRIE MACNEIL TO COME UP TO 470 THE PODIUM SO I CAN INTRODUCE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY KERRIE.

471 THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ANDREW.

472 SO WE HAVE BEEN REAL BUSY OVER THE SUMMER GOING THROUGH A HIRING PROCESS.

473 SO WE'RE EXTREMELY PLEASED TO HAVE THEM BOTH ON BOARD TO HELP LEAD THIS EFFORT.

474 AGAIN THANKS TO THE COUNTY.

475 IT WAS GRETCHEN, ANGELA AND OTHERS PARTICIPATED THROUGH ALL THESE INTERVIEWS.

476 IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TOUGH PROCESS BUT WE GOT THROUGH WE'VE GOT A REALLY 477 GREAT TEAM HERE AND I'LL JUST MENTIONE THAT WE ARE ALSO BRINGING ON A 478 CONSULTING FIRM TO KIND OF LEVERAGE SOME OF OUR IN-HOUSE RESOURCES FOR THIS 479 BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIMEFRAME.

480 AND THAT'S ANOTHER ACTION ITEM THAT YOU'LL SEE THIS MORNING ON YOUR AGENDA.

481 SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO AGAIN WELCOME AND PASS IT TO ANDREW.

482 THANK YOU.

483 GOOD MORNING CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

484 MORNING IN ADDITION TO STAFFING THIS SURTAX SERVICES THE MPO HAS 485 DEVELOPED AN ONLINE TOOL THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED TO THAT IS.

486 I'M SORRY.

487 GO BACK.

488 TO SURTAX SERVICES SERVICES THE MPO HAS DEVELOPED AN ONLINE SUBMITTAL TOOL THAT 489 IS CURRENTLY BEING USED BY THE MUNICIPALITIES TO PROVIDE DETAILED PROJECT 490 INFORMATION.

491 THE MPO HELD A SURTAX WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 28 AND PROVIDED THE CITIES WITH 492 STEP BY STEP DEMONSTRATION ON THE ONLINE TOOL AND ALS AN OVERVIEW OF THE SURTAX 493 PROGRAM.

494 THE CITIES RECEIVED THE LINK TO THE ONLINE TOOL ON AUGUST 29TH AND HAS ACCESS 495 TO THE TOOL THROUGH SEPTEMBER 17TH.

496 AND STAFF HAS BEEN MONITORING THE PROGRESS ON THE TOOL.

497 AND AS OF THIS MORNING 30 PERCENT OF THE PROJECTS ARE EITHER IN PROGRESS OR 498 COMPLETE SO HERE IS A DRAFT TIMELINE OF SOME KEY MILESTONES THAT NEED TO BE

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499 ACHIEVED TO MEET THE DEADLINE FOR MARCH 1ST.

500 THE FIRST FEW MILESTONES THE ONLINE TOOL AND WORKSHOP ARE COMPLETE NOW THROUGH 501 DECEMBER THERE WILL BE SEVERAL ACTIVITIES THAT WILL BE RUNNING CONCURRENTLY 502 INCLUDING ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH MUNICIPAL STAFF, DEVELOP AND REFINE 503 THE PRIVATIZATION TOOL AND CONDUCT FIELD VISITS WITH CITY STAFF.

504 IN JANUARY WE WILL PRESENT THE INITIAL PROJECT RANKINGS TO THE COUNTY AND PROVIDE 505 THE FINAL PRIORITIZED LIST IN MARCH.

506 SO HERE ARE SOME NEXT STEPS.

507 THE MPO WILL BE WORKING WITH MUNICIPAL STAFF TO ENSURE THAT ALL RELEVANT 508 DETAIL PROJECT INFORMATION HAS BEEN PROVIDED IN THE ONLINE TOOL SO THAT THE 509 PROJECTS CAN BE EVALUATED PROPERLY.

510 WE WILL BE SCHEDULING ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF TO CLARIFY PROJECT 511 DETAILS SUCH AS LOCATION SCOPE AND PROJECT ASSUMPTIONS ASSUMPTIONS AND 512 WE WILL ALSO CONDUCT A FIELD REVIEW WITH CITY STAFF FOR THE TOP RATE PROJECTS 513 FOR FURTHER EVALUATION.

514 THE MPO WILL BE DEVELOPING A METHODOLOGY RANKING FOR THE PROJECTS AND AN APPROACH TO 515 A [INAUDIBLE] WHICH PROJECTS ARE PROGRAM READY OR SHOVEL READY.

516 THESE EFFORTS WILL BE COORDINATED THROUGH THE TAC MEMBERS AND IT IS VERY 517 IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE FULL PARTICIPATION AT THE TAC MEETINGS.

518 SO AS SOON AS WE START THE RANKING PROCESS AND DEVELOP THE METHODOLOGY WE CAN 519 START MOVING ON TO RANKING THE PROJECTS.

520 SO THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE SO FAR.

521 BUT KERRIE AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

522 OKAY I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE BUT I WILL I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.

523 THANK YOU ANDREW.

524 WELL THERE IS GONNA BE ONE AFTER ME.

525 I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNTY STAFF.

526 I KNOW ANGELA AND MS. CASSINI IS IN THE BACK AND ALSO THE EXECUTIVE 527 BOARD MEMBER ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT THE POLITICS HAS BEEN 528 COMPLETELY REMOVED.

529 THE GOAL OF THIS ORGANIZATION IS TO MOVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS 530 FORWARD FOR THE COUNTY FOR ALL OF OUR PEOPLE.

531 AND THAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED WHEN THESE RANKINGS OCCUR.

532 WE AREN'T ACTUALLY TAKING FORMAL ACTION ON IT BUT A MEMORANDUM OF SUMMARY WILL 533 ACTUALLY BE GIVEN TO THE BOARD AFTER THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE BY THE SURTAX 534 SERVICES.

535 AND ONE OF THE KEY THINGS IN HERE THAT I REALLY LIKE WAS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE 536 WHEN SOMETHING HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM EITHER CSLIP O FROM THE TIP THE 537 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN IT'S BEEN BECAUSE A FIELD VISIT ACTUALLY WAS 538 NOT PERFORMED BY THE CITY ASKING FOR THE GRANT.

539 AND SINCE WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT LATER ON AND IN THE 540 FUNDING PROJECT PHASE THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HICCUPS.

541 WE'VE DONE ALL OF THE RESEARCH IN ADVANCE AND SO DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.

542 SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE THINGS RUN SMOOTHER.

543 NEXT UP IS BOARD MEMBER CARN.

544 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR AND HELLO MR. RIDDLE.

545 I WANTED TO.

546 OUR CHAIR JUST MADE A REMARK AND I'M NEW AND I'M SURE I'M PROBABLY NOT THE 547 ONLY ONE WHO'S NOT EVER BEEN TO A RANKING CEREMONY.

548 I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CROWN PLACED ON ANY PROJECTS HEAD.

549 SO AND HE SAYS THAT ALL POLITICS HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PROCESS.

550 SO COULD YOU GIVE US SOME IDEA OF.

551 I'M SURE YOU DO THIS NOW.

552 YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A METHODOLOGY FOR THE SURTAX.

553 SO COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME EDUCATION ON THE BASELINE SHORT BRIEF AS BRIEF AS YOU 554 CAN AS TO WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE NOW AND WHAT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SHOULD 555 YOU HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO ADAPT THAT A PROCESS FOR THE SURTAX PROJECTS THAT 556 RANKING PROCESS.

557 YES.

558 SO WE'RE BUILDING OFF OF THE CSLIP PROCESS.

559 BUT WE ALSO WILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE CSLIP EVALUATION 560 PROCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO CRITERIA THAT WE NEED TO MEET RELIEVING CONGESTION 561 AND ALSO IMPROVING CONNECTIVITY.

562 AND THOSE THINGS THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED THROUGH THE TAC MEMBERS AND ALSO 563 OUR CONSULTANT TEAM WILL ALSO BE ASSISTING IN IN DEVELOPING THAT CRITERIA 564 FOR THE PROJECTS BEING RANKED.

565 COULD YOU GIVE ME WHAT CSLIP RANKING KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IN A NUTSHELL PLEASE.

566 SURE.

567 MIKE RONSKAVITZ.

568 GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

569 GOOD MORNING CHAIR.

570 CSLIP WE DEVELOP CSLIP AND WE'VE BEEN UPDATING IT FOR THE LAST THREE, FOUR YEARS 571 ACTUALLY AND IT WAS A NEW PROGRAM AND WE INTRODUCED OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND WHAT 572 IT DOES IS IT TAKES A LOOK AT THE PROJECT THAT'S SUBMITTED GEO CODES THE

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573 PROJECT PUTS IT IN A MAP FORM AND THEN PROVIDES A BUFFER AROUND IT AND IT 574 EVALUATES IT ON DIFFERENT CRITERIA.

575 AND RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS AT CONNECTIVITY.

576 IT LOOKS LIKE AT SAFETY CRASHES IT LOOKS AT ACTIVITY CENTERS AND BUT IT'S WITHIN 577 THE BUFFER FOR THAT.

578 SO IT'S ALL OBJECTIVE AND ASSIGNS A VALUE TO THOSE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND THEN 579 COMES UP WITH A RANKING.

580 IT'S NOT OH THIS PROJECT LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

581 SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT EXTRA POINTS.

582 NONE OF THAT'S INVOLVED THAT'S ALL OBJECTIVE.

583 BASED ON THE PROJECT THAT'S SUBMITTED THE BUFFER AND WHAT'S WITHIN THE BUFFER 584 AND THE ACTIVITY CENTERS BASED ON THE CRITERIA.

585 AND SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD OFF OF THAT FOR THE SURTAX.

586 AND SO YOU HAD SOME INTELLIGENCE TO DEVELOP TH ALGORITHMS TO MAKE THOSE 587 WEIGHTINGS CORRECT AT THE TIME.

588 WE HAD A CONSULTANT THAT HELPED US DEVELOP THAT THEN IT CAME TO THE MPO BOARD 589 SEVERAL TIMES FOR THE EVALUATION CRITERIA.

590 WE GOT APPROVAL ON THAT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CASE WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A 591 CONSULTANT THAT'S PART OF THE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE HERE BECAUSE 592 CSLIP WASN'T REALLY MEANT FOR THE VOLUME OF PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH 593 THROUGH THE SURTAX.

594 THERE WERE SMALLER PROJECTS AND USUALLY WE GET ABOUT 20 OF THEM.

595 WE'RE TALKING 500 PROJECTS.

596 SO IN THAT CRITERIA NEEDS TO BE TWEAKED WITH IT.

597 BUT IT'S ALL GONNA BE BASED ON THE CSLIP AND THAT OBJECTIVE PROCESS THAT WE 598 SET UP FOR IT.

599 THANK YOU.

600 I HOPE I HELPED YOU VICE CHAIR GOOD GET INFORMATION OUT THERE.

601 IT'S ALL ABOUT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION AND I'D AND I'VE ALWAYS NOT 602 BEEN AFRAID TO ASK THE THE QUESTION IN THE CLASS THAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO ASK.

603 THANK YOU.

604 THANK YOU.

605 COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE FURR.

606 THANK YOU.

607 FIRST I WANT TO THANK GREG AND GRETCHEN AND ALL FOR THE I HAD A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT 608 WAS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES TO KIND OF PULL THIS TOGETHER AND THIS ENTIRE 609 PROCESS.

610 THIS IS A LEAP OF FAITH.

611 IT REALLY IS THE FACT THAT WE YOU KNOW WHEN WE DECIDE TO GO OUT FOR SURTAX AND 612 ASKED ALL THE CITIES TO SUBMIT ALL THE ALL THE PLANS THAT THEY WANTED TO 613 PUT IN.

614 AND WE.

615 AND FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE TO SAY WE CAN DO THIS AND THE MPO 616 BOARD CAN DO THIS AND THEY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE THESE TOGETHER 617 AND THEN WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER.

618 THAT'S A LEAP OF FAITH ON ALL OUR PART.

619 IT REALLY IS.

620 THE FACT THAT BECAUSE IT'S YOU KNOW ALL OF US WANT OUR OUR OWN PROJECT TO GO FIRST.

621 WE KNOW THAT.

622 BUT THE FACT IS WE ARE AS A BOARD ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT ARE THE 623 NEEDS OF THE REGION.

624 WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.

625 AND WE'RE GOING AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK OUT OUR NEIGHBOR TO OUR BOTH 626 SIDES AND SAY YOU KNOW I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO HELP 627 ALL OF US.

628 AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS THIS IS FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION AND I APPRECIATE 629 IT.

630 I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL WELCOME WELCOME ABOARD.

631 THIS IS A HUGE STEP AND I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE IT HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE 632 TRYING TO PUT THE WHOLE SURTAX TOGETHER THIS WAS A MAJOR ELEMENT OF IT.

633 AND I KNOW YOU KNOW WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING TO DO THIS AND CITIES WERE KIND 634 OF WANTING TO MAKE SURE THEY GOT 10 PERCENT.

635 IT'S ACTUALLY 23 PERCENT.

636 SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT 23 PERCENT IS WHAT THESE PROJECTS ADD UP TO.

637 IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IS COMING INTO 638 THIS AND THE FACT THAT THE NEXT THING WE'RE ABOUT TO DISCUSS IS ANOTHER LEAP OF 639 FAITH OF WHEN THE MAYOR WHEN MAYOR BOGEN HAD CALLE A CONFERENCE OF ALL THE 640 MAYORS AND ASKED WHAT WHAT ISSUE DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH THE SURTAX AND YOUR 641 CONCERN THAT SOME OF THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE IN YEAR 30 AND FOR GOOD REASON 642 FOR GOOD REASON YOU'RE THINKING THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MAINTENANCE 643 PROJECTS AND YOU'RE THINKING WELL THIS ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TILL 20 50 AND BUT 644 AND YOU AND YOU ARGUED AND FOR THE FACT THAT WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THESE ARE THINGS 645 THAT COULD BE DONE NOW.

646 TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THAT AND WE ARE TAKING YOU KNOW AS A BOARD 647 TODAY WE'RE TAKING ANOTHER LEAP OF FAITH AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING 648 211 PROJECTS ON THE FRONT BURNER AND GETTING THEM DONE NOW IN ALL THE CITIES.

649 SO THIS I APPLAUD THIS.

650 THIS WAS A I KNOW THIS WAS TOUGH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TOOL WAS THAT 651 WOULD WHAT WOULD HELP FOR TO MAKE FOR PRIORITIZATION WAS NOT EASY BUT I THINK 652 PULLING THE USING THE CSLIP WAS A SMART MOVE BECAUSE IT WAS ONE THAT WE 653 ALL KNEW AND WE KNEW IT WORKED.

654 SO I'M THRILLED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TODAY AND THANK YOU.

655 ALL RIGHT.

656 THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.

657 MR. RIDDLE.

[ CONSENT ITEMS (All Items Open for Public Comment)]

658 OK SO NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE CONSENT ITEM THERE ARE TWO ITEMS.

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659 IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO PULL ONE OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. 660 IS THERE A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD THAT WISHES TO PULL ONE OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. 661 ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE I GUESS WE WILL MOVE THE CONSENT ITEM IF I CAN GET A 662 MOTION AND A SECOND IT'S BEEN MOTION AND SECONDED.

663 ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE.

664 WE'RE READY SO PLEASE VOTE ON APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA OK IT WAS APPROVED 665 UNANIMOUSLY.

666 REGARDLESS OF WHO CAN AND CANNOT VOTE IT WAS APPROVED BY TWENTY FIVE VOTES.

667 SINCE THERE WERE NO DISSENTING VOTES GOING ON TO THE ACTION ITEMS.

[1. MOTION TO APPROVE a First Amendment to Transportation System Surtax Interlocal Agreement]

668 ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE GENERAL COUNSEL IF YOU WILL READ THAT TO THE BOARD.

669 THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM 670 SURTAX IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT.

671 ALL RIGHT MR. CROSS.

672 THANK YOU CHAIR.

673 SO THIS IS AN AGREEMENT AS I MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOU PRESENTATION IT RELATES TO 674 THE SURTAX.

675 THIS IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THAT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MUNICIPALITIES THE 676 COUNTY AND OURSELVES.

677 IT HAS ALREADY GONE TO MANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MORE 678 THAN 50 PERCENT OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE NOW SIGNED ON TO THIS.

679 IT'S MOST SIGNIFICANTLY REMOVES THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS FROM 680 THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE MPO FOR RANKING AND ALLOWS THOSE TO MOVE 681 FORWARD ON A MORE EXPEDITED PATH.

682 IT WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR PROJECTS TO BE SWAPPED OUT AND POTENTIALLY ADDED AND 683 CHANGED MOVING FORWARD NOT THE FIRST YEAR BUT BUT MOVING FORWARD AND THESE 684 WERE CHANGES THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES GENERALLY SUPPORTED AND STAFF 685 RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL.

686 GREAT.

687 DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS.

688 ALL RIGHT SEEING NONE I GUESS WE'RE READY TO MOVE THIS ITEM.

689 ALL RIGHT.

690 WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

691 ARE WE READY.

692 OKAY.

693 PLEASE VOTE ON ACTION ITEM 1.

694 OH YOU CAN PUSH YES.

695 IT'S BEING RECORDED.

696 OK.

697 IT IS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

698 WE'RE MOVING ON TO ACTION AGENDA ITEM TWO.

699 GENERAL COUNSEL IF YOU WILL READ THAT BY TITLE.

[2. MOTION TO APPROVE the Draft Surtax Services GPC Task Work Order No. S1 in an Amount Not to Exceed $469,565.40 in Surtax Funding]

700 YES SIR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DRAFT SURTAX SERVICES GPC TASK WORK ORDER NUMBER 701 S1 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $469,565.40 IN SURTAX FUNDING.

702 ALL RIGHT MR. CROSS.

703 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

704 BILL CROSS.

705 MPO STAFF.

706 SO AGAIN THIS RELATES TO THE SURTAX AND STANDING UP OUR EFFORTS IN ORDER TO 707 LEVERAGE THE IN-HOUSE STAFF THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THE SHORT PERIOD OUR FIRST DUE 708 DATE IS MARCH 1ST FOR DELIVERY OF THE FIRST ROUND OF SELECTED AND PRIORITIZED 709 PROJECTS.

710 WE ARE BRINGING ON SOME CONSULTANT SERVICES.

711 THESE ARE THROUGH OUR GENERAL PLANNING CONSULTANT A LIBRARY OF PREVIOUSLY 712 SELECTED FIRMS SO WE DO OUR LITTLE IN-HOUSE PROCESS OF ALLOWING THOSE FIRMS TO 713 COMPETE.

714 KIMLEY-HORN WAS THE SELECTED FIRM AND WE HAVE DRAFTED UP WORK TO SUPPORT 715 THE INITIAL PRIORITIZATION AS WELL AS BRINGING ON A LICENSED ENGINEER TO HELP 716 WITH THE FIELD REVIEW AND WORKING WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES IN HELPING 717 ENSURE THAT THEIR PROJECTS OR ARE READY TO GO.

718 OKAY.

719 THANK YOU.

720 WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS WITH QUESTIONS WE'LL START WITH FORMER CHAIR 721 BLATTNER.

722 THIS IS PROBABLY OUT TO THE SIDE OF THIS ITEM BUT CITIES HAVE ASKED INCLUDING MINE 723 WHETHER AN AGREEMENT COULD BE MADE WITH WITH BROWARD COUNTY TO ADVANCE FUND 724 PROJECTS THE DOLLARS AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED BUT I'M CURIOUS OF WHETHER 725 THERE HAS BEEN ANY REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S POSSIBLE AND HOW IT 726 MIGHT WORK.

727 THROUGH THE CHAIR OR CAN WE.

728 YES ABSOLUTELY.

729 I THINK WE'RE GONNA BRING UP MS. CASSINI TO RESPOND TO THAT WELCOME.

730 THANK YOU.

731 GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

732 YES WE'VE HAD MANY MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT THIS.

733 IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT WAS 734 VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS DRAFTED THERE CAN BE NO 735 EXPENDITURES MADE UNTIL THE OVERSIGHT BOARD HAS APPROVED IT.

736 SO SINCE NO PROJECTS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND THEY CANNOT BE 737 TAKEN TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD UNTIL AFTER THE SURTA FUNDED MPO STAFF SENDS THEM

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738 OVER IN MARCH.

739 IN THIS FIRST YEAR NO REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES OR ADVANCED FUND REIMBURSEMENT 740 IS POSSIBLE.

741 HOWEVER ONCE A FIVE YEAR PLAN IS CREATED IT'S TAKEN TO THE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

742 LET'S SAY A HOLLYWOOD PROJECT ISN'T FUNDED UNTIL YEAR THREE OF THAT FIVE YEAR 743 PLAN.

744 BUT THE CITY OF HOLLYWOOD WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE THAT PROJECT ON THEIR OWN DIME.

745 THEN THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE REIMBURSEMENT FOR WHATEVER COSTS WERE 746 ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROVED PROJECT WHEN WE GOT TO YEAR THREE.

747 SO THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAYS AROUND THE REIMBURSEMENT QUESTION THAT 748 WE FOUND THAT WOULD BE LEGAL UNDER OUR ORDINANCE.

749 THANK YOU.

750 YOU'RE WELCOME.

751 ALL RIGHT THANK YOU.

752 BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS.

753 YES.

754 ON THIS SURTAX PROGRAM WE HAVE A 30 PERCENT COUNTY BUSINESS ENTERPRISE GOAL.

755 HOW ARE WE CARRYING THAT OUT THROUGH THIS SELECTION OF THESE CONSULTANTS.

756 IS THAT IN PLAY.

757 THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND WE HAVE OUR OWN GOALS AND GUIDELINES SO I'M GONNA 758 SAY THAT.

759 GREG ARE YOU GOING JUMP IN.

760 YEAH I'M GONNA JUMP IN.

761 COUNTY STAFF IS WILLING TO HELP ANSWER.

762 PLEASE.

763 THANK YOU.

764 OKAY.

765 WELCOME.

766 GOOD MORNING.

767 ANGELA WALLACE WITH BROWARD COUNTY THE CBE GOALS ARE ASSIGNED DURING THE 768 CONTRACTING PROCESS.

769 SO THE IT'S NOT PART OF THE MPO'S PRIORITIZATION OF TH MUNICIPAL PROJECTS BUT IN 770 THE EVENT THAT THE MUNICIPALITIES ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH VENDORS TO 771 PROVIDE SERVICES WITH SURTAX FUNDS IT WILL BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY 772 UTILIZE THE COUNTY CBE PROGRAM AND GO THROUGH OESBD OR THE OFFICE OF 773 ECONOMIC AND SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND UTILIZE 774 CERTIFIED CBES.

775 THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATION.

776 BUT I STILL LEFT WANTING MORE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HIRE POSSIBLY KIMLEY-HORN 777 AND ASSOCIATES.

778 YES THAT'S A CONTRACT RIGHT.

779 SO THAT'S THE CONTRACT.

780 IS THERE IS THERE PROVISION FOR THEM TO BRING CBE AS A PART OF THIS.

781 COMMISSIONER THANK YOU.

782 THAT AGAIN GREAT QUESTION.

783 WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS OF I WANT TO SAY 17 PERCENT.

784 WE ALWAYS PUSH PAST THAT AND WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY FOR PUSHING PAST 785 THAT.

786 SO WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE POSSIBLY CAN WITH KIMLEY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO THAT.

787 I HEAR THAT.

788 BUT THE GOAL THAT THE COUNTY VOTED ON IS 30 PERCENT AND THAT IS WHAT I'M EXPECTED 789 TO SEE HAPPEN.

790 COMMISSIONER, ALAN GABRIEL.

791 SO WITH REGARD TO THE PROCESS THAT THE MPO FOLLOWS WE'RE OBLIGATED TO 792 FOLLOW THE MPO PROCESS.

793 THE DOCUMENTS ALL PROVIDE THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT 794 THE MPO HAS IN PLACE.

795 SO WE'RE FOLLOWING THE MPO PROCUREMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS TO ACHIEVE THE 796 GOALS AND WHATEVER WORK WE'RE DOING ON BEHALF OF TH COUNTY OR ANY OTHER CITY 797 THAT WE MIGHT PROCEED ON.

798 SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS IT THE COUNTY MAY HAVE THOSE GOALS.

799 WE HAVE OUR OWN THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THROUGH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS 800 FOR THE MPO.

801 IT DOESN'T QUITE MEET THE 30 PERCENT IT WILL REACH THAT AS YOU HEARD FROM YOUR 802 COUNCIL WHEN YOU ACTUALLY START DOING WORK.

803 BUT AS IT RELATES TO THIS WORK THIS FUNCTION IT'S THE MPO RULES AND REGULATIONS 804 THAT WE ARE PROCEEDING UNDER.

805 MR. WALLACE WANT TO ADD BECAUSE I'M STILL NOT THERE YET.

806 SO WHEN WE WERE NEGOTIATING THE CONTRACT WITH THE MPO T PROVIDE THE RANKING 807 SERVICES WITH THE COUNTY WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE USE OF SUBS OR CONSULTANTS SO WE 808 DID NOT INCLUDE A PROVISION IN THE MPO CONTRACT REGARDING CONSULTANTS WE 809 ADDRESSED HIRING OF STAFF AND SURTAX TAX FUNDED STAFF WITH THE MPO BECAUSE IT WAS 810 GOING TO BE DONE INTERNALLY.

811 AND I GUESS THIS ALL AROSE BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIMEFRAME REMAINING FOR THE 812 MPO TO COMPLETE THE PRIORITIZATION IN THE FIRST YEAR.

813 BY MAY.

814 SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS BECAUSE WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS.

815 OKAY SO THEN SINCE WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT, CAN WE REVISIT THAT AGREEMENT TO 816 MAKE AN AMENDMENT SO THAT THE WILL OF THE NINE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WHO VOTED AND 817 THE PROMISE WE MADE WE MADE TO THE PEOPLE OF BROWARD COUNTY THAT I WENT OUT WHEN 818 WE WERE DOING THIS AND PROMISED OUR SMALL BUSINESSES THAT THEY WOULD 819 GET OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THIS AT 30 PERCENT.

820 SO I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE WHO MADE A FALSE PROMISE TO TO THE PEOPLE OF BROWARD 821 COUNTY.

822 SO IF THE MPO CAN'T ADJUST THIS POLICY I THINK WE OUGHT TO LOOK TO SEE HOW HE 823 CAN ADJUST THEM.

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824 AND THAT WE REVISIT THE CONTRACT AND MAKE A REVISION AND AN ADJUSTMENT FOR IT.

825 COMMISSIONER HOLNESS SO WE'RE USING THE MPO'S LIBRARY TO PROCEED TO BE 826 ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GO FORWARD QUICKLY.

827 WE THAT LIBRARY TERM EXPIRES IN TWO YEARS WE WILL BE GOING BACK OUT 828 AGAIN.

829 WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT TO THE EXTENT OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE 830 HAVING TODAY THAT WE CAN ADDRESS IT FOR YOU IN THE COUNTY.

831 AND I'M GOING TO INTERJECT AND IN REALITY I DON'T THINK THE AMENDMENT OF THE 832 CONTRACT IS WHAT WE NEED.

833 WHAT WE REALLY NEED IS IF THIS IS A GOAL FOR YOU THAT YOU WANT TO SET FOR THIS 834 ORGANIZATION THEN HAVE YOURSELF APPEAR BEFORE THE EXECUTIVE BOARD AND MOVE 835 THAT ITEM SO THAT WAY WE CAN SYSTEMATICALLY CHANGE ALL OF THE CONTRACTS THAT 836 ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE MPO NOT JUST THOSE RELATED TO THE SURTAX.

837 I'M NOT HERE SAYING THAT THE MPO HAS TO CHANGE HIS POLICIES FOR WHAT YOU DO.

838 IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR SMALL LOCAL 839 BUSINESSES.

840 BUT WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY PROMISED AND TAKEN A VOTE 841 TO THE PEOPLE OF BROWARD COUNTY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A GOAL PUT IN PLACE AND 842 THERE'S A GOAL IN PLACE FOR 30 PERCENT.

843 WHEN WE SPEND THE SURTAX SURTAX DOLLARS IN CONTRACT AND OPPORTUNITIES.

844 SO THAT'S THE ONLY PIECE THERE.

845 I MEAN YES I COME BACK BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN WITH WHETHER OR NOT 846 OTHER MEMBERS OF THE MPO WANT TO GO TO 30 PERCENT FOR THE GOALS SET ON A BROAD 847 BASIS BY THE MPO.

848 I'M SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING TO THE ISSUE OF THE SURTAX [INAUDIBLE] THAT IS IS A TAX 849 THAT'S REGRESSIVE AND SMALL BUSINESSES NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY ON 850 THIS SO THAT WE CAN SPREAD THESE DOLLARS OUT BROADLY S THOSE LOW INCOME PEOPLE WHO 851 MANY WORK ONLY SMALL BUSINESSES GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME OF 852 YOUR TAX DOLLARS BACK.

853 MR. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR I THINK I UNDERSTAND FULLY WHAT THE BOARD MEMBER IS 854 SAYING.

855 WHAT IS WHAT ACTION WOULD YOU RECOMMEND HERE.

856 TURN TO THE GENERAL COUNSEL BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY THE STANDARD CONTRACT 857 LANGUAGE.

858 SO IF WE WERE WE CAN INQUIRE OF THE C O N TRACTOR KIMLEY-HORN TO 859 SEE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND GIVE US GIVE US MORE PERCENTAGES 860 FOR THIS CONTRACT.

861 BUT IF WE STOP NOW THEN WE WE AREN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCEED AND DO ANYTHING 862 WITH REGARD TO THE SURTAX AND THIS PARTICULAR WORK WHICH IS NOT TO THE BENEFIT 863 OF ANYONE BECAUSE ANY OF OUR CONTRACT WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT INTO THE FIELD AND 864 THE RFQS AND START THAT WHOLE PROCESS OVER TO SATISFY THAT ONE ISSUE 865 WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.

866 BUT WE CAN WE I BELIEVE THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS WILLING TO ACKNOWLEDGE 867 THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

868 WE SHOULD TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT AND WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN TO SEE IF IT CAN BE 869 ACHIEVED WITH THIS CONTRACT AND ANY OTHERS IN THE FUTURE RELATING TO THE 870 SURTAX.

871 BUT THIS ONE IS ALREADY IN PLAY.

872 LET'S SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN GET OUT OF IT.

873 I AGREE THE MAXIMUM BUT GOING FORWARD I DON'T EXPECT ANOTHER ONE THAT 874 COMES UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS KIND O DISCUSSION.

875 ACTUALLY AND VALID.

876 WHAT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO SO THAT WHEN THE DISCUSSION ISN'T THERE IS 877 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROCUREMENT RULES.

878 I'LL DO THAT WITH THE ATTORNEY AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR 879 SPECIFIC TO COUNTY SURTAX FUNDING.

880 THAT THAT BASICALLY IS WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

881 GLAD.

882 ONE MORE PROBLEM SOLVED.

883 COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE FURR.

884 REAL QUICK TO THE COMMISSIONER'S POINT I THIN FOR CITIES TO RECOGNIZE 885 WHAT THIS ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS YOU SHOULD BE THINKING I TERMS OF ALL YOUR 886 MAINTENANCE PROJECTS EACH ONE.

887 HOW CAN I MAKE SURE I GET AT LEAST 30 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE THE BUSINESSES ARE 888 IN MY CITY.

889 HOW CAN I.

890 HOW CAN I GET BUSINESS AND STEER BUSINESS TO THEM.

891 THAT'S WHAT THIS IS KIND OF TRYING TO DO.

892 THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW AS A COUNTY WE'VE WE'VE.

893 WE WANTED TO SEE THE BUSINESSES IN BROWARD COUNTY GET THESE JOBS.

894 I THINK ALL OF US WANT TO SEE THAT.

895 THESE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE WE REPRESENT.

896 SO WHAT YOU THINK WHAT THE CITIES MIGHT WANT TO BE CERTAIN THINKING IN TERMS OF 897 WHATEVER JOBS YOU WHATEVER PROJECT PROJECTS YOU'VE GOT GOING GET THAT LIBRARY 898 TOGETHER AS QUICK AS YOU CAN.

899 SO WHEN YOU GET THE MONEY YOU CAN START TO STEER THAT MONEY TOWARD YOUR OWN TOWARD 900 YOUR OWN BUSINESSES.

901 AND THE 30 PERCENT RULE IS THAT IS THAT IS OUR GOAL.

902 THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT CAN'T BE MET.

903 IT IS A GOOD FAITH EFFORT.

904 SO AS IN EVERY EVERYWHERE WE CAN MEET THAT LET'S DO IT.

905 THERE ARE THERE ARE GONNA BE TIMES WHERE WE CAN'T.

906 I BELIEVE THAT OUR STAFF HAS NOTED THAT.

907 BOARD MEMBER LAZAROW.

908 THANK YOU.

909 I'M SORRY.

910 MY APOLOGIES.

911 THANK YOU CHAIR CALETKA.

912 I MISSED THE I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOUNG LADY BUT THE YOUNG LADY'S NAME FROM THE 913 COUNTY NOT MS CASSINI THE OTHER YOUNG WOMAN.

914 MS. 915 WALLACE.

916 THANK YOU MS WALLACE REFERRED TO THE TWO EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN 917 HIRED ALREADY WITH THE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WITH THE SURTAX.

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918 CORRECT THERE HAS BEEN.

919 YES TWO MPO EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN HIRED THEY'RE COUNTY FUNDED THROUGH THE SURTAX.

920 YES.

921 SO WHY ARE WE GOING OUT FOR TWO MORE FOR HALF A MILLION.

922 ACTUALLY IT'S NOT FOR TWO MORE EMPLOYEES.

923 ACTUALLY BILL MR. CROSS.

924 I UNDERSTAND IT'S TWO MORE RANKING TWO MORE RANKING FIRMS. 925 CORRECT.

926 KIMLEY-HORN AND.

927 THROUGH THE CHAIR.

928 YES ABSOLUTELY.

929 OK.

930 SO LET ME TRY TO RESPOND.

931 SO THE WAY THE CONTRACT WAS STRUCTURED WITH THE COUNTY THERE IS A A VERY LARGE 932 EFFORT IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO STAND UP THE PROGRAM THE FIRST YEAR 933 AND THEN AFTER THAT FIRST YEAR YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF LEVELS OUT AND IT IS MORE 934 CONSISTENT.

935 SO THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WE SIGNED FOR MPO SERVICES WITH THE COUNTY IS 936 AT ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR FOR CONTINUING SERVICES.

937 AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THE DOLLARS THAT ARE USED FOR THE IN-HOUSE STAFF TO 938 CONTINUOUSLY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

939 THAT CONTRACT ALSO UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS LARGE EFFORT TO DEVELOP THE 940 INITIAL TOOL.

941 THAT'S A SHORT TERM EFFORT.

942 YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO HIRE STAFF FOR.

943 IT'S A SIX MONTH EFFORT.

944 AND SO THE AGREEMENT ALSO ALLOWS FOR ANOTHER PAYMENT OF ABOUT A HALF A MILLION 945 DOLLARS FOR STARTUP FEES.

946 AND SO IT'S THAT INITIAL PAYMENT FOR THE STARTUP FEES THAT WE'RE USING LARGELY TO 947 PAY FOR THESE CONSULTANT SERVICES TO PUT TOGETHER THE TOOLS AND THE ANALYSIS AND 948 HELP US WORK WITH THE THE EXISTING STAFF THE INTERNAL STAFF TO DEVELOP THE NEW 949 PROCESSES THE METRICS AND ALSO GO OUT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS 950 WITH EACH OF THE MUNICIPALITIES TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS.

951 THIS ALSO ALLOWS US TO BRING IN A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO GO OUT AND AGAIN ONE ON 952 ONE MEET WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTORS OF EACH MUNICIPALITY TO TALK ABOUT 953 THE PROJECTS AND TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IS THIS THING.

954 IS THIS WELL THOUGHT OUT.

955 IS IT READY TO GO.

956 SO THESE ARE SHORT TERM SERVICES TO HELP STAND UP THE PROGRAM.

957 OK.

958 THANK YOU.

959 THANK YOU.

960 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD.

961 YES.

962 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

963 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER HOLNESS'S COMMENTS AND I THINK IT 964 WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE CAN BE PROVIDED ANY DOCUMENTATION THAT 965 DELINEATES THAT 30 PERCENT GOAL IT WILL HELP US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS 966 ADVOCATED FOR BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH THIS SURTAX.

967 AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN COLLABORATION I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT 968 WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF.

969 AND SO I WOULD APPRECIATE AT LEAST AS ONE MEMBER FROM THIS MPO TO GET ANY 970 INFORMATION THAT THAT CAN HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT AND IF IT AND I 971 CERTAINLY SUPPORT WHAT COMMISSIONER HOLNESS WAS SAYING.

972 SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE CAN.

973 IF IT WAS MENTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH THE SURTAX THEN WE AS A AS A GROUP 974 SHOULD TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO ADHERE TO IT.

975 ALL RIGHT.

976 THANK YOU MR. STUART.

977 YOU'VE GOT YOUR DIRECTION FOR HER REQUEST.

978 OK.

979 THANK YOU.

980 AND BACK TO BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS.

981 YES THANK YOU.

982 LET ME LET ME SAY THAT OUR OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT I'M 983 SURE WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO ASSIST MR. SANDY-MICHAEL MCDONALD.

984 WE ALREADY HAVE A LARGE DATABASE OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE CERTIFIED AS SMALL 985 BUSINESSES IN BROWARD COUNTY.

986 IT'S NOT VERY HARD FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO HIM AND TO GET THOSE LISTS AND TO GET 987 THOSE SPECIALTIES THAT YOU MIGHT NEED IN ORDER FOR US TO MEET THAT 30 PERCENT.

988 AND CERTAINLY I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE WILL NOT NECESSARILY HAVE 989 SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE EMPHASIS ON SMALL BUSINESS BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE MOST 990 OF OUR WOMAN AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS ARE LOCATED WHERE RACE AND GENDER 991 NEUTRAL.

992 IN TERMS OF OUR GOALS HOWEVER MOST OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS DISADVANTAGED 993 BUSINESS WOMEN AND MINORITY BUSINESS ARE IN THAT CATEGORY.

994 SO WHEN WE CAN'T REACH THE 30 PERCENT.

995 YEAH.

996 WE'RE TRYING BUT WE MUST MAKE IT.

997 WE MUST MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO AND AT TIMES WHEN WE CAN EXCEED IT THERE ARE TIMES 998 WHEN 100 PERCENT OF WHAT WE LET CAN BE TO A SMALL BUSINESS IN BROWARD COUNTY 999 SOMETIMES MIGHT ONLY BE 10 PERCENT.

1000 AND MAYBE THERE IS A SPECIALTY THAT WE CAN'T FIND SOMEONE AND IT MIGHT BE 1001 NOT BUT IF WE DON'T MAKE THE EFFORT AND IF WE'RE NO COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT 1002 THIS GOAL IS IN PLACE AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT HAPPEN.

1003 WE'RE GOING TO SAY WELL WE MADE BEST EFFORT A GOOD EFFORT.

1004 WELL LET'S LET'S LET'S LET'S REACH IT ON THIS ONE.

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1005 I THINK WE CAN AND I FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL SUPPORT.

1006 I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY FORMAL ACTION BUT IF WE CAN JUST DO A THUMBS UP IN 1007 SUPPORT OF BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED IT LOOKS LIKE WE 1008 GOT PRETTY MUCH UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.

1009 SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT WE AGREE AND SOME PEOPLE CHEATED AND VOTED 1010 TWICE.

1011 OKAY.

1012 LOOKS LIKE 1013 THREE.

1014 ALL RIGHT.

1015 IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEBATE HAS ENDED ON ACTION AGENDA ITEM 2.

1016 FORMER CHAIR BLATTNER.

1017 JUST FOR CLARIFICATION THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 30 PERCENT ON ANY 1018 PROJECT AND 30 PERCENT OVERALL AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.

1019 SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT EVERY PROJECT WOULD HAVE 30 1020 PERCENT BUT I THINK IT IS A GOAL ON ALL PROJECTS THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED TO 1021 COMMISSIONER HOLNESS AND THE REST OF US.

1022 WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

1023 YEAH I KNOW BUT NOT AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL FOR ALL PROJECTS OR EACH INDIVIDUAL 1024 PROJECT.

1025 RIGHT.

1026 IT'S A GOOD GOAL IN GENERAL.

1027 I THINK EVERYBODY IS ON BOARD WITH THE POLICY.

1028 BEFORE WE MOVE THIS ITEM GENERAL COUNSEL I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF NEW 1029 NOT NEW BUT A COUPLE OF MEMBERS JOIN US.

1030 CAN YOU TELL US BEFORE WE TAKE THIS VOTE WHOSE VOTE WILL COUNT AND WHOSE VOTE 1031 WILL NOT.

1032 WELL WE CURRENTLY HAVE 30 MEMBERS PRESENT WITH 30 TH FOLLOWING CITIES VOTES.

1033 AGAIN EVERYONE VOTES BUT THESE VOTES WON'T COUNT TOWARDS THE 25 TOTAL 1034 ALLOWED.

1035 THE 30 WOULD BE COOPER CITY, PARKLAND, WILTON MANORS, LIGHTHOUSE POINT 1036 AND PEMBROKE PARK.

1037 OKAY.

1038 THANK YOU.

1039 ARE WE READY TO MOVE THIS ITEM.

1040 I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR ACTION ITEM 2.

1041 ALL RIGHT.

1042 IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

1043 ARE WE READY FOR A VOTE? 1044 PLEASE VOTE.

1045 ALL RIGHT.

1046 IT HAS BEEN UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED ACTION ITEM THREE.

[3. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE the MPO Chair, Executive Director, and/or General Counsel to Execute an Interlocal Agreement for Transportation Planning Services with the City of Fort Lauderdale]

1047 GENERAL COUNSEL IF YOU'LL READ IT BY TITLE.

1048 THIS IS A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE MPO CHAIR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND OUR 1049 GENERAL COUNSEL TO EXECUTE AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT FO TRANSPORTATION PLANNING 1050 SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE.

1051 THANK YOU.

1052 MR. CHAIR.

1053 OK.

1054 SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ENTERING INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF 1055 FORT LAUDERDALE TO PROVIDE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING SERVICES AND 1056 HIGHER CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE FUNDED EMPLOYEES FOR THEM BASICALLY TO WORK 1057 ON THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ON A REGIONAL BASIS 1058 TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CONNECT INTO THE REGIONAL SYSTEM.

1059 AS THINGS MOVE FORWARD AND WITH THAT I DON'T KNOW IF MAYOR TRANTALIS WOULD LIKE 1060 TO TAKE IT FROM THERE.

1061 IF YOU PUT IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER IT'S [INAUDIBLE].

1062 YES.

1063 OKAY GREAT.

1064 BOARD MEMBER BOARD MEMBER TRANTALIS YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

1065 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1066 GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

1067 THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE WITH THE MPO AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OVER 1068 A PERIOD OF TIME TO TRY TO CREATE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE FEEL WILL BENEFIT BOTH THE 1069 MPO AND THE CITY.

1070 WE'VE COME TO A CONCLUSION.

1071 I FEEL IT'S BEEN ARTICULATED WELL IN THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

1072 I HAVE OUR CITY MANAGER HERE.

1073 IS CHRIS LAGERBLOOM HERE.

1074 MR. LAGERBLOOM IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY SHOULD 1075 ANYBODY FROM THE MPO BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

1076 BUT WE FEEL THAT I AM TRYING TO MOVE TRANSPORTATION THE TRANSPORTATION AGENDA 1077 FORWARD WE FEEL THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD AND WE INVITE OTHER CITIES 1078 TO PERHAPS CONSIDER THE SAME THING.

1079 OKAY ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

1080 BOARD MEMBER CARN.

1081 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1082 I WANTED TO.

1083 THIS IS SORT OF A FOLLOW UP TO MY FIRST INQUIRY ABOUT THE RANKING PROCESS.

1084 I'M GLAD THAT YOU GAVE ME A LITTLE COMFORT LEVEL THA IT'S OBJECTIVE AND THAT YOU 1085 PUT IT IN AND LET THE MACHINE SCORE IT SO TO SPEAK.

1086 BUT ALSO YOU KNOW IF I WERE THE OPERATOR OF THAT ON THIS SIDE OF THE ALGORITHM I 1087 KNOW WHICH POINTS TO PUT IN TO MAKE IT SCORE HIGH.

1088 I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

1089 AND SO WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN AS A BOARD MEMBER NOT A A ANYBODY ELSE BUT THIS IS 1090 MY REPUTATION HERE ON THIS BOARD.

1091 AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THESE GREAT PROJECTS ARE DESIGNED AND 1092 PRESENTED BY THE MPO AND AS PARENTS OF CHILDREN MY DAUGHTER IS MISS AMERICA.

1093 SHE IS THE CUTEST THING THAT EVER WAS BORN.

1094 AND SO THE PROJECT THAT I PUT FORWARD I'M PROUD OF IT.

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1095 AND I THINK IT OUGHT TO BE RANKED HIGH.

1096 AND SO I WANT YOU TO GIVE ME SOME COMFORT IN THAT THERE WILL BE THE PUBLIC IS 1097 WATCHING.

1098 THERE WILL BE NO PERCEPTION OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST I THAT YOU ARE DESIGNING THE 1099 PROJECT PUTTING IT INTO THE ALGORITHM THAT YOU KNOW VER INTIMATELY AND JUST SAY 1100 THEY ARE THE BEST PROJECTS THEY SAY THEY ALWAYS GET RANKED HIGH FOR A LOT OF 1101 THOSE PROJECTS ALWAYS GET RANKED HIGH.

1102 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS GOING TO TURN TO.

1103 WE KNOW WHY.

1104 OK.

1105 SO COULD YOU PUT THAT ELEPHANT OUT ON THE DESK AND LET'S TALK THROUGH 1106 THAT TO HELP US PLEASE.

1107 ACTUALLY THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DEVELOPED THE CSLIP PROGRAM AND THE 1108 RANKING CRITERIA THE WAY IT'S DONE BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN FROM 1109 SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS THAT FELT THAT SOME OF THE LARGE CITIES GOT PREFERENTIAL 1110 TREATMENT OR WAS MORE SUBJECTIVE BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PROJECT 1111 THAT LOOKED BEAUTIFUL AND SO IT GOT MORE POINTS JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKED BEAUTIFUL 1112 IT WAS FROM A LARGER CITY.

1113 CSLIP, THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA WERE DEVELOPED TO ELIMINATE IT.

1114 AND IT YOU YOU CAN'T MANIPULATE IT IN SUCH A WA BECAUSE THE BOUNDARIES AND 1115 THE CRITERIA ALREADY SET AHEAD OF TIME SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE 1116 ADJUSTED.

1117 IT TRULY IS OBJECTIVE.

1118 SO AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE PROJECTS ARE RANKED WITH THOSE CRITERIA AND THE 1119 NUMBER AMONGST THEMSELVES.

1120 SO IT'S WHATEVER COMES WITH THAT GROUP OF PROJECTS THE SAME DATASET IS USED FOR ALL 1121 OF THEM.

1122 THAT IS VERY TRANSPARENT.

1123 IT'S UP ON OUR WEB SITE.

1124 IT SAYS HERE'S THE DATA SET THAT'S BEING USED FOR THESE CRITERIA.

1125 SO IT'S NOT A DIFFERENT DATA SET FOR ONE AND ANOTHER.

1126 IT'S ALL THE SAME FOR ALL PROJECTS DURING THAT CYCLE.

1127 THANK YOU.

1128 AHEAD OF TIME THEY'RE SET AHEAD OF TIME.

1129 COULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE EDUCATION ON WHAT THAT MEANS THAT THESE HOW OFTEN 1130 ARE THESE SET.

1131 ARE THEY EVER CHANGED.

1132 THE CENSUS DATA.

1133 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT AFFECT THESE ELEMENTS.

1134 GOOD.

1135 MR. CARN.

1136 SO FIRST OFF IT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE THAT WE'RE JUST BEGINNING THE PROCESS OF 1137 STANDING THIS UP AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

1138 WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING WITH ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL AS 1139 THE COUNTY DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE METRICS AND THE EVALUATION 1140 CRITERIA.

1141 SO EVERYBODY IS GONNA GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IT AN COMMENT.

1142 SO WE'VE BEEN.

1143 MIKE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CSLIP PROCESS AND WHILE WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT AS 1144 THE STARTING POINT WE DO HAVE TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.

1145 AND ONE THING THAT WE KNOW ABOUT CSLIP WAS THAT IT'S A CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT 1146 PROCESS.

1147 SO EACH YEAR WE AWARD PROJECTS AND THEN WE GO BACK AND WE ASK OURSELVES 1148 WHAT WORKED WELL WHAT DIDN'T WORK WELL.

1149 AND THIS BOARD SEES PRETTY MUCH EACH YEAR SMALL TWEAKS AND REVISIONS ARE BROUGHT 1150 FORWARD AND CHANGES TO THE CSLIP.

1151 SO I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE SAME THING IS GOING TO LIKELY HAPPEN WITH THE 1152 SURTAX WHERE WE HOPE TO PUT FORWARD A REALLY STRONG PROCESS THAT HAS THE 1153 CONFIDENCE AND SUPPORT.

1154 I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT SURTAX.

1155 I'M TALKING ABOUT FORT LAUDERDALE.

1156 SO CAN.

1157 OKAY.

1158 I ACTUALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT DIRECTLY.

1159 ONE OF THE THINGS AND THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH FORT LAUDERDALE 1160 DIRECTLY IS PROJECTS GO THROUGH PROCESSES AND EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE AND 1161 FORT LAUDERDALE PROJECTS TYPICALLY RANK HIGH WHERE THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF 1162 FORT LAUDERDALE AND WHAT COULD BE A BENEFIT TO ANY OTHER CITY HERE AS WELL AS 1163 THE COUNTY IS YEAH YOU CAN COME UP WITH A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT AND IT SOUNDS REALLY 1164 GOOD ON PAPER.

1165 AND ONCE THAT PEN GOES TO PAPER AND IT ACTUALLY BECOMES AN ENGINEERING 1166 PROJECT VERSUS A PAPER PROJECT THEN THAT IS THE AREA THAT I THINK THIS 1167 AGREEMENT BENEFITS EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS CAN GET BUILT.

1168 ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS THAT WE GO THROUGH HERE AT THE MPO IS WHEN WE ACTUALLY 1169 RANK A PROJECT THIS BOARD VOTES ON A PROJECT IT HAS GONE THROUGH THIS OBJECTIVE 1170 CRITERIA AND THEN WE FIND OUT IT CAN'T BE BUILT BECAUSE THE PAPER DOESN'T 1171 ACTUALLY HAVE THE REALITY OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

1172 AND WHILE YOU KNOW OAKLAND PARK HAS NOT NECESSARILY HAD THAT PROBLEM SOME OF OUR 1173 OTHER MEMBER GOVERNMENTS HAVE.

1174 SO THIS IS THE VALUE THAT THIS AGREEMENT IS ACTUALLY BRINGING TO EVERYONE.

1175 AND WHILE THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER MCKINZIE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS 1176 BECAUSE THERE'S HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES IN FORT LAUDERDALE THERE'S ALSO

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1177 ISSUES IN OTHER PLACES AS WELL.

1178 AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A FULL TIME STAFF 1179 DEDICATED TO DEALING WITH US BECAUSE IT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THE MONEY.

1180 SO THEN IT'S OR CAN YOU THEN LEVERAGE THAT IN FORT LAUDERDALE IS CASE THERE A 1181 LARGE CITY AND YOU KNOW THIS IS GONNA PROVIDE COVERAGE SO MAKE SURE THAT 1182 THEIR PROJECTS ACTUALLY CAN GET BUILT THAT ARE GETTING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1183 THAT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.

1184 AND BECAUSE THEY'RE OUR CENTER CITY THERE'S A WHOLE NOTHER LITANY.

1185 BUT THAT SAID QUOTE I WAS ACTUALLY WE WERE TALKING WITH CORAL SPRINGS 1186 YESTERDAY THE CITY OF SUNRISE.

1187 THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS.

1188 AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING AS WE STAND THIS UP AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

1189 WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TO OTHERS AS WELL.

1190 OKAY.

1191 THANK YOU.

1192 BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS.

1193 THAT WAS A SIMILAR CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

1194 WHETHER OR NOT SMALLER CITIES OR CITIES WHO ARE NOT CONTRACTED WOULD FACE 1195 SOME DISADVANTAGE BUT I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

1196 ONE WHAT HAPPENS IF THROUGH YOUR SCORING SYSTEM TWO PROJECTS COMES UP THE SAME 1197 WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF POINTS.

1198 I'M SURE IT'S POSSIBLE SOMEHOW ONE AND TWO HAVE WE CHECKED WITH THE FEDERAL 1199 TRANSPORTATION ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF THIS IS POSSIBLY IS THERE 1200 ANY ANYTHING THAT COULD PROHIBIT THAT? 1201 I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MIKE BECAUSE HE DOES THE DAY TO DAY ON THIS WE'VE 1202 BEEN ACTUALLY THIS IS AN AWARD WINNING PROGRAM WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAY 1203 ADMINISTRATION U.S.

1204 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

1205 SO THEY SAY THIS IS NOT THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE AGREEMENT.

1206 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE CSLIP PROGRAM AS WELL AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH 1207 THE SURTAX.

1208 THE PROGRAM ITSELF CAN HAVE A TIE.

1209 PROJECTS CAN AND THEN THEY ARE USUALLY RANKED ONE A AND B AND MIKE CAN GET INTO 1210 THAT DISCUSSION THAT IS THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT'S JUST OBJECTIVE 1211 CRITERIA.

1212 THAT SAID THAT ISN'T A BAD THING THAT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD THING THAT MEANS WE 1213 HAVE SOME GOOD PROJECTS COMING THROUGH.

1214 SO THAT'S THAT'S A POSITIVE.

1215 MIKE.

1216 ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE WITH THE PROGRAM AS IT WAS DEVELOPED IS ALSO WHY WE 1217 NEEDED TO GET A CONSULTANT ON BOARD.

1218 ALSO IS THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL SIDES OF IT AND IT'S VERY UNLIKELY.

1219 WELL IT PROBABLY COULD HAPPEN IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THERE'S A TIE BECAUSE 1220 THERE'S CRITERIA IN THERE THAT ACTUALLY TAKE THE GROUP OF PROJECTS SO LET'S 1221 SAY YOU'RE RANKING 20 PROJECTS IT RANKS THEM AMONGST THEMSELVES AND HOW 1222 THEY RELATE TO ONE ANOTHER.

1223 SO LET'S SAY YOU WERE TO HAVE 20 PROJECTS YOU'D WRIT THEM ALL.

1224 IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT YOU WOULD GET A TIE SCORE BECAUSE IT'S RANKED AMONG 1225 THEM ALSO IT'S HOW THEY RELATE TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU COULD TAKE OUT TWO PROJECTS 1226 AND YOU MIGHT GET SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBERS BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE TAKEN OUT TWO 1227 PROJECTS AND THE RELATIONSHIP NOW HAS CHANGED AMONG THOSE 1228 PROJECTS.

1229 THIS IS WHY WE ALSO NEEDED A CONSULTANT ON BOARD BECAUSE THAT BECOMES A 1230 LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM THA ALLOWS IT TO DO THAT.

1231 SO YOU DON'T GET THOSE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE IT DOES TIE BUT WE COULD ALSO AS 1232 PART OF DEVELOPING THE SURTAXES.

1233 LET'S SAY THAT DOES HAPPEN.

1234 WHAT DO WE DO.

1235 AND THAT COULD BE I WOULD SAY A TRANSPARENT PROCESS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF 1236 SOMETHING TIES LIKE THAT.

1237 THE OTHER THING THAT WE ALSO HAVE THAT'S PART OF CSLIP.

1238 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE A PART OF SURTAX BUT IT CAN IS IS THERE'S ALSO A WAY 1239 THAT WE DO IT NOW FOR AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF PROJECTS WHEREAS ONE 1240 PROJECT GETS FUNDED FROM THE CITY IF IT RANKS HIGH ENOUGH AND THEN IT GOES TO 1241 THE NEXT ONE SO ONE CITY JUST DOESN'T GET ALL THE MONEY IN THE POT BECAUSE 1242 FIVE OF THEIR PROJECTS RANKED AT THE TOP.

1243 EVEN WITH THIS OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.

1244 SO THERE'S MANY I THINK WAYS THAT IT CAN BE ADDRESSED.

1245 ALL RIGHT.

1246 THANK YOU.

1247 BOARD MEMBER LAZAROW.

1248 THANK YOU CHAIR.

1249 YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME BECAUSE I HAD A LOT OF NOTES AND THEN EVERYBODY 1250 STARTED TALKING AND THEN I HAD TO ADD CHICKEN SCRATCH.

1251 SO EVERYBODY JUST BEAR WITH ME.

1252 I'M VOTING NO ON THIS PROJECT I DON'T LIKE TO YOU KNOW MAKE EVERYBODY GUESS 1253 I'M VOTING NO AND I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS.

1254 I WAS GONNA ASK QUESTIONS BUT I DON'T FEEL THE QUESTIONS NECESSARILY NEED 1255 TO BE ANSWERED.

1256 IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THEM YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

1257 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

1258 THE MPO IS GONNA TAKE OVER THE PLANNING FUNCTIONS AND IT'S NICE THAT OTHER CITIES 1259 ARE INTERESTED BUT NO ONE'S ACTUALLY SIGNED ANYTHING SO IT'S NICE THAT SUNRISE IS 1260 INTERESTED AND OTHER CITIES BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

1261 YOU KNOW FOR FULL TIME POSITIONS ARE GOING TO BE HIRED THAT ARE DEDICATED TO

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1262 THEIR TRANSPORTATION AND THAT TO ME IS A CONFLICT RIGHT THERE FOR A CITY VS.

1263 REGION.

1264 SO WITH THE PROPOSED ILA IN PLACE EVEN IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL IT SAID THE CITY'S 1265 LOOKING TO BENEFIT FROM THE MPO'S WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.

1266 WELL IF THERE'S MORE EXPERIENCE AND MORE WEALTH BRING IT OVER HERE.

1267 YOU KNOW I DON'T SEE WHY EXTRA MONEY SHOULD GIVE EXTRA WEALTH AND EXPERIENCE 1268 TO FORT LAUDERDALE BUT THE MPO IS GOING TO PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN THE RANKING OF THE 1269 CITY PROJECTS OF THE SURTAX.

1270 AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A DISADVANTAGE TO THE CITIES AND YOU KNOW 1271 EVERYBODY HAS MENTIONED THE CSLIP.

1272 THIS IS NOT THE CSLIP IN MY OPINION THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE CSLIP AND 1273 YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA SOUND LIKE I'M CRYING I'M A CRYBABY FOR HALLANDALE.

1274 BUT YOU KNOW THE MPO HAS ALREADY SHOWN FAVORITISM WITH TRANSPORTATION IN THE 1275 PAST BECAUSE YOU KNOW FUNDING WAS APPROVED FOR COMMUNITY BUSES FOR FORT 1276 LAUDERDALE AND WE HAD THE VERY SAME PROJECT AND WERE DENIED.

1277 OF COURSE YOU KNOW OURS DIDN'T LOOK BEAUTIFUL.

1278 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PLAYED IN THAT ROLE OR NOT BUT IN MY OPINION THERE'S 1279 ALREADY BEEN SOME FAVORITISM UNLESS I SEE YOU WANTING TO TALK.

1280 YEAH I DO.

1281 THAT'S OK BUT THAT'S MY POSITION AND I'LL BE VOTING NO.

1282 BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMUNITY SHUTTLES FIRST AND FOREMOST BECAUSE THAT WAS 1283 ACTUALLY PUT IN THE 2035 PLAN BY THE CITY IT WAS A REQUEST BY THE CITY OF FORT 1284 LAUDERDALE ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO NOW TO ACTUALLY FUND THOSE SHUTTLES AND THAT'S 1285 ACTUALLY WHY THEY WERE FUNDED.

1286 HALLANDALE HAS PROPOSED AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH THE RANKING 1287 CRITERIA THROUGH CSLIP FOR THOSE SHUTTLES AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE DENIED 1288 THERE'S TECHNICAL REASONS BEHIND THAT AND THAT IS A THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGER 1289 ISSUES THAT MOST OF OUR GOVERNMENTS FACE WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY OR THE 1290 CITIES IS THERE'S ACTUALLY A FEDERAL CRITERIA A PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH 1291 AND THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE AND SHARING WE'RE ALWAYS WILLING TO TO DO WITH OUR PARTNERS 1292 WHEN IT COMES TO FEDERAL IT'S PREPARING FOR AND THE I WANT TO GET AWAY FROM THE 1293 CONFRONTATION OF THE SUBJECT WHICH IS THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE.

1294 WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SAME AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH BROWARD COUNTY TO DO THE 1295 SURTAX.

1296 ARE THESE EMPLOYEES GONNA BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

1297 AND THE ANSWER IS NO.

1298 MY COLLEAGUES AROUND THE NATION WHERE THIS IS ACTUALLY DONE BY COUNCILS 1299 OF GOVERNMENT WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN MPO IN MOST OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY 1300 THEY ACTUALLY DO HAVE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENTS WITH THEIR MEMBER GOVERNMENTS TO 1301 PROVIDE SERVICES IDENTICAL TO THIS.

1302 IT JUST HASN'T BEEN DONE HERE IN SOUTHEAST FLORIDA.

1303 THE MPO IN PENSACOLA ACTUALLY DOES THIS DIRECTLY WHERE IT NOT ONLY DOES THE 1304 MPO FUNCTION IT DOES MUNICIPAL FUNCTIONS.

1305 IN FACT IT DOES PERMITTING.

1306 SO THERE'S ALL THESE DIFFERENT PERMUTATIONS TO THIS BUT IT IS WHILE IT MAY 1307 APPEAR TO BE CONFLICTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR 1308 YOUR POINT OF VIEW IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES FOR A MOR EFFICIENT WAY OF PROVIDING 1309 THOSE SERVICES TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AS WELL AS TO THE CITIZENS DIRECTLY SO 1310 THAT THAT IS REALLY WHY THIS WE LOOK AT IT AND GO OKAY.

1311 WE DON'T SEE THE CONFLICT IN THIS ALTHOUGH FROM FIRST BLUSH I COULD SEE WHERE YOU 1312 WOULD THINK THAT COULD BE.

1313 AND THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE PARTNER WITH.

1314 SO THE FTA WOULD THEY HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT OR THE MPO HAVE THEY WRITTEN ANY 1315 CONTRACTS FOR I MEAN OPINIONS ABOUT THIS IF THERE ARE ANY CONFLICTS FOR THOSE 1316 OTHER AGENCIES.

1317 AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT ACTUALLY THIS IS 1318 SOMETHING THAT'S COMMON ELSEWHERE IN THE NATION.

1319 U.S.

1320 DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SEES THAT THERE IS NO DIRECT CONFLICT TO THAT 1321 BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING FUNCTIONS AND THE ABILITY TO 1322 SHARE IN WHAT WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS ON A DAILY 1323 BASIS.

1324 WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT WITH HALLANDALE STAFF DIRECTLY BUT THEY WOULD 1325 THEN HAVE TO THEN TAKE IT AND GO FROM THERE WHERE AT LEAST WITH THE CITY OF FORT 1326 LAUDERDALE THEY ARE PAYING FOR STAFF HERE TO MOVE FORWARD.

1327 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1328 YOU'RE WELCOME.

1329 THANK YOU.

1330 BOARD MEMBER HUNSCHOFSKY.

1331 YES.

1332 THANK YOU.

1333 IT'S SLIGHTLY OFF TOPIC BUT WITH THE TALK OF EQUITY TODAY I JUST LIKE TO PUT ON 1334 THE RECORD ONCE AGAIN THAT 34 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE DO NOT HAVE A 1335 RIGHT TO EVEN VOTE ON THESE ISSUES.

1336 AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY YOU HAVE 13 PERCENT OF THE SEATED

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1337 MEMBERS WHO DON'T EVEN HAVE A VOTE AND 39 PERCENT OF THE ENTITIES REPRESENTED 1338 HERE DO NOT EVEN HAVE A VOTE ON ANY OF THESE ISSUES.

1339 I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE MOST EGREGIOUS PART OF IT.

1340 THANK YOU.

1341 OK.

1342 FORMER CHAIR BLATTNER.

1343 I'M HAPPY ABOUT THIS.

1344 IT'S AN OUTGROWTH OF SOMETHING WE STARTED A LONG TIME AGO WITH A LIBRARY OF 1345 SERVICES AND WE HAVE SAID THIS IN THIS MEETING NUMEROUS TIMES THAT THIS IS 1346 LIBRARY OF SERVICES HAS IDENTIFIED CONSULTANTS WHO PERFORM CERTAIN FUNCTIONS 1347 THAT INDIVIDUAL CITIES ARE NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES WERE AVAILABLE TO 1348 ANYBODY AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT BUT I'M SURE THAT 1349 MR. STUART AT THE NEXT MEETING COULD GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL THE CITIES 1350 WHO'VE SAID I NEED HELP WITH PLANNING OR I NEED HELP WITH ENGINEERING OR 1351 WHATEVER BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME CITIES IT'S JUST THAT ARE STAFF 1352 CONSTRAINED AND SO A LIBRARY OF SERVICES IS A GOOD IDEA.

1353 AND THIS IS I WON'T SAY IT'S THE END RESULT OF THAT.

1354 BUT IT IS A LOGICAL CONSEQUENCE OF OFFERING THAT.

1355 I THINK THAT WHAT THE WHAT MY SUGGESTION IS HERE.

1356 MY COMMENT IS THAT TO THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS ONE NO PROJECT GETS APPROVED THAT 1357 IS NOT APPROVED BY THIS BOARD.

1358 SO IF WE TAKE THE WORST SCENARIO WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT THE BOARD 1359 THINKS THAT SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THE RANKING ON ANY PROJECT WAS MANIPULATED WE 1360 COULD SAY NO.

1361 THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS THAT BECAUSE WE GET TO VOTE WE HAVE THE FINAL WORD.

1362 AND IT REALLY PUTS PRESSURE ON STAFF AND FORT LAUDERDALE TO MAKE SURE THAT 1363 WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA.

1364 AND IT ALSO PUTS THE PRESSURE ON MPO STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE 1365 ACTUALLY PUTTING THIS KIND OF IN A SILO THAT SAYS HEY WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF THE 1366 NATURE OF THIS CONTRACT BEING AS LARGE AS IT IS FOR THE COUNTY'S LARGEST CITY 1367 WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER SCRUTINY.

1368 SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE RANK PROJECTS WHETHER IT'S CSLIP OR 1369 WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE REALLY BEING OBJECTIVE.

1370 THAT'S YOUR JOB MR. STUART AND YOUR STAFF.

1371 SO IN FACT I JUST FORWARDED THIS ITEM TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR 1372 DEVELOPMENT SAID DO WE WANT TO DO THIS BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU WE DON'T HAVE 1373 ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE PLANNING CAPACITY TO DO ALL THE WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO 1374 TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND AND THE SURTAX AND OUR OWN 1375 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

1376 SO I HOPE YOU'LL APPROVE THIS BUT I THINK THE CONCERNS ARE LEGITIMATE AND 1377 SHOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD.

1378 BUT WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.

1379 THANK YOU.

1380 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD.

1381 SO THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1382 SO IS THIS THE FIRST AGREEMENT OF THIS TYPE.

1383 THIS IS A SECOND AGREEMENT THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDES FOR STAFFING WITHIN THE 1384 ORGANIZATION THE FIRST ONE WAS WITH BROWARD COUNTY GOVERNMENT FOR THE SURTAX.

1385 THIS IS THE SECOND ONE.

1386 HOWEVER WE DO HAVE AS THE FORMER CHAIR ACTUALLY MENTIONED INTER LOCAL 1387 AGREEMENTS WITH MULTIPLE MEMBERS UP HERE THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE LIBRARY.

1388 AND THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.

1389 SO CAN YOU.

1390 CAN YOU SHARE WHICH ONES THOSE ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

1391 I KNOW IT'S TAMARAC.

1392 I KNOW IT'S FORT LAUDERDALE.

1393 LAUDERDALE LAKES.

1394 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

1395 THOSE ARE THE.

1396 I THINK STAFF'S COMING TO HELP.

1397 YES.

1398 THANK YOU.

1399 OK.

1400 IT'S COCONUT CREEK FORT LAUDERDALE, LAUDERDALE LAKES, MIRAMAR, NORTH 1401 LAUDERDALE AND TAMARAC.

1402 OKAY SO THAT'S WHAT I RECALL.

1403 AND I I REMEMBER HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

1404 PERCEPTION IS PEOPLE'S REALITY.

1405 SO I THINK THAT MULTIPLE AGENCIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS MPO ARE ARE GETTING 1406 ASSISTANCE FROM FROM THE MPO STAFF.

1407 SO I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CLEAR AND CAUTIOUS AND AND 1408 TRANSPARENT AS TO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THESE 1409 AGREEMENTS IN PLACE AND YOU KNOW OUT OF RESPECT TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE HAD 1410 REFERENCED SOME CONCERNS.

1411 I THINK THERE IS SOME LEGITIMATE PERCEPTION CONCERNS.

1412 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU I DON'T BELIEVE YOU DO ANY TYPE OF FAVORITISM.

1413 I WILL TELL YOU I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED SERVING ON THIS BOARD.

1414 BUT I ALSO CONCUR THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE BE VERY VERY OPEN AND 1415 TRANSPARENT AS TO HOW THINGS ARE DONE AND WHY THEY ARE CHOSEN.

1416 AND AND IF THERE IS A WAY TO ENSURE THAT THIS GROUP GETS ANY FORM OF MINUTES OR

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1417 YOU KNOW I DON'T WANT TO JUST GET A SUMMARY I REALLY WANT TO HEAR AND GET SOME 1418 KIND OF DOCUMENTATION AS TO CONVERSATIONS AND THINGS THAT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE 1419 ESPECIALLY WHEN IT DEALS WITH THE SURTAX THAT YOU'RE YOU KNOW YOU'RE COMING 1420 TOGETHER AND PUTTING FORMULAS TOGETHER AND HOW THOSE FORMULAS.

1421 I'M DOING A PUDDLE JUMP.

1422 HOW YOU YOU YOU ACHIEVE A CERTAIN FORMULA IN PLACE.

1423 I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO SEE WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS BEHIND IT.

1424 AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED HERE.

1425 SO THANK YOU.

1426 OKAY.

1427 THANK YOU.

1428 BOARD MEMBER HUNSCHOFSKY.

1429 YEAH.

1430 AND I WOULD JUST I'M GONNA ONCE RESPOND TO FORMER CHAIR BLATTNER WHO'S NO 1431 LONGER HERE.

1432 HE'S TURNED AROUND.

1433 I THINK THAT THE STAFF DOES A GOOD JOB TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S EQUITABLE BUT I 1434 POINT OUT ONCE AGAIN EVERYTHING HERE IS GEARED TOWARD THE LARGER CITIES 1435 BECAUSE THE 13 MEMBERS WHO CAN'T VOTE ARE THE SMALLEST CITIES.

1436 AND THEREFORE EVEN IF WE SHOW UP HERE EVEN IF EVERYTHING'S DONE THROUGH A 1437 PROCESS WE HAVE NO VOTE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SMALLER CITIES ALSO HAVE A SAY WE 1438 CAN TALK ALL WE WANT BUT IN THE END WE ALL KNOW IN THI WORLD YOUR VOTE IS YOUR 1439 VOICE.

1440 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REVISITED AT ONE POINT.

1441 IT WAS REVISITED BEFORE.

1442 BUT THOSE OF US EVEN WHO DON'T HAVE A VOTE MADE SURE THAT WE ALSO WERE ACTIVE IN 1443 THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION WHEN THERE WAS A MOVE TO TAKE EVEN MORE VOTES AWAY FROM 1444 THIS MPO.

1445 SO IT'S KIND OF IRONIC THAT THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON HERE WERE THE ONES 1446 LOBBYING TO MAKE SURE LEGISLATION DIDN'T PASS TO TAKE THE VOTE AWAY FROM 1447 OTHERS.

1448 SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT AT SOME POINT THAT THIS BOARD REVISIT THAT OPPORTUNITY 1449 BECAUSE IF WE WANT TO BE SEEN AS INCLUSIVE IF WE WANT TO BE SEEN AS 1450 EQUITABLE THEN I THINK EVERY MEMBER OF THIS BOARD SHOULD ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO 1451 MAKE SURE THEY SHOW UP AND DO THEIR HOMEWORK SHOULD HAVE A VOTE ON WHAT HAPPENS 1452 HERE AND I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO HELP WITH THE APPEARANCE THAT IT'S NOT 1453 JUST RUN BY THE LARGER CITIES.

1454 OK.

1455 THANK YOU.

1456 BOARD MEMBER GANZ.

1457 YES.

1458 THANK YOU.

1459 GOOD MORNING.

1460 I'M JUST CURIOUS WHO GIVES THE MARCHING ORDERS.

1461 IS IT FORT LAUDERDALE DIRECTIVES OR IS IT THE MPO'S DIRECTIVE ON THIS.

1462 AS FAR AS THE STAFFING THAT WOULD BE HERE THAT WOULD BE PLACED FOR THE CITY OF FORT 1463 LAUDERDALE.

1464 THEIR POINT OF CONTACT IS IN THE CONTRACT ITSELF BUT THE CITY STAFF WOULD BE 1465 WORKING WITH US.

1466 I THINK MORE TOWARDS MY POINT IS WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A PROJECT THAT FORT 1467 LAUDERDALE WANTS TO DO OR IS LOOKING TO DO AND IS LOOKING TO UTILIZE THE 1468 SERVICES TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT AND IT MIGHT BE IN DIRECT DISAGREEMENT THROUGH 1469 WHAT MAY BE THE DIRECTION THE MPO WANTS TO GO IN.

1470 HYPOTHETICALLY WHO WOULD WHOSE CALL WOULD THAT BE.

1471 HOW WOULD THIS BE INFLUENCING WHO WOULD BE THE ONE MAKING THE CALL.

1472 WE'D MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY AND WE'D ALSO KNOW THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE 1473 OF THE HOUSE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE MPO IN THE CONFLICT.

1474 AND AT THAT POINT IF IT IS AN MPO CONFLICT IT WOULD APPEAR HERE AT THE BOARD.

1475 IT WOULDN'T BE DONE AT STAFF LEVEL.

1476 SO LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT THE MPO IS RECOMMENDING FOR FORT 1477 LAUDERDALE TO DO BASED ON THEIR EXPERTISE AND WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST.

1478 BUT IT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT FORT LAUDERDAL WANTS TO DO.

1479 YES.

1480 AND IN THAT PROJECT FORT LAUDERDALE STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO BE THE DRIVER ON 1481 THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE MPO.

1482 THE CITY HAS IT THE WAY IT'S ENVISIONED IS THAT WHERE TRANSPORTATION 1483 PLANNING WOULD BE DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

1484 THE CITY COMMISSION IN THIS CASE ALWAYS CONTROLS WHATEVER COMES FROM THE 1485 CITY.

1486 AND THEN AS IT RELATES TO THE MPO WHEN WE'RE HERE DOING MPO BUSINESS IF IT'S A 1487 FORT LAUDERDALE ITEM, THAT ITEM WOULD COME FORWARD AND YOU WOULD THE MPO BOARD 1488 WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND THE RECOMMENDATION WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE ON BEHALF OF THE 1489 CITY MAY OR MAY NOT BE A PLAY IN THAT PART BECAUSE THE CITY COMMISSION MIGHT 1490 DIRECT IT TO COME HERE AND THEN THE MPO THE MPO STAFF HERE WOULD MAKE ITS 1491 RECOMMENDATION REVIEW IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD THE FULL BOARD 1492 AND IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME.

1493 THANK YOU.

1494 BOARD MEMBER LAZAROW.

1495 ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT MAYOR GANZ WAS SAYING MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT 1496 PROJECTS WILL BENEFIT BY THE EXTRA RESOURCES THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR.

1497 THEY WILL THEY WILL IN MY OPINION COME TO THE BOARD PROBABLY YOU KNOW NEW AND 1498 IMPROVED.

1499 SO I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE RANKING.

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1500 IF THEY ARE PAYING FOR EXTRA HELP WON'T THEIR NOT HELP BUT EXTRA SERVICES 1501 EXTRA RESOURCES DOESN'T THAT IN SOME CAPACITY IMPROVE THE ABILITY TO RANK HIGHER.

1502 ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW THE CITY'S EVERY MEMBER OF GOVERNMENT HERE HAS ACCESS 1503 TO THIS ORGANIZATION DIRECTLY SO THAT YOU KNOW WE WORK WITH YOUR STAFF 1504 QUITE A BIT.

1505 YOU KNOW HE'S VERY ACTIVE ON THE TAC.

1506 THERE'S MULTIPLE TIMES I'VE PERSONALLY MET WITH HIM AND SAID THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY 1507 NEED TO BE DOING TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1508 AND THEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

1509 THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.

1510 SO THAT SAID YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH WITH FORT LAUDERDALE 1511 THIS IS ACTUALLY PROVIDING THEM WITH TRANSPORTATION PLANNING SERVICES AND THE 1512 KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT WE HAVE HERE THAT IS PRETTY MUCH STRAIGHTFORWARD YOU KNOW TO 1513 ONE OF THE CITIES THAT I'M MOST CONCERNED ABOUT IS LAUDERDALE LAKES AND 1514 LAUDERDALE LAKES OF ALL OF YOU HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF STAFF NECESSARY TO MOVE 1515 TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FORWARD AND WE WOULD YOU KNOW LIKE TO BE ABLE TO 1516 WORK WITH THEM.

1517 LAUDER HILL AND SAY OK MAYBE THERE IS A PERSON IN ONE PARTICULAR POSITION THAT 1518 THEY COULD AFFORD OUT OF ALL OUT OF THEIR BUDGET THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE 1519 THAT TYPE OF AREA THIS IS WHAT OTHER MPOS IN THE NATION DO.

1520 AND JUST TO DIRECTLY BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TRANSPORTATION KNOWLEDGE 1521 BASE IS PROVIDED WHEN IT ISN'T ON THE FEDERAL SIDE OF THE DOLLAR.

1522 THANK YOU.

1523 OK.

1524 THANK YOU.

1525 BOARD MEMBER SOFIELD SO IN CONCERN RESPECT TO THE CONCERNS OF PARKLAND MAYOR 1526 AND LIKES OF THE OTHER 30 35 PERCENT.

1527 FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO ASK THAT ON THE NEXT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE THAT WE ADDRESS 1528 THIS SOMEHOW OR AT LEAST BE EDUCATED ON WHAT KIND OF CHANGES WE CAN MAKE.

1529 BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS LONG FELT THAT THAT IF YOU SHOW UP HERE YOU'RE ON THE MPO 1530 BOARD YOU SHOULD AT LEAST BE ABLE TO VOTE.

1531 I KNOW WE WENT FROM 19 TO 25 AND I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE WATCHING THE 1532 GUY FROM HILLSBORO BEACH.

1533 MR. GARCIA.

1534 YEAH.

1535 HE WAS LIKE ONE OF THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSONS GIVING US ALL THESE IDEAS 1536 AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TO END OF THE DAY.

1537 HE COULDN'T VOTE.

1538 HE WAS ALWAYS NOT ABLE TO VOTE.

1539 HE WAS LIKE THE LAST ONE ON THE LIST BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU KNOW AND I ALWAYS FELT 1540 THAT HE SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE THE MAIN VOTE BASICALLY.

1541 MAYBE NOT THE MAIN VOTE.

1542 BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

1543 SO SO IF THAT'S POSSIBLE TO PUT THAT ON THE NEXT EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING TO 1544 AT LEAST DISCUSS OUR OPTIONS AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS AND 1545 THEN I'LL LET YOU LET YOU KNOW ALSO I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE A SMALL MEMBER 1546 SMALL CITY MEMBER JOHNSON AND I BELIEVE THAT MY APPOINTMENT HAS SOMETHING 1547 TO DO WITH THE GENERAL BOARD.

1548 I'M NOT SURE TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.

1549 SO IF YOU EVEN THOUGH I PERSONALLY I SUPPORT THIS BUT IF I IF I'M 1550 REPRESENTING YOU THE 30 35 PERCENT IF YOU TELL ME THAT YOU DON'T WANT THIS AND I 1551 HAVE TO SIDE WITH YOU AND VOTE NO ON THIS.

1552 SO AND I WOULD I WOULD.

1553 I'M NOT TELLING WHAT THE OTHER BOARD MEMBER TO DO BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN 1554 YOU CAN AT LEAST TEMPORARILY USE THOSE AVENUES OF THE SMALL 1555 BUSINESS OF THE SMALL CITY REPRESENTATIVES TO TO VOICE YOUR OPINION.

1556 AM I CORRECT THAT CORRECT? 1557 YES YOU ARE BECAUSE THE MPO IS ESTABLISHED BY DISTRICTS.

1558 YES.

1559 SO REPRESENTATIVES FROM WITHIN THE DISTRICT IF YOU HAVE THE THE ALTERNATE 1560 MEMBERS AND OF COURSE YOU HAVE THE REGULAR VOTING MEMBERS WITHIN YOUR 1561 DISTRICT.

1562 SO TYPICALLY BEFORE WE HAD THE 25 VOTES YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO YOUR 1563 MEMBER CITY TO VOTE OR ASK THEM FOR DIRECTION OR YOUR INFORMATION RELATING TO THAT 1564 OF COURSE IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF CONFLICT.

1565 DID YOU HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT SUNSHINE AN WHATEVER ELSE HE WAS 1566 COMMENTING TO THAT BUT THE DISTRICT SETUP THAT YOU HAVE WOULD BE BECAUSE YOU WOULD 1567 NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE WOULD ALLOW YOU TO BE ABLE TO CONTACT YOUR DISTRICT 1568 REPRESENTATIVE.

1569 THE ACTUAL VOTING MEMBER IN YOUR DISTRICT.

1570 BUT HERE IN THIS SETTING THE 35 PERCENT CAN STAND UP AND SAY WE DON'T WANT THIS 1571 AND WOULD HAVE TO.

1572 YES SIR.

1573 AND OF COURSE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED FROM WHERE WE WERE YEARS AGO 1574 WHERE WE'RE ALTERNATE MEMBERS WEREN'T EVEN ON THE DIAS THEY HAD NO 1575 PARTICIPATION TO DISCUSS OR EVEN VOTE WHETHER IT COUNTED OR NOT THEY SAT IN 1576 THE BACK OR IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

1577 GENERAL COUNSEL I'M GOING TO STOP YOU THERE JUST BECAUSE WE ARE ON AGENDA 1578 ITEM 3 WHICH IS ACTUALLY ON TO APPROVE A PLANNING CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF 1579 FORT LAUDERDALE.

1580 AND I DON'T WANT TO OBFUSCATE INTO THE FOURTH AMENDMENT AND COMBINE THAT 1581 THOSE TWO HAVE SIMILAR AGENDA ITEMS ALL TOGETHER THEY ARE TOTALLY SEPARATE

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1582 ISSUES.

1583 BOARD MEMBER SOFIELD.

1584 [INAUDIBLE] THERE WAS CONCERNED WITH THIS SMALL CITIES HERE I JUST WANTED 1585 TO AT LEAST WHILE IT WAS FRESH IN OUR MINDS TO SAY HEY CAN WE AT LEAST DISCUSS 1586 IT AT THE NEXT EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING ON WHAT WE CAN DO WHEN WE CAN'T DO JUST 1587 IDEAS.

1588 AND I AM AMENABLE TO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT BOARD MEMBERS SOFIELD GETS AN 1589 INVITE TO THAT MEETING SO HE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

1590 [INAUDIBLE] HE'LL BE THERE.

1591 OKAY GREAT.

1592 BOARD MEMBER TRANTALIS.

1593 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1594 SO I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL THIS THIS MORNING AND AND I THINK I THINK WE ALL 1595 UNDERSTAND WE'RE ALL SYMPATHETIC TO EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.

1596 PERHAPS MAYBE I SHOULD EXPLAIN TO YOU THE GENESIS OF THIS THIS ANALYSIS SO 1597 THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE ALL THIS STARTED FROM.

1598 AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THERE IS A NEW COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE THAT 1599 TOOK OFFICE LAST YEAR.

1600 AND SUBSEQUENTLY WE ALSO HAD A CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION IN OUR CITY IN OUR CITY IN 1601 OUR CITY'S ATTEMPT TO REORGANIZE OUR ADMINISTRATION.

1602 WE IDENTIFIED MANY OF OUR STRENGTHS BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTOOD SOME OF OUR 1603 WEAKNESSES AND SOME OF OUR WEAKNESSES MATERIALIZE IN OUR TRANSPORTATION 1604 DEPARTMENT.

1605 THAT IS MOSTLY BECAUSE WE HAD ASSERTED THAT WE HAD TO LEVEL PEOPLE LEAVE THE CITY 1606 AND VERY HARD TO REPLACE THEM.

1607 SO WE DID.

1608 WE DID A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND WE CONSULTED WITH WITH MR. STUART AND OTHERS TRIED 1609 TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEA AS TO HOW CAN WE HELP THE CITY AND ALSO HELP 1610 FACILITATE SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE THE ARE NECESSARY FOR 1611 NOT JUST THE CITY BUT FOR THE COUNTY OVERALL.

1612 KEEPING IN MIND THAT SOME OF THE CITY PROJECTS DO IMPACT THE ENTIRE COUNTY 1613 AND HAND I BELIEVE THAT THE MPO FELT THAT THAT IS THE CITY WAS TRYING TO TO 1614 ESTABLISH A A A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE WITHIN ITS TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT AS 1615 WELL AS TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF ITS CHOICES AND ITS ABILITY TO MOVE 1616 PROJECTS FORWARD.

1617 IT WAS DETERMINED THAT PERHAPS BY THE MPO ALLOWING THE CITY TO USE TO RELY ON 1618 THEIR EXPERTISE THIS WOULD ASSIST THE CITY IN ITS TRANSPORTATION AGENDA.

1619 NOW I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND A LOT OF FOLKS THINKING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE 1620 LEFT IN THE DUST IF THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE YOU KNOW PARTNERS UP WITH THE 1621 MPO AND EVERYONE ELSE IS GOING TO BE IGNORED.

1622 I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THIS PROPOSAL DID NOT SIT WELL WITH EVERYBODY IN THE 1623 CITY.

1624 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CITY FELT THAT A LOT OF THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS 1625 WOULD BE IGNORED AND AND THAT THE CITY WAS JUST GOING TO FOCUS ON MAJOR 1626 PROJECTS AND AND THE MPO WAS GOING TO PRETTY MUCH TAKE OVER OUR 1627 TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE NO INPUT WHATSOEVER.

1628 NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

1629 SO THAT RELATES NOT JUST TO THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE PROJECTS BUT ALSO TO THE 1630 PROJECTS IN A LOT OF THE SMALLER CITIES THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE ON THE 1631 BOARD TODAY.

1632 I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING WITH THE STAFF OF THE MPO AND 1633 THE FACT THAT RECOMMENDATIONS MAY BE MAD AS A RESULT OF THE PLANNING 1634 DECISIONS BRINGS US UNDER EVEN GREATER SCRUTINY THAN THAN OTHERWISE BECAUSE FOR 1635 THE VERY REASON OF THE PROCESS THAT YOU ALL DESCRIBED THIS MORNING AND 1636 WE ACCEPT THAT WE ACCEPT THAT ROLE WE EXPECT TO ACCEPT THAT BURDEN.

1637 BUT WE ALSO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN NEEDS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED 1638 AND HAVE TO BE FULFILLED.

1639 AND THAT'S IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND THE PROPER EXPERTISE IN ORDER TO BE 1640 ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS THAT THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND 1641 HOW THAT IMPACTS EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY.

1642 SO I FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE'RE BEING WE'RE BEING AMBUSHED BY THE OTHER ISSUE 1643 OF REPRESENTATION HERE ON THE BOARD AND I AND I FULLY SUPPORT THAT.

1644 I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND SIT HERE AND LISTEN AND PARTICIPATE 1645 IN THE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOTE.

1646 BUT LET'S NOT CONFUSE THAT WITH THE ISSUE AT HAND.

1647 AND I FULLY SUPPORT WHATEVER UNDERTAKING THAT THIS BOARD DECIDES TO 1648 FULFILL IF IT CHOOSES TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE ON ALL THESE ITEMS. 1649 BUT TODAY WE'RE JUST HERE ON TRYING TO ALLOW FORT LAUDERDALE TO CONTRACT WITH 1650 THE MPO STAFF TO ASSIST US IN TRYING TO GET THROUGH OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING 1651 AND DECISION MAKING.

1652 AND SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS BOARD WOULD SUPPORT THE DECISION OF THE EXECUTIVE

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1653 BOARD WHICH WHICH DID APPROVE THIS ITEM SO THAT WE CAN TOGETHER WORK AND TRY 1654 TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN IN A MUCH MORE MUCH MORE EXPEDITIOUS WAY.

1655 IF IT'S DETERMINED BY THIS BOARD THAT IS NOT WORKING.

1656 THIS IS NOT A FOREVER THING.

1657 IF WE CAN GO ONE YEAR WE'LL GO TWO YEARS IF IT'S NOT WORKING THEN YOU KNOW THEN 1658 THEN IT CAN BECOME AN ITEM AND WE CAN AND WE CAN DISSOLVE IT.

1659 AND WHEN I SAY IF IT'S NOT WORKING I'M SAYING NOT JUST NOT WORKING FOR THE MPO BUT 1660 NOT WORKING FOR THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE.

1661 IF WE FIND THAT IT'S IF IT'S STIFLING OUR PROGRESS WHICH THERE ARE 1662 POSSIBILITIES IT COULD WE MAY SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE'LL WALK AWAY AND 1663 YOU'LL WALK AWAY WE WERE STILL FRIENDS.

1664 BUT THE IDEA HERE IS TO RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR COLLABORATION AND THAT'S WHY 1665 WHEN I SPOKE AT THE BEGINNING I SAID THAT I ENCOURAGE OTHER CITIES TO 1666 CONSIDER THE SAME PROCESS SMALL OR LARGE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN WE TEAM UP 1667 WE SEEM TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH MUCH MORE THAN IF WE WORK INDEPENDENTLY AND 1668 AND AND WITHOUT THE TYPE OF COOPERATION THAT I THINK TOO MANY COLLABORATIVE 1669 GOVERNMENTS ARE OFTEN SUFFER THE RESULTS FROM.

1670 SO I'M GOING TO MOVE THIS ITEM AND I ASK THAT THAT THIS BOARD FAVORABLY APPROVE 1671 IT.

1672 OK.

1673 WE'RE STILL IN TO DISCUSSION MODE AT THIS TIME BUT BOARD MEMBER SHARIEF.

1674 YES THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER CALETKA.

1675 MAYOR I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE ITEM BUT I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP SOMETHING FOR NEW 1676 MEMBERS WHO HAVE JOINED AND FOR CITIES WHO HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD FOR A 1677 LONG TIME YOU KNOW OURS WE BROUGHT THIS ISSUE OF THE SMALLER CITIES BEING ABLE TO 1678 PARTICIPATE WE BRING THIS UP EVERY YEAR AND WE BRING IT UP MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR.

1679 SO IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING THE BOARD I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND 1680 THAT WE DO BRING THAT UP NOW I'M GOING TO ASK MR. STUART TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK 1681 TO THE STATUTORY GUIDELINES THAT ALLOWED US TO HAVE THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT WE 1682 HAVE BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO GET MORE BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT EVERYBODY COULDN'T 1683 VOTE AND THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT.

1684 AND SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO SPEAK TO THE REASON FOR THAT.

1685 WELL THAT'LL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND HE IS PREPARED TO DO THAT.

1686 WELL I THINK BECAUSE THIS THE ITEM VOTE ON THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON 1687 PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PURPOSE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE THINKING THERE'S 1688 SOME FAVORITISM AND I DON'T THINK IT IS.

1689 AND I KNOW IT'S NOT.

1690 AND I'LL JUST SPEAK TO THE REST OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AFTER YOU FINISHED 1691 WHICH IS I HAVE BEEN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I HAVE HAD FOR THE LAST EIGHT 1692 YEARS CITIES IN MY DISTRICT THAT COULD NOT VOTE ON THIS DAIS WHEN THEY SHOWED UP.

1693 IF YOU RECALL FREDDIE [INAUDIBLE] FROM SOUTHWEST RANCHES SHOWED UP 1694 HERE EVERY SINGLE TIME AND HE COULD NOT VOTE.

1695 BUT WHEN SOUTHWEST RANCHES HAD AN ISSUE THEY WOULD COME TO ME AND I WOULD HELP 1696 ADVOCATE FOR THEIR ISSUE.

1697 THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS WHEN YOU CAN'T VOTE.

1698 ADDITIONALLY WE HAVE WEST PARK WE HAVE PEMBROKE PARK AND I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR 1699 THEIR ISSUES AND YOU SEE OVER THERE YOU'VE GOT PEMBROKE PARK REPRESENTED 1700 BUT HE CAN'T VOTE TODAY.

1701 BUT HE'S BEEN REPRESENTED AND I'M JUST SAYING AND HALLANDALE AS WELL I DID 1702 HELP HALLANDALE WITH PROJECTS AS WELL.

1703 I THINK THAT WHAT YOU WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT WHEN YOU CAN'T VOTE AND YOU HAVE 1704 SOMETHING AND IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADVOCATED FOR YOU CAN 1705 ALWAYS DO THAT TO YOUR COUNTY COMMISSION.

1706 THIS BOARD ASKED FOR FIVE OF US TO BE HERE FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY WANTED MORE 1707 INPUT FROM THE REGIONAL BODY AND SO WHAT I'M JUST SAYING LIKE.

1708 YES I UNDERSTAND THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE THAN THE PLANNING CONTRACT FOR THE 1709 CITY.

1710 IT IS.

1711 AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT IT UP AND IT'S AFFECTING 1712 THE VOTE ON THIS ITEM WE JUST NEEDED TO QUICKLY ADDRESS IT.

1713 BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE MR. STUART YOU CAN ADDRESS WHAT I'VE ASKED YOU ON THE 1714 NEXT ITEM IF THIS PASSES AND AND COUNCIL MEMBER CALETKA, I WOULD SECOND 1715 MAYOR TRANTALIS'S MOTION.

1716 THANK YOU.

1717 UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE STILL IN DEBATE MODE AND WE HAVE SOME NEW SPEAKERS THAT HAVE 1718 NOT SPOKEN AT THIS TIME SO I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY HAVE 1719 THEIR CONCERNS ADDRESSED.

1720 A BOARD MEMBER JAFFE.

1721 YEAH.

1722 THANK YOU CHAIR.

1723 FOR ME THIS IL LOOKS LIKE I MEAN THE CITY WESTON HAS BEEN A CONTRACT CITY FOR 20 1724 PLUS YEARS AND WE'VE CONTRACTED OUT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING FOR THE LAST 20 1725 PLUS YEARS AND STAFF COMES AND APPROVES A PROJECT IF WE LIKE IT WE APPROVE IT.

1726 IF WE DON'T LIKE IT THEN WE DISAPPROVE IT AND THIS IS SOMETHING I BELIEVE THAT THE 1727 CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THIS ILL THESE FUNDS TO FUND 1728 THIS AGREEMENT AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION OF FORT LAUDERDALE GETS TO DECIDE 1729 WHETHER THEY'RE VOTING ON THE PROJECT OR NOT AND IF THE MPO IS VOTING ON A 1730 PROJECT RELATED TO THAT.

1731 IF THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FORT LAUDERDALE FEELS THEY'RE THAT'S A CONFLICT OF

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1732 INTEREST THEN I WOULD LEAVE IT BE UP TO THOSE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FORT 1733 LAUDERDALE TO RECUSE THEMSELVES AT THAT TIME IF THE VOTE COMES BEFORE THE 1734 MPO.

1735 GOING OFF TOPIC FOR 10 SECONDS FOR WHAT MAYOR HUNSCHOFSKY SAID YOU KNOW 1736 FOR ME THIS IS A REGIONAL BOARD I DO FIND IT A LITTL DIFFERENT AND EQUITABLE 1737 THAT THERE'S OUR VOTING AND NON-VOTING MEMBERS.

1738 AND ON ELECTION DAY EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT OF BROWARD COUNTY GETS THE SAME VOTE 1739 AND NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE.

1740 OK THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

1741 WE SHOULD STICK TO ACTION ITEM THREE.

1742 BOARD MEMBER RYAN.

1743 THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

1744 TO ME IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THIS DISCUSSION HAS MORPHED FROM A POSITION OF IS THERE 1745 EQUITY WITH FORT LAUDERDALE PAYING A COST FOR SERVICE SO THAT THEY CAN ENHANCE 1746 THEIR TECHNICAL EXPERTISE BY HAVING PROFESSIONAL STAFF ASSIST IN THE PROCESS OF 1747 EVALUATING ANALYZING AND WRITING WHATEVER ACTION NEEDS TO BE PROPOSED.

1748 SO THAT COULD COME UNDER CONSIDERATION HERE WE START TALKING ABOUT EQUITABLE 1749 REPRESENTATION AND THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT ITEM.

1750 SO I THINK THAT IN FAIRNESS TO THE SMALLER CITIES THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD 1751 TO CONTRACT OUT FOR FOUR FULL TIME STAFF PEOPLE FROM THE MPO AND PAY THE FIVE 1752 HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND A YEAR MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A GROUP OF MAYBE FOUR OR 1753 FIVE OR SIX OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THE 1754 CITIES AND ASSIST IN SOME OF THESE TECHNICAL DRAFTING AND ANALYSIS OF BOTH THE 1755 LOCALIZED PROJECTS AND PROJECTS THAT DEAL WITH REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY.

1756 SO THAT MAY BE A WAY TO BRING ABOUT SOME COMPROMISE HERE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO 1757 IN ANY WAY DIMINISH THE EFFORTS OF FORT LAUDERDALE TO IMPROVE THEIR 1758 TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER THA TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T STOP 1759 AT A CITY BOUNDARY.

1760 SO WHAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE FORT LAUDERDALE'S TRANSPORTATION 1761 IS GOING TO HELP WESTON SO WHEN THE RESIDENTS IN WESTON WHO LIVE IN WESTON 1762 BUT WORK IN DOWNTOWN FORT LAUDERDALE.

1763 IF TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS SOMEWHAT RELIEVED YOU BENEFIT ALSO.

1764 SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE TAKING TO PAROCHIAL OF A VIEW HERE.

1765 AND PERHAPS IF WE OPEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE TH MPO PROVIDE THAT EXTRA 1766 LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR ALL THE CITIES COLLECTIVELY WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS.

1767 THANK YOU.

1768 YOUR COMMENTS ARE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED SIR.

1769 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD.

1770 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1771 JUST VERY QUICKLY THE CONTRACT THAT'S BEFORE US IS FOR A SIX YEAR TERM? 1772 IT WAS A FIVE YEAR BUT THE ATTORNEY? 1773 IT'S FIVE YEARS.

1774 EFFECTIVE OCTOBER WELL RIGHT NOW AS IT'S DRAFTED EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 20 19 1775 RUNNING THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 2025.

1776 IT IS A PERIOD OF TIME TO ALLOW US TO HIRE PEOPLE AND GET STARTED.

1777 IS THERE A CANCELLATION PROVISION? 1778 FOR BOTH THE CITY AND OR THE MPO.

1779 AND HOW WOULD THE MPO APPLY FOR THAT CANCELLATION PROVISION? 1780 WE PROVIDE WE PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE CITY OR THE CITY CAN PROVIDE NOTICE TO US BUT 1781 THERE IS ALSO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE CONTRACT 1782 WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT BEFORE YOU IN A FINAL STATE.

1783 SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY WE'RE VOTING ON SOMETHING AND THE 1784 AGREEMENTS NOT BEFORE US.

1785 I HAVE AN ISSUE.

1786 I WAS I I DIDN'T CATCH IT WHEN I WENT BEFORE EXECUTIVE.

1787 BUT I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT AN INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT THE BOARD SHOULD 1788 GET TO SEE IT.

1789 AND BUT I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THAT CANCELLATION PROVISION IS IS 1790 IS? 1791 THAT ISN'T THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS.

1792 YOU KNOW WE'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE CANCELLATION NOTICE THE WAY 1793 IT SITS.

1794 WHAT IS IT? 1795 IT'S ONE YEAR IT'S A IT'S A NOTIFICATION BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO LET.

1796 WITHOUT CAUSE.

1797 WITHOUT CAUSE.

1798 IF WE NEED TO LET GO STAFF I MEAN THIS IS THIS BECOMES A BIG THING.

1799 SO FOR THE ORGANIZATION ITSELF IF THE TERM IF IT I TERMINATED THEN WE NEED TO 1800 MAKE SURE THE COBRA BENEFITS ARE AVAILABLE THA UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS ARE 1801 AVAILABLE AND ALL THE REST OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE TERMINATING STAFF.

1802 SO AT THAT POINT IT'S JUST COVERING ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND THE LIABILITY THAT THIS

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1803 ORGANIZATION WOULD BE FACING SHOULD THAT HAPPEN.

1804 WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BUT YOU KNO THAT'S THE WORST CASE 1805 SCENARIO.

1806 THOSE THINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY PART OF WHY TH FINALIZED VERSION ISN'T IN 1807 FRONT OF YOU.

1808 WE'RE JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH RIGHT NOW ON.

1809 IN FACT I JUST FINISHED YESTERDAY THE INSURANCES WITH THE CITY OF FORT 1810 LAUDERDALE.

1811 THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T THEY'RE TURNING ON THE INSURANCES SO I DIDN'T 1812 RECOGNIZE THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL TRUST AND THAT'S WHO WE'RE 1813 NOT SELF-INSURED.

1814 SO WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THAT IT'S JUST DETAILS LIKE THAT THAT 1815 AREN'T NECESSARILY POLICY.

1816 THANK YOU MR. STUART.

1817 AGAIN I'M NOT PRIVY TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE 1818 PENDING ISSUES BUT I THINK THAT IF THE BOARD IS GOING TO VOTE ON AN AGREEMENT 1819 THAT THAT AGREEMENT SHOULD BE A PART OF YOU KNOW AN ATTACHMENT TO THE AGENDA 1820 ITEM AND AND SO ON.

1821 AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE CANCELLATION PROVISION THAT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED WITH 1822 FORT LAUDERDALE AFFORDS A AN OPEN CANCELLATION CLAUSE WITH NO PROVISIONS AND NO 1823 REQUIREMENTS.

1824 YES MA'AM.

1825 AND NO REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE REIMBURSEMENTS.

1826 IT'S ALL PART OF THE CONTRACT.

1827 THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT SET UP TO PROVIDE THOSE PARTICULARS THAT YOU'VE 1828 HEARD.

1829 SO WHILE EVERYBODY WAS TALKING THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.

1830 SO I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT WITHOUT SEEING THE FINAL AGREEMENT.

1831 THANK YOU.

1832 OKAY.

1833 THANK YOU.

1834 BEFORE I RECOGNIZE THE NEXT MEMBER I WILL SAY THAT AS WHEN THE AGENDA WAS SET AND 1835 I CAME IN TO REVIEW MR. CROSS WAS OPTIMISTIC AS ALWAYS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A 1836 FINAL VERSION AVAILABLE BUT THE VERSION THAT CAME FROM THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE 1837 NOT JUST CHANGED.

1838 IT WAS REALLY ALMOST A BRAND NEW CONTRACT.

1839 SO IT HASN'T BEEN SET.

1840 WHICH IS WHY UNFORTUNATELY IT IS THAT IT IS A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR 1841 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND GENERAL COUNSEL.

1842 AND I DO RECOGNIZE YOUR CONCERNS AND I DIDN'T LIKE IT EITHER BUT I KNOW THAT 1843 FORT LAUDERDALE IS EAGER TO GET THE CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD AND IF THERE WAS 1844 SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS PRESENTED HERE 1845 TODAY AS CHAIR I WOULD NOT SIGN IT AND REQUIRE IT TO GO TO THE FULL BOARD FOR 1846 APPROVAL.

1847 BOARD MEMBER STONER.

1848 THANK YOU.

1849 SO I AM LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT AND I DO HAVE CONCERNS BUT SOMEONE HAD 1850 PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT THE EXECUTIVE BOARD HAD APPROVED THIS.

1851 HOW MANY ON THE EXECUTIVE BOARD? 1852 SEVEN.

1853 AND HOW MANY APPROVED IT.

1854 I BELIEVE ALL SEVEN.

1855 ALL SEVEN IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

1856 I FIND THAT AND LET ME QUOTE HERE.

1857 THE TERMINATION CLAUSE EITHER PARTY MAY TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE ON 1858 OR AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF THE INITIAL TERM WHICH IS SIX YEARS BY PROVIDING THE 1859 OTHER WITH WRITTEN NOTICE OF TERMINATION AT LEAST 180 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EFFECTIVE 1860 DATE OF THE TERMINATION.

1861 IT MAY ALSO BE TERMINATED AS OTHERWISE MUTUALLY AGREED TO BY THE PARTIES.

1862 SO IF THERE IS A CAVEAT THERE.

1863 SO WHATEVER THE END OF THE FIRST TERM IS THEN WE CAN CANCEL IT BUT WE'RE STUCK 1864 WITH THE INITIAL TERM WHICH IS QUITE EXTENSIVE.

1865 PERSONALLY I THINK THAT THE MPO HAS A FULL PLATE MORE THAN A FULL PLATE AND FOR 1866 THEM TO HAVE TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF TO ACCOMMODATE ANOTHER CITY IS 1867 I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE.

1868 AND QUITE HONESTLY IT'S A HUGE SCOPE THAT'S STILL NOT DEFINED.

1869 AND IT'S WORTH MORE THAN THIS.

1870 THE FEES FOR THE MPO IF THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT ON IS WORTH MORE THAN THIS 1871 YEARLY AMOUNT.

1872 THE EXPERTISE AND THE STAFF AND THE RESPONSIBILITY AT THE END OF THE DAY.

1873 SO EVERYTHING YOU CONSULT ON WITH THEM SOMETHING GOES WRONG.

1874 IT STILL CAN COME BACK TO YOU.

1875 WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS LITIGIOUS STUFF WORKS.

1876 SO.

1877 AND IF IT PASSES I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING THAT THEY NEED TO RECUSE 1878 THEMSELVES FROM ANY VOTES THAT ARE AS A RESULT OF THI CONTRACT.

1879 SO I THINK THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF OVERSIGHT TO GET OVER THE BLACK AND THE 1880 WHITE OF IT.

1881 THERE'S THERE'S A LOT.

1882 EVERYBODY'S HAD GREAT POINTS.

1883 I'M BUYING INTO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYBODY BUT I THIN COLLECTIVELY THIS IS A VERY 1884 DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO SET.

1885 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1886 SO.

1887 WE NOW HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS SOME OF WHICH HAVE HAVE ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED 1888 ONCE.

1889 SO I WANT TO PERUSE THE WILL OF THE BOARD ON WHETHER OR NOT WE JUST WANT TO BRING 1890 THIS BACK NEXT TIME FULLY COOKED RATHER THAN CONTINUED THE DEBATE AND 1891 ANCILLARY DEBATES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THIS TIME.

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1892 I THINK WE ALL HAVE A VERY LARGE INTEREST IN THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM AND TAKING UP 1893 30 MORE MINUTES IS NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL TO ANYBODY.

1894 CAN I JUST GET A QUICK POLL WITH THE RAISE A HAND IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF 1895 DEFERRING THIS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.

1896 IF YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON.

1897 YES YOU DID SIR.

1898 YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM.

1899 SO I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF DEFERRING THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO KILL IT.

1900 AND AND EVERY EVERY COMMENT THAT I HEAR THIS MORNING I' REALLY NOT SURE HOW 1901 SUBSTANTIVE THEY ARE AS OPPOSED TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR 1902 EXCUSES TO TRY TO UNDERMINE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THAT'S BEING PRESENTED TODAY.

1903 I MEAN OBVIOUSLY FROM THE SENSE OF THE BOARD THEY WANT TO MOVE IT TO TO ANOTHER TO 1904 THE NEXT MEETING OR A MEETING AFTERWARDS.

1905 BUT IT TIES OUR HANDS AGAIN MAYBE ANOTHER MONTH MAYBE TWO MONTHS AS WE TRY AS A 1906 CITY TO TRY TO MOVE FORWARD.

1907 OUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

1908 THIS IS NOT GOOD FOLKS.

1909 WE'RE HERE TO WORK TOGETHER.

1910 I'M NOT TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO HURT 1911 YOUR CITIES.

1912 AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING IT TO US BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVERY DOT EVERY I IS NOT DOTTED 1913 OR T CROSSED AND I UNDERSTAND I'M AN ATTORNEY I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

1914 I ALSO HAVE FAITH IN OUR STAFF THAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT THE 1915 INTENT OF THIS BOARD IS.

1916 MR. MAYOR IF YOU WILL.

1917 THIS IS WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO.

1918 THIS HAS GONE ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I SEE THERE'S OTHER SPEAKERS AND I'M 1919 SORRY.

1920 I WON'T LET YOU KNOW THERE'S NOBODY UP HERE THAT I HAVE NOTHING BUT THE 1921 GREATEST RESPECT FOR.

1922 BUT WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA TO MOVE ON ESPECIALLY THE NEXT ITEM SO THIS IS WHAT I'M 1923 GOING TO SAY.

1924 I KNOW THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WARNING SPEAK.

1925 WE'VE HAD AMPLE DEBATE AT THIS TIME.

1926 IF YOU CAN PLEASE HOLD ON.

1927 I'M JUST GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL A VOTE FOR THIS ITEM AND IF EVERYBODY WON'T MAKE 1928 PUSH A MOTION I'LL ALLOW THE MAYOR TELL US TO PUSH THE MOTION TO APPROVE SINCE 1929 IT THIS AGENDA ITEM.

1930 IF WE CAN MOVE TO THAT AND YOU CAN PUSH THIS MOTION.

1931 MR. CHAIR YOU'RE CALLING THE VOTE ON THIS.

1932 YES ABSOLUTELY.

1933 DOING SO.

1934 CORRECT.

1935 MOTION TO APPROVE.

1936 SO THIS IS A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 3.

1937 YOU CAN VOTE YES.

1938 I JUST PERUSE I MEAN THE MEMBERSHIP AND SOME WANTED TO SOME DIDN'T BUT THEY 1939 OBJECTED WITH FORT LAUDERDALE.

1940 SO WE ARE GOING TO CALL A VOTE.

1941 THIS IS IF YOU VOTE YES IT IS APPROVING THE PLANNING CONTRACT FOR FORT 1942 LAUDERDALE.

1943 IF YOU VOTE NO IT'S TO NOT APPROVE THE CONTRACT AND S GENERAL COUNSEL CAN YOU 1944 TELL US WHOSE VOTE WILL NOT COUNT FOR THIS VOTE.

1945 YES IR HAVE 29 PRESENT.

1946 SO [INAUDIBLE] LIGHTHOUSE POINT IN PEMBROKE PARK VOT WILL NOT COUNT BUT PLEASE 1947 VOTE YES.

1948 OKAY.

1949 ARE WE READY FOR THE VOTE? 1950 OK.

1951 PLEASE VOTE ON ACTION ITEM 3.

1952 OK IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON THE DAIS RIGHT NOW VOTED.

1953 IT LOOKS LIKE THE ITEM HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE MEMBERSHIP.

1954 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1955 OK.

[4. DISCUSSION AND MOTION(S): A. Fourth Amendment to Interlocal Agreement for Creation of the Broward County Metropolitan Planning Organization (i) Allowing Alternates for the Broward County Board of County Commissioner MPO Board Members; (ii) Directing MPO General Counsel and Executive Director to Acquire the Necessary Approvals From the Parties to the Agreement and to Process/Record Appropriate Documents as Needed B. Amendments to the Rules of the Broward Metropolitan Planning Organization (BMPO) to be Effective Upon Approval of the Fourth Amendment by a Majority of its Members]

1956 WE ARE MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM 4.

1957 AND BEFORE WE BEGIN I WANT TO SET SOME GROUND RULES BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS THE 1958 LAST TWO TIMES THAT THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED THERE WAS GREAT PASSION INVOLVED.

1959 AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE ABUNDANTLY TRANSPARENT ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED.

1960 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN ANTICIPATING DUE TO THE RECONSIDERATION BY 1961 BOARD MEMBER UDINE.

1962 AND SO WHAT.

1963 THESE ARE THE GROUND RULES I'M LAYING I'M GOING TO ALLOW TWO FULL ROUNDS OF 1964 MEMBERS TO SPEAK.

1965 SO EVERYBODY YOU'LL HAVE AT LEAST TWO ROUNDS AND THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS DECISION.

1966 THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL.

1967 AND IF SOMEBODY BECOMES INFLAMMATORY OR LACKS CIVILITY I'M GOING TO WARN 1968 THEM IF IT OCCURS FURTHER I WILL STRIP THEIR FLOOR PRIVILEGES AND THERE'S A 1969 PROCESS CALLED OBJECTING TO THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR THAT THE MEMBERSHIP CAN VOTE 1970 ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO REINSTATE THOSE FLOOR PRIVILEGES SO PLEASE BE 1971 RESPECTFUL WE DO HAVE A CIVILITY ACCORD THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY BOARD 1972 MEMBER SOFIELD QUITE SOME TIME AGO.

1973 IT WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY.

1974 SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE GENERAL COUNSEL READ THE ITEM THEN SINCE IT WAS 1975 BOARD MEMBER UDINE THAT HAD RAISED THE QUESTION OF RECONSIDERATION I WILL.

1976 I WILL RECOGNIZE HIM FIRST IF HE WISHES TO DEFER TO ONE OF HIS COLLEAGUES I WILL 1977 ACCEPT THAT THEN WE WILL HAVE THE DEBATE AND IF NECESSARY I WILL PAUSE THE 1978 MEETING FOR THREE MINUTES.

1979 IF SOMEBODY HAS LEFT THE DAIS SO THAT THEY CAN RETURN AND VOTE FOR THE 1980 TWENTY FIVE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE.

1981 SO I WANT TO CLEAR THE QUEUE AND AT THIS TIME GENERAL COUNSEL WILL

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1982 YOU PLEASE READ ACTION ITEM 4 PARTS A AND B.

1983 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

1984 THERE ARE IN FACT TWO PARTS TO THIS.

1985 A AND B.

1986 PART A IS FOURTH AMENDMENT IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR CREATION OF THE BROWARD 1987 COUNTY METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION ALLOWING ALTERNATES FOR THE BROWARD 1988 COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MPO BOARD MEMBERS DIRECTING MPO 1989 GENERAL COUNSEL AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO ACQUIRE THE NECESSARY 1990 APPROVALS FOR THE PARTIES TO THE AGREEMENT AND THE PROCESS AND RECORD THE 1991 APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTS AS NEEDED IF ADOPTED.

1992 THAT IS PART A PART B IS TO IF IN FACT A IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND BY THE 1993 MEMBERS A MOMENT TO THE RULE OF BROWARD METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION TO BE 1994 EFFECTIVE UPON APPROVAL.

1995 THE FOURTH AMENDMENT BY MAJORITY OF ITS MEMBERS.

1996 OKAY.

1997 AND I BELIEVE THAT STAFF BETWEEN GENERAL COUNSEL AND MR. STUART IS GOING TO 1998 PROVIDE A BRIEF HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS FOURTH AMENDMENT.

1999 ALL RIGHT WITH THAT SAID I JUST WANT TO DO A REALLY BRIEF HISTORY ON HOW WE ARE 2000 AT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT.

2001 THIS ALL ACTUALLY BEGAN WITH THE CENSUS AND THE WHAT IS REQUIRED AT IT AFTER EVERY 2002 CENSUS IS ACTUALLY A RE ANALYZING OF THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP OF THE MPO THE 2003 MPO ITSELF WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1974.

2004 IT WAS ACTUALLY TEN YEARS LATE IN ITS CREATION.

2005 THERE WAS QUITE A DEBATE IN BROWARD COUNTY AT THE TIME FROM WHAT WE FOUND IN THE 2006 SENTINEL THAT ACTUALLY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE CREATION OF AN MPO THE FEDERAL 2007 GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY STOPPED FUNDING IN BROWARD COUNTY AND REFUSED TO GIVE MONEY 2008 TO THE FIVE CITIES AS WELL AS THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT FOR FEDERAL PROJECTS 2009 INCLUDING FDOT.

2010 THE [INAUDIBLE] WAS CREATED IN 1974 AND IT CONTINUED ON WITH THE FIVE LARGE CITIES 2011 AS WELL AS THE COUNTY VOTING ON THE MPO IN THE 2000 CENSUS TIMEFRAME.

2012 THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE MPO CHANGED.

2013 IT WAS A DECISION BASED ON THE ANNEXATION AND CREATION OF MULTIPLE CITIES OVER 2014 FIFTY THOUSAND WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REQUIREMENT IN FEDERAL 2015 STATUTE THAT AN MPO ACTUALLY HAVE MEMBERSHIP OF FIFTY THOUSAND OR MORE 2016 RECOGNIZING WITH THE ANNEXATION OF ALL THE COMMUNITIES HERE AND I WAS 2017 ON THE COUNTY SIDE AT THE TIME ENCOURAGING EVERY CITY TO BE EITHER CREATED OR 2018 ANNEXED INTO AN AREA.

2019 THERE WAS A GREAT EFFORT ON MAYOR CAPLIN AT THE TIME TO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HOW TO 2020 CREATE AN INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY WHERE THERE WOULD BE AN ALTERNATE VOTING 2021 SYSTEM FOR ALL OF THE CITIES AND FIVE DISTRICTS WERE CREATED IN 2000.

2022 COMMISSIONER JAFFE OVER IN WESTON HE WAS ACTUALLY ADDED AS A MEMBER OR THE 2023 CITY OF WESTERN WAS ADDED IN THE MEMBER AFTER THAT IN 2000.

2024 BY 2010 THERE WAS A SECONDARY CENSUS THAT WAS DONE AND WE RECOGNIZED THE 2025 FIVE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES REMAINED STABLE IN THEIR TOTAL POPULATION AND THE 2026 REPRESENTATION OF EACH.

2027 MAYOR I RECALL THAT TIME COMMISSIONER MARTY KERA ACTUALLY SERVED ON THE 2028 GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE MAYOR ORTIZ WAS CHAIRING THAT COMMITTEE AT THE TIME AND 2029 THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF HOW MANY MEMBERS THERE SHOULD BE AND THEN THE 2030 VOTING STRUCTURE ITSELF.

2031 DURING THAT SAME DEBATE AND OUR FRIENDS IN TALLAHASSEE MADE A CHANGE TO FLORIDA 2032 AND ALABAMA ARE THE ONLY TWO STATES IN THE COUNTRY THAT LIMIT THE SIZE OF 2033 MPO'S TO MEMBER VOTING MEMBERS.

2034 AND AT THAT TIME THE MPO LEGISLATION CHAPTER 339 WHICH WAS REFERRED TO BY 2035 COMMISSIONER SHAREEF WAS ACTUALLY LIMITED TO 19 MEMBERS I.E. THAT'S WHY THE 2036 VOTING DISTRICTS AND THE ALTERNATES WERE CREATED IN AT THAT EXACT SAME TIME.

2037 ORLANDO TAMPA JACKSONVILLE AND ST. PETERSBURG WENT TO THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE AND 2038 PETITIONED THEM TO INCREASE THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP TO 25.

2039 THAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED BY THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE.

2040 AND AT THAT SAME TIME THE REDISTRICTING CONVERSATION WAS NO LONGER IN PLAY.

2041 HOWEVER THE VOTING MEMBERSHIP COULD BE EXPANDED VOTE.

2042 A THIRD AMENDMENT WAS DRAFTED DOING SO AND WAS PROVIDED APPROVED BY THIS 2043 BOARD NOT UNANIMOUSLY BUT PRETTY DARN CLOSE.

2044 AND THEN THAT ACTUALLY WENT TO ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

2045 AND AS OUR GENERAL COUNSEL REMEMBERS THAT WAS ACTUALLY APPROVED ABOUT 75 PERCENT OF 2046 THE TOTAL MEMBERS APPROVED THAT IN OUR LOCAL AGREEMENT DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD 2047 THE COUNTY COMMISSION DID NOT NECESSARILY TAKE UP THE THIRD AMENDMENT AT THEIR 2048 COMMISSION TO EITHER SAY UP OR DOWN TO TAKE A MOTION ON IT.

2049 AND AT THAT TIME THERE WAS DEBATE BETWEEN BOTH THE GENERAL COUNSEL HERE AND 2050 THE GENERAL COUNSEL FOR BROWARD COUNTY ON THAT STRUCTURE.

2051 COMMISSIONER FIRTH JOINED OUR BOARD AS THE FIFTH MEMBER BECAUSE ONE OF THE 2052 THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME AS WE ADD AN ADDITIONAL COUNTY 2053 REPRESENTATIVE TO KEEP THE REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA STATUTE 339 BALANCED.

2054 AND COMMISSIONER 4 DID A [INAUDIBLE] LIFT IN TRYING TO FIND WHAT WAS THE THING

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2055 THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR SO BROWARD COUNTY COULD ALSO SIGN OFF ON EITHER THE THIRD 2056 AMENDMENT AND WE CREATED THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT HAS NOW BEEN 2057 DEBATED BY THIS BOARD MULTIPLE TIMES AND WITH THAT THAT'S THE BRIEF 2058 HISTORY OF WHERE WE ARE.

2059 AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY GOING INTO THE FUTURE THAT GUESS WHAT 2060 WE'RE GOING TO GET TO DO THIS AGAIN IN 2000.

2061 2020 EXCUSE ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE NEXT CENSUS IS DONE.

2062 AND WITH THAT CENSUS TWO YEARS LATER WE HAVE TO CONVENE A REAPPORTIONMENT 2063 HEARING.

2064 AND SO GOVERNANCE WILL HAVE TO BE RECONVENED AND WE'RE GONNA GET TO HAVE THE SAME 2065 DEBATE ALL OVER AGAIN UNLESS THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE REMOVES THE CAP THE LARGEST 2066 MPO IN THE NATION WITH VOTING MEMBERS AS IN THE CITY IS IN DETROIT.

2067 IT HAS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY VOTING MEMBERS AND THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE 2068 BOARD.

2069 AND THE CLOSEST NEIGHBOR THAT ACTUALLY HAS A LARGER BOARD THAN US IS IS ATLANTA 2070 GEORGIA.

2071 THE ATLANTA REGIONAL COMMISSION HAS OVER 50 VOTING MEMBERS AND THEY 2072 HAVE TWO TWO TIER DIOCESES THAT FACE EACH OTHER AND IT'S AN INTERESTING DEBATE 2073 CHAMBER TO WATCH.

2074 BUT LIKE US YOU KNOW A MAJORITY OF OUR VOTES ARE USUALLY UNANIMOUS.

2075 AND WITH THAT MR. GENERAL COUNSEL.

2076 I GUESS MR. CHAIRMAN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HAS SPOKEN A GREAT HISTORY AS TO 2077 WHERE WE ARE.

2078 I CAN GO INTO THE DETAIL OF THE ACTUAL DISTRICTS AND WHAT NOT BUT IT'S NOT 2079 NECESSARY AT THIS POINT.

2080 I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AN LET'S HEAR THIS IS THEIR 2081 PROPOSAL.

2082 LET'S HEAR FROM THEM AND THEN I'LL FOLLOW UP AS NECESSARY.

2083 OK.

2084 THANK YOU.

2085 I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF TH FACT THAT THERE WILL BE AN 2086 AMENDMENT OFFERED SO AFTER THE DEBATE BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE I WILL RECOGNIZE 2087 BOARD MEMBER RYAN FOR THAT AMENDMENT.

2088 SO SINCE IT WAS YOUR RECONSIDERATION BOARD MEMBER UDINE EITHER YOU CAN PRESENT 2089 YOUR CASE OR YOU CAN DEFER IT TO COUNTY REPRESENTATIV FOR IF YOU WISH.

2090 YOU HAVE TO PUSH THE REQUEST TO SPEAK AND I CAN RECOGNIZE THAT THERE YOU 2091 GO.

2092 GOOD MORNING OR CLOSE TO A GOOD MORNING STILL.

2093 GOOD MORNING.

2094 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE ATTORNEY EXPLAINED SOME OF THIS.

2095 I HAD HAD AN EXCUSED ABSENCE SO I WAS THE I HAD SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION 2096 PRIOR TO THE MEETING WHEN THIS WAS VOTED ON LAST TIME.

2097 MY UNDERSTANDING IT OCCURRED AT THE END OF THE MEETING THERE WERE VERY FEW PEOPLE 2098 THAT WERE STILL LEFT AND IT WAS KIND OF ONE OF THESE WE WANT TO KIND OF MOVE ON AND 2099 GET OUT OF HERE.

2100 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS TO BE.. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS TO BE 2101 RECONSIDERED.

2102 THIS FOURTH AMENDMENT FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE ALLOWS US AS BROWARD COUNTY 2103 COMMISSIONERS TO USE THE BALANCE OF OUR COUNTY COMMISSION AS ALL ALTERNATE 2104 MEMBERS IN CASE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER CAN'T BE HERE OR IS NOT.

2105 IT NEEDS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE TO BE HERE.

2106 WE CAN PUT SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE COUNTY IN HERE TO CONTINUE THE COUNTY'S 2107 PERSPECTIVE AND DISCUSSION OF THE REGIONALISM OF THIS BOARD.

2108 I MEAN THE BROWARD COUNTY COMMISSION REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND OUR 2109 VIEWPOINT ON THIS IS THEORETICALLY SUPPOSED TO RECOGNIZE COUNTY 2110 TRANSPORTATION NEEDS FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT AN 2111 INDIVIDUAL CITY WAS TO VOTE ON FOR THAT PARTICULAR CITY BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THE 2112 BOUNDARY LINES TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND LINES DON'T END AT 2113 MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES.

2114 I THINK THAT THIS IS A QUESTION OF IN SOME RESPECT FAIRNESS.

2115 I MEAN THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTING MEMBERS ON THIS 2116 BOARD.

2117 THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS FOUR AND THEN THE ONE ADDITIONAL THROUGH THE 2118 SFRTA.

2119 SO THIS WOULD JUST AS A FAIRNESS PROVISION FOR THE COUNTY TO ALLOW ALTERNATE 2120 MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO VOTE WHEN A COUNTY COMMISSIONER CAN'T 2121 MAKE IT.

2122 AND WITH THAT I'LL DEFER TO COMMISSIONER FARR WHO IS THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE ON 2123 THE MPO COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE.

2124 I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT IS THAT CORRECT? 2125 I DO.

2126 IF YOU COULD BRING THAT UP THAT'D BE GREAT.

2127 THAT WAS FAST.

2128 [LAUGHING] THANKS.

2129 WELL OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN ON THIS WHOLE TOPIC ALL DAY KINDA BUT BEFORE I BEFORE I 2130 START I DO WANT TO THANK ANGELA AND ALAN NOT ONLY FOR THE WORK UP FOR THE 2131 FIRST MAN ON THE OTHER STUFF WITH THE SURTAX STUFF BUT FOR YOU ALL I'VE BEEN 2132 WORKING ON THIS ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF NOW AND I APPRECIATE IT.

2133 I ALSO APPRECIATE THE EXECUTIVE BOARD PASSING THIS TODAY WE'RE RECONSIDERING 2134 AN AMENDMENT TO THE LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT BINDS US TOGETHER AS AN 2135 ORGANIZATION.

2136 THAT AGREEMENT NOT ONLY STIPULATES WHO IS PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT BUT HOW THE 2137 VOTES ARE APPORTIONED.

2138 SO WE COME HERE TODAY BECAUSE THERE'S SOME UNRESOLVED ISSUES THAT HAVE 2139 BEEN DOGGING US.

2140 WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THEM BEHIND US SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AND IMPOOVE 2141 THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS.

2142 IT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS THAT AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.

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2143 VOTING FOR THIS AMENDMENT TO THE LOCAL PUTS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES BEHIND US.

2144 WHAT ARE THOSE ISSUES.

2145 COUNTY COMMISSION IN THE SFRTA HAVE NOT YET.

2146 HAVE NOT AS YET SIGNED OFF ON THE THIRD ON THE EXPANSION FROM 19 TO 25.

2147 MEMBERS.

2148 THAT IS STILL THAT IS STILL UNSIGNED JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

2149 WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE SCREEN.

2150 OUR FORMER COUNTY ATTORNEY WAS OF THE OPINION THAT WHILE THE MPO WAS IN ITS 2151 LEGAL RIGHT TO DO A REAPPORTIONMENT THAT MEANS FIGURING OUT WHO THE 2152 ALTERNATE AND ALL THAT BUT SHE DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WAS A AT THE TIME THAT 2153 WAS [INAUDIBLE] THAT THE ACTUAL EXPANSION THAT YOU COULD DO A REAPPORTIONMENT 2154 THROUGH A MAJORITY VOTE BUT NOT THE ACTUAL EXPANSION OF NUMBERS OF VOTING MEMBERS 2155 THAT ACCORDING TO THE FIRST INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT SECTION 72 WHICH YOU SEE 2156 RIGHT IN FRONT FRONT OF YOU REQUIRED FOR THAT EXPANSION AMENDMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS 2157 OF THIS AGREEMENT MAY ONLY BE MADE BY WRITTEN AGREEMENT SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES.

2158 IT HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED.

2159 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED.

2160 SO WE NEVER SAID WE HAVEN'T SIGNED IT BUT WE HAVEN'T CONTESTED IT YET EITHER.

2161 SO WHY SHOULD THERE BE SOME CONCERN.

2162 THAT REQUIRES GOING BACK IN HISTORY A LITTLE BIT LIKE 20 YEARS AND TAKING A LOOK 2163 AT THAT STATUTE THE STATUTE IS THREE THIRTY NINE POINT ONE SEVEN FIVE AND THAT 2164 GOVERNS MPOS IN GENERAL.

2165 AND IT SAYS AND YOU'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR SCREEN THAT AT 2166 LEAST ONE THIRD OF THE MPO GOVERNING BOARD SHOULD BE COUNTY COMMISSION.

2167 IF ALL IF THAT WAS THE CASE RIGHT NOW ALL NINE MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION 2168 WOULD BE ON THIS MPO.

2169 THAT IS THE WAY THAT'S THE STATUTE THAT GOVERNS US.

2170 HOWEVER BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE SFRTA THAT ALLOWS THAT TO BE 2171 REDUCED TO 20 PERCENT THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LAST PART OF THAT WHEN THAT 2172 HAPPENED BACK BACK IN IN 2000 OR 1999 THERE REALLY WASN'T AN EXPECTATION THAT 2173 THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOULD ALSO BE THE SFRTA PERSON.

2174 IN OTHER WORDS BECAUSE THERE'S A CONFLICT THERE AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT IF 2175 THERE'S A CONFLICT COMING UP SFRTA IS ASKING THE COUNTY FOR FOUR MILLION DOLLARS TO 2176 DO THIS RAIL RIGHT OUT HERE.

2177 I DON'T KNOW WHAT [INAUDIBLE] BUT GOOD LUCK ON THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S 2178 PUTTING THAT PERSON IN A IN A QUANDARY.

2179 THAT'S ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A SEPARATE PERSON.

2180 THERE SHOULD BE.

2181 BUT.

2182 AND THE REASON WE ALLOW FOR THAT TO GO BACK IN THAT TIME AND THIS IS ON US 2183 COUNTY COMMISSION DID THE COUNTY COMMISSION WAS NOT THAT INTERESTED IN BEING ON 2184 THE MPO.

2185 THAT'S ON US.

2186 AND SO WE ALLOWED AND WE WENT TO THE GOVERNOR I GUES AND ALLOWED FOR THE 2187 SFRTA TO ALSO BE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER TO ACHIEVE THE 20 PERCENT.

2188 OTHERWISE IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE THREE THAT WE'RE ON IT'S NOT 20 PERCENT.

2189 IT'S NOT EVEN THE MINIMUM.

2190 OK.

2191 BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMISSION.

2192 IT'S A DIFFERENT COUNTY COMMISSION.

2193 IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME IT'S DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND IT'S DIFFERENT STAKES AND I DON'T 2194 THINK THIS COUNTY COMMISSION FEELS THE SAME WAY.

2195 SO THE COUNTY HAS NOT SIGNED ON TO THIS AGREEMENT YET.

2196 NEITHER HAS SFRTA AND I SAY THIS AS PART OF THE BACKDRO BACKDROP TO THE ITEM BEFORE 2197 US AND A WINDOW INTO WHAT I WAS THINKING WHEN I WENT TO THE TREAT LAST YEAR IN 2198 WILTON MANNERS AND SAW FOR THE FIRST TIME THE PICTURE OF THE CURRENT MPO DISTRICT 2199 MAP.

2200 FIRST TIME I SAW THIS RIGHT HERE.

2201 I JUST APPOINTED MYSELF TO THE MPO BOARD.

2202 I WAS THE MAYOR AT THE TIME.

2203 IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE A SURTAX OF 2016 HAD GONE DOWN IN FLAMES AND I WAS TRYING 2204 TO THINK OF HOW TO REVIVE AND DO EVERYTHING WE COULD TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE SO 2205 WE COULD PASS A TRANSPORTATION SURTAX AND HAVE THE RESOURCES 2206 NECESSARY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

2207 AND THAT'S KIND OF WHEN I HAD MY OWN EUREKA MOMENT AND I REALIZED THAT NOT 2208 EVERYONE ELSE HAS HAD THIS SAME EUREKA MOMENT BUT I HAVE I LOOKED AT THIS MAP 2209 AND I AND I SAID WELL WHY DON'T WE HAVE ONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN EACH 2210 DISTRICT WHY NOT JUST HAVE ONE IN EACH ONE SO THAT SO WITH SO THAT SO THAT YOU'RE 2211 WORKING TOGETHER THERE AND I SAW GREG THERE AS SOON WHEN I WALKED IN I'M GONE.

2212 THIS WOULD MAKE IT SO EASY.

2213 THAT WAY THE COUNTY IS COVERED ENTIRELY WITH BOTH MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY 2214 PERSPECTIVES.

2215 I HAD NOT REALIZED I HAD NOT REALIZED THAT WE WERE GOVERNING WITH THAT WE WERE 2216 SUPPOSED TO GOVERN OURSELVES BY DISTRICTS.

2217 THIS IS GOES WAY BACK TO I THINK MAYOR KAPLAN RIGHT.

2218 SO JUST BY SHOW OF HANDS WHO IS HERE FROM DISTRICT 1.

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2219 RAISE YOUR HAND FROM DISTRICT 1.

2220 WHO'S HERE FROM DISTRICT 2.

2221 ANYBODY HERE FROM DISTRICT 3.

2222 IS ANYBODY FROM DISTRICT 4.

2223 IS ANYBODY FROM DISTRICT 5.

2224 OK.

2225 AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE IN.

2226 NOBODY KNOWS WHAT DISTRICT THEY'RE IN AND YOU'RE VOTING THAT WAY.

2227 YOU HAD ALL KIND OF VOTES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

2228 WE ARE ABOUT TO VOTE.

2229 WE VOTED TO PASS THE THE LONG RANGE 2045 PLAN.

2230 THE DRAFT I HOPE EACH DISTRICT HAD A CHANCE TO GO AND THOSE DISTRICTS 2231 CONFERRED AND FIGURED IT ALL OUT.

2232 SO YOU HAD YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT.

2233 I HOPE YOU ALL DID THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

2234 YOU WERE VOTING BY DISTRICTS AND WHETHER OR NOT AND I'VE HEARD THIS ALL DAY 2235 WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE AN ALTERNATE OR A REGULAR VOTING MEMBER.

2236 YOU ARE EXPECTED TO VOICE YOUR PERSPECTIVE FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR DISTRICT NOT 2237 YOUR CITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF YOUR DISTRICT.

2238 ACCORDING TO THE STRUCTURE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONE CITY VOTING AND ONE CITY 2239 NOT VOTING.

2240 THAT IS NOT THE STRUCTURE THAT WE EXISTS UNDER.

2241 YOU ARE VOTING BY DISTRICTS YOU ARE REPRESENTING THE DISTRICT NOT YOUR CITY.

2242 TAKE THAT.

2243 WE TAKE DIFFERENT HATS OFF.

2244 I DON'T.

2245 I DON'T GO TO THE COUNTY AS DISTRICT 6.

2246 I AM VOTING FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

2247 WHEN YOU VOTE IN THE MPO YOU'RE VOTING AS A DISTRICT PART OF A REGION PART OF AN 2248 AREA WITH LIKE MINDED CONCERNS AND ISSUES.

2249 AND WHEN YOU AND WHEN I HEARD TODAY 34 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE OF THE MEMBERS 2250 ARE NOT VOTING.

2251 YOU ARE VOTING.

2252 YOU ARE VOTING AS A DISTRICT AND YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING WITHIN THAT 2253 DISTRICT SO THAT YOUR VOICE IS HEARD.

2254 FOR INSTANCE IN DISTRICT FOUR THE VOTING MEMBERS ARE DICK BLATTNER FROM 2255 HOLLYWOOD AND MICHELLE [INAUDIBLE] FROM HALLANDALE BEACH.

2256 BILL HARRIS.

2257 BILL IS THE ALTERNATE.

2258 THAT'S A TEAM THAT IS THE DISTRICT 4 TEAM.

2259 IN A PERFECT WORLD THEIR CITY MANAGERS HAVE CONFERRED ON THE TIP ON THE 2260 2045 PLAN ON THE MULTIMODAL PLAN AND ALL COME TO CONSENSUS ON THOSE 2261 PRIORITIES.

2262 SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS VOTING.

2263 THEY SHOULD ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

2264 NOW IMAGINE IN THE SAME SCENARIO YOU HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN EACH ONE OF 2265 THOSE DISTRICTS.

2266 YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THAT COUNTY 2267 COMMISSIONER AND YOU ADD THEM TO YOUR TEAM.

2268 HERE'S A LOOK ON LOOK ON THE SCREEN AND THIS IS.

2269 THIS IS THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

2270 THESE ARE YOUR VOTING MEMBERS FOR DISTRICT 1 2 3 4 5.

2271 AND UNFORTUNATELY LOOK ON THAT 6 BLOCK OVER THERE.

2272 YOU GOT SOME PEOPLE JUST KIND OF HANGING OUT AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF THOSE 2273 DISTRICTS AND THEY SHOULD BE AND WHAT YOU WANT IS YOU HAVE YOU WANT ONE COUNTY 2274 COMMISSIONER IN EACH DISTRICT FIGHTING FOR YOU AND WITH YOU THAT'S WHAT YOU 2275 WANT BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR TEAM TO WIN.

2276 YOU WANT YOUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR YOUR PRIORITIES THERE.

2277 SO YOU ADAM TO YOUR TEAM THE PROJECTS YOU'RE PUTTING FORTH THAT AFFECT YOU AND 2278 THE NEIGHBORING CITIES HAVE A BLOCK OF SUPPORT UPON WHICH TO BUILD.

2279 THAT IS HOW THE BROWARD COUNTY MPO THROUGH ITS UNIQUE DISTRICT STRUCTURE 2280 PROVIDES FOR A FAIR DISTRIBUTION.

2281 THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN IN HERE TODAY ABOUT AN EQUITY.

2282 THIS IS YOUR EQUITY.

2283 THIS IS HOW YOU GET A FAIR DISTRIBUTION.

2284 HAVE I LOST ANYBODY YET.

2285 I'M STILL LISTENING.

2286 OKAY.

2287 ALL RIGHT.

2288 ANYWAY LIKE I SAID THIS WAS MY EUREKA MOMENT AND I KNOW IT MIGHT NOT BE YEARS BUT I 2289 HAVE HEARD THE CONCERN THAT THE SMALLER CITIES WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO 2290 VOTE.

2291 IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE AN ALTERNATE WHEN NEEDED AND 2292 THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO THAT BECAUSE I'M AN EXCEPTION THAT WAS MADE TO THE RULE 2293 WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2002 AND THAT RULE SAYS THI AND THIS IS WHAT IS CAUSING 2294 THIS ONE IS IS WHAT IS CAUSING US ALL A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTACHE.

2295 IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT SCRATCHED OUT.

2296 THE ALTERNATE VOTING MEMBERS HERE NOW INSTEAD OF JUST GOING BY DISTRICT I HEARD 2297 AND I WAS LISTENING AS BRIAN WAS ASKING WHO'S NEXT VOTING.

2298 AND I HEARD THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW FRANK ORTIZ IS NOT HERE.

2299 SO I LOOKED ON DISTRICT CAN YOU GO BACK TO THIS SLIDE.

2300 OK.

2301 I LOOKED FOR.

2302 HE'S IN DISTRICT 5.

2303 FRANK'S NOT HERE.

2304 THE NEXT ALTERNATE SHOULD BE COOPER CITY BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I HEARD.

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2305 THAT'S NOT WHO WAS PUT UP AS THE NEXT VOTING MEMBER BECAUSE I THINK AND AND 2306 CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG I THINK YOU.

2307 I THINK WE HAVE STARTED GOING BY POPULATION AS OPPOSED TO DISTRICT.

2308 TELL ME IF I'M WRONG MY WRONG YOU'RE WRONG.

2309 ALL RIGHT I'M WRONG.

2310 ALL RIGHT.

2311 I COULD BE WRONG.

2312 THERE'S VERY GOOD POSSIBILITY BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

2313 SO I THOUGHT WELL WHAT [INAUDIBLE] I'M ON MY WAY.

2314 OK.

2315 CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT NEXT SLIDE? 2316 SO THIS IS THE RULE.

2317 AND THERE'S ALSO A THING ON HERE THAT I BET THE CITIES DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.

2318 AND THE FACT IS RIGHT NOW INSTEAD OF LIKE WHEN A DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE 2319 ISN'T THERE YOU WOULD YOU WOULD HOPE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER 2320 YOU'VE BEEN CONFERRING THAT THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES IN IS ONE OF YOUR TEAM 2321 MEMBERS NOT SOMEBODY FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE.

2322 AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE LET'S SAY HILLSBORO BEACH COMES IN TO VOTE.

2323 AND SO PATTY LET'S SAY YOU'RE NOT HERE.

2324 SUDDENLY HILLSBORO BEACH DOESN'T HAVE ONE SCHOOL IN.

2325 ASSUMING THE SCHOOL BOARD PERSPECTIVE.

2326 THAT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

2327 OR LET'S SAY LAZY LIKES COMES AND I'M NOT HERE AND SUDDENLY LAZY LAKES IS 2328 TAKING THE ENTIRE COUNTY COMMISSION.

2329 THEY GOT SIX PEOPLE ON THAT LIST.

2330 SO OK.

2331 THEY ARE NOW ASSUMING THE ENTIRE COUNTY COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE.

2332 RIGHT.

2333 SO WE SHOULD BE OPERATING AS DISTRICTS BECAUSE WE HAV SHARED CORRIDORS WE HAVE 2334 BUS ROUTES WE HAVE TRANSIT AUDIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT MOBILITY HUBS.

2335 THERE ARE THERE ARE THEY ARE GOING TO BE GIVEN EXTRA WEIGHT NOW WHEN IT COMES TO 2336 DISTRIBUTING DISTRIBUTING RESOURCES AND SURTAX MONEYS ALL THAT STUFF YOU'RE 2337 HEARING TODAY ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING PRIORITIZATION THAT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED 2338 BY DISTRICTS.

2339 [INAUDIBLE].

2340 OK I'M GOING TO BE REAL QUICK AND I'LL MAKE MOTION AND THEN WE CAN VOTE REAL 2341 QUICK BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GONNA WANNA TALK.

2342 NO MOTION.

2343 AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME AND YOU KNOW IT' EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LAST 2344 TIME AND WE'VE ENDED UP HAVING ONLY HAVING 19 PEOPLE LEFT [INAUDIBLE] OK SO I'M 2345 GOING TO FINISH AND MAYBE WE DEFER THE VOTE TILL NEXT TIME.

2346 THE IDEA THAT [INAUDIBLE] YEAH.

2347 OK.

2348 THE IDEA THE DISTRICT AND REGIONALIZATION HAS BEEN AT THE HEART OF THE MPO SINCE 2349 THE VERY FIRST IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT.

2350 AND IT'S WHY WE TAKE OFF OUR CITY AND COUNTY HATS.

2351 THIS WAS THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL DISTRICTS.

2352 THIS IS THE WAY IT LOOKS NOW.

2353 HERE'S WHAT THIS IS WHAT IT DOES DO.

2354 BY PASSING THIS TODAY.

2355 WE ONCE AGAIN WILL ALL BE SIGNATORIES TO THIS AGREEMENT.

2356 WE'RE NOT NOW.

2357 THIS DOES IT.

2358 WE ALL SIGN ON TOGETHER.

2359 IT ENSURES THAT THERE ARE RELATIVE VOTING STRENGTHS WHICH IS IN THE STATUTE 2360 FROM THE STATE IT REQUIRES.

2361 IT PROVIDES WHERE PERSPECTIVES AND STRENGTHS TO BE MAINTAINED.

2362 IT WILL SUPPORT AND BOLSTER THE DISTRICT PERSPECTIVES THAT WILL AID IN THE 2363 DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL.

2364 WHAT IT DOES NOT DO.

2365 IT DOES NOT DIMINISH THE SMALLER CITIES PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THOSE ARE 2366 REPRESENTED BY THE DISTRICTS NOT BY INDIVIDUAL CITIES.

2367 SO TODAY I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT IS PRESENTED 2368 TO YOU IN GOOD FAITH BY THIS COUNTY COMMISSION IN HOPES THAT YOU WILL ADOPT 2369 IT.

2370 AND IT WILL MOVE US FORWARD TOGETHER TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF BROWARD COUNTY.

2371 AND I HOPE TODAY WE WILL VOTE BY DISTRICT.

2372 OK.

2373 THANK YOU.

2374 SO NOW THAT THE COUNTY PRESENTATION HAS PROCEEDED AS I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER 2375 BOARD MEMBER RYAN IS BEING RECOGNIZED AS AN OFFER OF AN AMENDMENT.

2376 FIRST I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE COMMISSIONER FURR FOR THAT VERY SUCCINCT AND 2377 BRIEF ANALYSIS.

2378 THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE PROPOSED AND I PROVIDED A COPY OF THE TEXT TO THE 2379 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WHEN WE HAD THE DEBATE BACK IN APRIL AND THIS PROPOSAL WAS 2380 DEFEATED.

2381 I HEARD FROM A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOOD FROM THE MEMBER FROM MIRAMAR AND FROM 2382 OTHERS THAT THIS WAS NOT FAIR BECAUSE WE ARE ALLOWING ALTERNATES BEFORE 2383 COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ALTERNATES FOR THE MUNICIPAL 2384 MEMBERS.

2385 WE'RE NOT ALLOWING ALTERNATES FOR THE S OF 48 MEMBER SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.

2386 SO I PROPOSE IN THIS AMENDMENT THAT ALL OF THE VOTING MEMBERS WOULD HAVE AN 2387 ALTERNATE NOW LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD IN THE LAST ITEM.

2388 I REALIZE THAT IN A WAY I'M KIND OF STICKING MY HAND IN THE HORNET'S NEST BECAUSE 2389 THE NON-VOTING MEMBERS ARE NOW GOING TO GET MORE FLIPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY

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2390 HAVE TO HAVE NOT ONLY ONE OF THE MEMBERS ABSENT BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE 2391 ALTERNATE ABSENT.

2392 SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A DIFFICULT PROPOSAL.

2393 BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT THE CONCERNS WERE OF THE MEMBERS THAT 2394 WERE RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD IN APRIL WITH RESPECT TO DECIDE 2395 THEM.

2396 SO WITH THAT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT ANYWAY SO I'M GLAD THAT AT 2397 LEAST IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED SO YOU COULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION AND WHERE IT GOES 2398 NOBODY KNOWS.

2399 BOARD MEMBER RYAN DID YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT.

2400 [INAUDIBLE] HOW ABOUT IF THE ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY ANGELA WALSH READS IT IN AND 2401 YOU COULD EXPLAIN IT MUCH BETTER THAN ME.

2402 OK THANK YOU COMMISSIONER RYAN.

2403 SO THE ALTERNATIVE OPTION COMMISSIONER RYAN REALLY DID JUST EXPLAIN 2404 PRETTY PRETTY ACCURATELY THE DISCUSSION DURING THE APRIL MEETING WAS CONCERN 2405 FROM THE 19 VOTING MEMBER CITIES THAT AND THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER THAT THEY DON'T 2406 HAVE ALTERNATES FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE ENTITIES AND THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION 2407 WAS GOING TO HAVE ALTERNATES FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION THAN THEY WANTED 2408 ALTERNATES FROM THEIR RESPECTIVE CITIES AND AND FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

2409 SO COMMISSIONER RYAN PROPOSED HAVING ALTERNATE MEMBERS REFLECT JUST THAT 2410 THE 19 VOTING MEMBER MUNICIPALITIES WOULD SELECT THEIR VOTING MEMBERS AND 2411 THEIR ALTERNATES AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD SELECT ITS VOTING MEMBERS 2412 AND ITS ALTERNATES.

2413 THE SCHOOL BOARD WOULD SELECT ITS VOTING MEMBER AN ITS ALTERNATE AND IN THE 2414 ABSENCE OF THE VOTING MEMBER AND THE ALTERNATE FROM THE VOTING ENTITIES 2415 THE NON-VOTING MUNICIPALITIES WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO THE ABILITY 2416 TO HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNTED GIVEN THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS PRESENT AT THE TIME THAT 2417 THE VOTE IS TAKEN.

2418 SO TO CLARIFY THE 19 VOTING MEMBERS WOULD SELECT WITHI THEIR OWN DISTRICT WHO 2419 WOULD BE THEIR ALTERNATE TO VOTE WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGE PRESENT IN THE CITY WITHIN 2420 THEIR CITY.

2421 SO THE CONCERN WAS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATE FROM THE SCHOOL 2422 BOARD AND THAT THE 19 VOTING MUNICIPALITIES DID NOT HAVE ALTERNATES FROM THEIR 2423 RESPECTIVE MUNICIPALITIES.

2424 AND WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS HAD OFFERED WAS TO HAVE ALTERNATES FROM 2425 THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR THE SITTING THE VOTING COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS.

2426 SO THE THE WHAT COMMISSIONER RYAN IS TRYING TO DO IS ACCOMMODATE THOSE 2427 VOTING MEMBERS THAT WANT TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE ALTERNATE SELECTED FROM 2428 THEIR VOTING BODIES.

2429 SO TO CLARIFY WHY WOULD ONLY THE 19 VOTING MEMBERS HAVE ALTERNATES.

2430 AND WHY WOULDN'T THE NON-VOTING SMALLER CITIES NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATE THEIR 2431 VOTING REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE WHO IS PRESENT AT THE MEETING IN THE EVENT THAT 2432 THE VOTING MEMBER AND THE ALTERNATE FROM THE VOTING ENTITIES WORTH WERE NOT 2433 PRESENT THEN THE NON-VOTING ENTITY OR THE SMALLER MUNICIPALITY REPRESENTATIVE 2434 WOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE.

2435 I SEE WHICH IS WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS NOW.

2436 THEY GET TO VOTE IF THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF VOTING MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE OK.

2437 THE ONE THING THAT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ON THIS IS THAT 2438 IF YOU HAVE THAT MONEY YOU JUST DOUBLED WE WOULD HAVE DOUBLE THIS DAIS BECAUSE 2439 EVEN IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE YOU STILL HAVE RIGHT TO DEBATE.

2440 SO THAT MEANS THAT IF I DESIGNATE IN MY CASE JUDY PAUL IS MY ALTERNATE SHE 2441 WOULD BE WELCOME TO SIT HERE AND DEBATE WITH US EVEN THOUGH SHE WOULDN'T HAVE A 2442 VOTE.

2443 I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT SHE'D BE ABLE TO DEBATE BECAUSE IF YOU'RE HERE THEN 2444 SHE COULD SIT IN THE AUDIENCE BUT SHE COULDN'T PARTICIPATE UNLESS YOU LEFT 2445 THE DAIS.

2446 SEE THAT IS EXACTLY THE WAY WE HAD IT BEFORE WE MOVED OUT OF THE COUNTY WE USED TO 2447 HAVE THE VOTING MEMBERS SIT ON THE DAIS AND YOUR COUNTY COMMISSION CHAMBERS AND THE 2448 NON-VOTING MEMBERS HAD TO SIT IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE AS A COLLECTIVE VOTED THAT 2449 IF YOU ARE HERE EVEN IF YOU'RE AN ALTERNATE YOU GET A VOICE AND YOU GET A SEAT 2450 AT THE TABLE WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE DOUBLE DAIS.

2451 WELL WE'RE DOING THAT WITH RESPECT TO CITIES THAT ARE SMALLER IN POPULATION AND 2452 THEREFORE THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE ON THIS DAY.

2453 BUT IF DAVIE ALREADY HAS SOMEBODY ON THE DAIS YOU WOULDN'T DOUBLE UP AND HAVE 2454 TWO PEOPLE ON THE DAIS THESE NON-VOTING MEMBERS ARE THE ONLY REPRESENTATIVE OF 2455 THEIR CITY THAT'S HERE.

2456 OK SO THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE IS THAT THIS THIS ALTERNATIVE HAS BEEN

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2457 OFFERED FOR BOARD CONSIDERATION BY BOARD MEMBER RYAN.

2458 AND SO WHEN WE HAVE OUR DISCUSSION I SEE THERE'S A QUEUE OF 10 PLEASE MAKE 2459 SURE THAT YOUR DISCUSSION IS GERMANE TO HIS ALTERNATIVE AMENDMENT.

2460 SO AND I'LL START THE DEBATE NOW RECOGNIZING FIRST BOARD MEMBER PULCINI.

2461 HI.

2462 I HAD REQUESTED FROM GREG A HISTORY OF OUR VOTING OUR PAST VOTES FROM 2016 TO 2019 2463 TO SEE WHETHER IT ACTUALLY MATTERED WHETHER WE INCLUDED AN EXTRA COUNTY 2464 COMMISSIONER OUT OF THE 9 9 VOTES THAT WE HAD TWO VOTE REMOVED JUST SO WE HAD 2465 NINETY SEVEN TOTAL VOTES NINETY SEVEN PASSED THREE VOTES FAILED OUT OF THE 2466 NINETY SEVEN OUT OF THE NINETY FOUR VOTES THAT PASSED SIXTY FIVE UNANIMOUS 2467 THIRTY TWO WERE CONTENDED NONE OF THE VOTES THAT WERE CONTENDED WERE WOULD HAVE 2468 MADE A DIFFERENCE IF WE HAD AN EXTRA COUNTY COMMISSIONER ON THERE.

2469 SO RATIONALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE HAVE AN EXTRA KIND OF 2470 COMMISSIONER.

2471 THIS IS JUST AN EMOTIONAL DECISION WHETHER OUR VOTE COUNTS.

2472 I'M SAYING THIS FROM A POSITION WHERE MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT RATIONALLY 2473 WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHETHER MY VOTE COUNT OR NOT ALL THE DECISIONS THAT 2474 WE MADE SO FAR WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME WHETHER MY VOTE COUNTED OR NOT.

2475 SO IT MATTERS WHETHER WHAT WE FEEL THAT WE WANT TO DO DO DO WE DO WE WANT TO.

2476 I MEAN RATIONALLY IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WON'T AFFECT ANY ANY OUTCOME A MATTER OF 2477 MOTION [INAUDIBLE] IN THE PAST IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

2478 NOW I KNOW IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IN THE FUTURE SOMETHING WON'T COME UP THAT 2479 IT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

2480 BUT IN THE PAST IN THE LAST THREE YEARS IT HAS NOT MADE A DIFFERENCE.

2481 SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO BRING UP.

2482 OKAY.

2483 THANK YOU.

2484 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOODE.

2485 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

2486 THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER FURR FOR THE EXTENSIVE PRESENTATION AND MY MPO 2487 COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR COMMENTS THUS FAR.

2488 JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS.

2489 YOU KNOW I DO SERVE ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND I WILL SAY THAT I VOICE 2490 COMMENTARY AT THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE I DON'T FEEL IT'S MY ROLE TO STOP THE DEBATE 2491 OF ANY ISSUE ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IF WE VOTE ANY PARTICULAR 2492 ITEM DOWN IT WILL NOT COME TO THE GREATER FORUM.

2493 SO I WILL.

2494 YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE 2495 MEMBERS AND HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE PRESIDENT AND IT WAS AN ITEM WAS APPROVED 2496 AND I THINK COMMISSIONER FURR ALSO REFERRED TO THE EXECUTIVE BOARD'S APPROVAL 2497 OF A PARTICULAR ITEM.

2498 I DON'T THINK THAT'S MY ROLE.

2499 I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EACH ONE OF THE MEMBERS HERE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO 2500 VOICE WHATEVER CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE AS FAR AS THE LAST TIME THIS ITEM WAS 2501 BROUGHT FORWARD.

2502 IT WAS DEFINITELY NOT QUICKLY PASSED THROUGH THERE.

2503 YOU KNOW FOR WHATEVER MEMBERSHIP THAT WAS HERE THERE WAS EXTENSIVE 2504 EXTENSIVE DEBATE ON THE ISSUE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS IT WAS A GREAT DIALOGUE.

2505 AND I LEARNED FROM EACH OF THE MEMBERS AND I WILL TELL YOU I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT 2506 DISTRICT DO I REPRESENT ALL OF THEM.

2507 YOU ARE A NON MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE YOU YOU REPRESENT COUNTYWIDE.

2508 OK.

2509 BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS COMMENTS THAT WE SHOULD ALL VOTE BY DISTRICTS AND I 2510 DON'T HAVE ONE.

2511 BUT THE LAST TIME THAT THIS ISSUE CAME FORWARD I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I 2512 DIDN'T ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL BOARD TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE MEMBER AND 2513 THERE WAS I WAS PART OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS MENTIONED QUITE A BIT ON THE DIALOGUE 2514 BEFORE I SPOKE.

2515 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T HERE I WAS 2516 ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE SMALLER CITIES AND THOSE THAT HAVE LESS POPULATION.

2517 SO I NEEDED TO MAKE THAT POINT.

2518 SO WITH REGARD TO WHAT'S BEFORE US YES I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT THE BYLAWS 2519 AND THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

2520 YES OK.

2521 AND THE COUNCIL SO I DID GO BACK AND AND LOOK AT OUR EXECUTIVE BYLAWS AND HOW 2522 THEY'RE WRITTEN AND IN PARTICULAR I GUESS WHEN IT SPEAKS TO ALTERNATE MEMBERS 2523 IT IT ONLY MENTIONS MUNICIPAL ALTERNATES.

2524 IT DOESN'T SAY UNDER YOUR CORRECT YOU'RE CORRECT.

2525 CAN I JUST FINISH MY THING.

2526 OKAY.

2527 SO UNDER YOUR SECTION OF THE BYLAWS 2.0 5.1 IT ONLY SPEAKS TO ALTERNATES AS IT 2528 RELATES TO MUNICIPAL BUT THAT'S NOT EXACTLY ACCURAT BECAUSE IF I'M NOT HERE AND

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2529 THE THE THE DAIS IS WHAT THE DAIS IS.

2530 MY COLLEAGUE MAYOR HUNSCHOFSKY CAN VOTE AS AN ALTERNATE.

2531 CORRECT SO YOU'RE CONFUSING THE ISSUES.

2532 THE ALTERNATE MEMBERS ARE THE MUNICIPALITY THE MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE 2533 MEMBERS.

2534 COULD I HAVE THAT.

2535 NO BUT I'M GOING TO I'M NOT CONFUSING THE ISSUE.

2536 BELIEVE ME I READ THE BYLAWS.

2537 SO MY ISSUE IS THE BYLAWS SPEAK ONLY TO MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE.

2538 THAT'S CORRECT.

2539 AND SO THOSE OF US THAT ARE NON MUNICIPAL WHEN I'M NOT HERE YOU ALTERNATE AN 2540 ALTERNATE WILL VOTE ON MY BEHALF.

2541 AND IT WILL BE A MUNICIPAL.

2542 YEAH.

2543 IT'LL BE A MUNICIPALITY THAT MAYBE WOULDN'T HAVE TH OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE BECAUSE 2544 ALL THE MEMBERS ARE HERE.

2545 THAT IS CORRECT.

2546 THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.

2547 SO YOU'RE SAYING I WAS.

2548 I MISHEARD YOU.

2549 OK SO I THINK THE BYLAWS NEED TO BE CLEAR ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE MOUNTAIN ON 2550 MUNICIPAL MEMBERS ON WHO GETS TO VOTE.

2551 AND SO IF I'M NOT PRESENT WHO GETS TO VOTE FOR ME.

2552 IS IT IN POPULATION.

2553 IT'S BY POPULATION.

2554 AND THAT'S WHY I HAD THE CHART PUT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU.

2555 THIS IS THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT CLEARLY IDENTIFIES MUNICIPAL 2556 REPRESENTATIVES WITH THE MEMBER RIGHT AND THEN IT IDENTIFIES THE ALTERNATES 2557 AND IT'S IN THE ORDER OF EVERYTHING IS AN ORDER OF POPULATION AS TO THAT.

2558 ORDER OF POPULATION ONLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE NON MUNICIPAL.

2559 THAT IS THE MUNICIPAL MEMBERS ARE GOVERNED BY DISTRICTS.

2560 SO IF YOU LET ME I'M GOING TO JUST SAY THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THE BYLAWS IT 2561 SPEAKS TO AND I HAD THEM ON MY SCREEN EARLIER BUT IT SPEAKS TO IF A MUNICIPAL 2562 MEMBER AND DISTRICT IN A DISTRICT IS NOT HERE THEN THE DISTRICT ALTERNATE 2563 SHOULD BE THE VOTING MEMBER.

2564 THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

2565 YES.

2566 IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

2567 IT DOES BUT THEN IT GOES BY POPULATION.

2568 NO IT DOES NOT.

2569 IT DOES NOT.

2570 AND I WILL READ TO YOU ON THE SECTION THAT AND THIS IS I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY SO 2571 I'M GOING TO READ WHAT IT SAYS AND THEN IT WAS TWO POINT ZERO FIVE.

2572 SO IT'S UNDER THE BYLAWS AND THAT'S ON THE MPO'S GENERAL ONLINE.

2573 YOU CAN EVERYONE CAN PICK IT UP.

2574 IT SAYS AT ANY GIVEN MEETING IF A MUNICIPAL DISTRICT MEMBER IS ABSENT THE 2575 DISTRICT'S ALTERNATE IN ORDER OF POPULATION MAY VOTE IN PLACE OF THE ABSENT 2576 MEMBER BUT IT'S THE DISTRICT'S ALTERNATE.

2577 SO YES BY POPULATION YES SIR.

2578 BUT IT'S THE DISTRICTS BUT IT'S WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

2579 SO IN OTHER WORDS IF CORAL SPRINGS TAMARA IN NORTH LAUDERDALE IF ONE OF THOSE 2580 MEMBERS IS NOT HERE WEST PARK DOESN'T GET TO VOTE FOR THEM.

2581 PARKLAND DOES.

2582 RIGHT.

2583 IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

2584 YES THAT'S CORRECT.

2585 OK.

2586 BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

2587 THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THE BYLAWS THE BYLAWS DO NOT SPEAK TO ALTERNATE MEMBERS 2588 OF NON MUNICIPAL.

2589 SO IT BUT THERE ARE ALTERNATES TO US IF I'M NOT HERE A MUNICIPALITY GETS TO 2590 VOTE IN MY ABSENCE AS CURRENTLY AS CURRENTLY PRESENTED.

2591 THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

2592 OK.

2593 SO ALL I'M SAYING IS IT'S NOT A DRESS BUT NON MUNICIPAL MEMBERS DO HAVE 2594 ALTERNATES.

2595 IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS NOT HERE A MUNICIPAL ALTERNATE GETS TO 2596 PARTICIPATE IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW YOU'RE SPEAKING IN THE GLOBAL SENSE.

2597 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

2598 OK.

2599 WELL I'M SPEAKING AS THE BYLAWS READ.

2600 SO THEY'RE ALL ALTERNATE MEMBERS AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE AND I HOPE THAT 2601 WE'RE FOLLOWING AS FAR AS WITHIN THE DISTRICT'S YES THERE IS.

2602 WHEN I'M NOT HERE A MUNICIPAL MEMBER GETS TO VOTE IN MY ABSENCE.

2603 WHEN YOU'RE NOT HERE I MEAN THE ONE THAT'S DONE BY POPULATION THAT'S HOW THE 2604 BYLAWS READ NOW.

2605 IT ALLOWS FOR IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS NOT PRESENT AND ALLOWS FOR AN 2606 ALTERNATE MEMBER TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

2607 AND THAT ALTERNATE MEMBER.

2608 IT GOES BY POPULATION.

2609 IT JUST DEPENDS ON.

2610 OK.

2611 SO THAT'S WHAT I'M LISTENING TO.

2612 SO IF THE ISSUE IS REPRESENTATION IT OKAY.

2613 LET'S SAY THE ISSUES OF OUR REPRESENTATION AND I LOOKE AT THE MAP AND I I WAS 2614 FOLLOWING VERY LOGICALLY YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR COMMENTARY.

2615 WE WE HAVE FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THIS BOARD NOW FOUR ARE APPOINTED BY 2616 THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND ONE IS APPOINTED BY THE SFRTA OR REPRESENTS THE 2617 FSRTA.

2618 THAT THAT EVEN HELPS MY ARGUMENT.

2619 SO LITERALLY THE COUNTY COMMISSION CAN HAVE FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED TO THIS

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2620 GROUP THAT REPRESENTS THE ENTIRE FIVE DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

2621 BUT THEY DO NOT.

2622 THERE IS ONE ONE AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.

2623 AND I BELIEVE IT'S DISTRICT 2 SO THERE IS GREAT OVERLA BETWEEN COUNTY COMMISSIONER 2624 OR DISTRICT.

2625 SO SO CLEARLY IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE AS AN MPO DON'T APPOINT 2626 THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THE COUNTY COMMISSION DOES AND THEY SHOULD.

2627 SO I THINK THAT WHEN THEY'RE MAKING THEIR APPOINTMENTS THEY NEED TO 2628 CONSIDER THAT TO MAKE SURE IF THE CONCERN FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 2629 PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THE ENTIRE COUNTY IS SOMEHOW REPRESENTED THEN I THEN I 2630 BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD APPOINT FIVE MEMBERS ONE FROM EACH RESPECTIVE 2631 DISTRICT WITH REGARD TO I'M NOT DONE AND I'M ALMOST DONE.

2632 AND AND SO I'M I WILL SAY THIS.

2633 I'M AMENABLE TO I THINK THE AGREEMENT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED BY EVERYBODY.

2634 AND I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES WHO 2635 SIT HERE AND PARTICIPATE AND HAVE GREAT VALUE TO NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE.

2636 I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR ME THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE.

2637 AND WITH REGARD TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT 2638 WHATSOEVER BECAUSE THE SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES WILL NEVER GET TO VOTE WITH 2639 REGARD TO HAVING FOUR ALTERNATE I THINK THAT STILL PRESENTS A PROBLEM.

2640 I THINK HAVING FOUR ALTERNATES FOR EVERY PROSPECTIVE DISTRICT YOU'RE 2641 STILL GOING TO HAVE ONE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE A ALTERNATE.

2642 SO I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT AS WELL.

2643 WHAT I AM WILLING TO PROPOSE WHEN APPROPRIATE IS THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAVE 2644 ONE ALTERNATE BUT THAT'S ALL I'M ABLE TO SUPPORT.

2645 I THINK IT MAKES SOME SENSE IF THEY FEEL THAT HAVING A MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE 2646 REPRESENT THEIR VIEWS ON A MUNICIPAL LEVEL AND NOT AT COUNTY COMMISSIONER LEVEL.

2647 I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT PROCESS.

2648 I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH IT BUT I THINK IN AN EFFORT TO MOVE THIS AGENDA 2649 FORWARD NOT GET IT TABLED AGAIN AND BRING US ALL TOGETHER IN A TIME WHERE WE 2650 REALLY NEED TO BE TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS SURTAX AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE'RE 2651 GONNA BE VOTING FOR IS GOING TO BE IMPACTING EVERY ONE OF YOU MORE THAT IS GONNA 2652 BE IMPACTING ME SO I THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION THAT THE COUNTY COMMISSION CONSIDER 2653 APPOINTING MEMBERS WITHIN THEIR OWN RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS AND THAT WE HAVE 2654 ONE ALTERNATE ON THEIR BEHALF SHOULD ONE OF THEM NOT COME BUT TO HAVE ANY 2655 MORE WOULD REALLY REALLY SEVERELY IMPACT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SMALLER 2656 MUNICIPALITIES TO PARTICIPATE.

2657 I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM ON THIS LIST AND MANY OF THEM WERE HERE 2658 TODAY.

2659 SOME NEVER COME BUT THAT SHOULDN'T MINIMIZE THE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE THAT 2660 ARE ALWAYS HERE RAISING ISSUES AND CONCERNS AND THAT'S THE EXTENT OF MY 2661 COMMENTS.

2662 THANK YOU.

2663 DEBBIE FISCHER AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROPOSAL.

2664 WHAT I ENVISION IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD IS THAT W WILL ADDRESS THE AMENDMENT 2665 OFFERED BY BOARD MEMBER RYAN FIRST AND IF IT OBVIOUSLY IF IT PASSES THEN 2666 THERE'S NO NEED FOR ANY OTHER FURTHER DEBATE.

2667 BUT IF IT DOES NOT WE WOULD TAKE THE ORIGINAL QUESTION AND IF THAT DIDN'T PASS AND 2668 WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOURS.

2669 OK GREAT.

2670 THANKS WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

2671 I RECOGNIZE CITIES REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON.

2672 YES.

2673 THANK YOU.

2674 I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THREE OF THE SMALLER CITIES LAUDERDALE BY THE 2675 SEA HILLSBOROUGH BEACH IN LIGHTHOUSE POINT WE ARE NOT REPRESENTED BY A COUNTY 2676 COMMISSIONER ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE FROM OUR DISTRICT THERE USED TO 2677 BE CHIP [INAUDIBLE] FOR A SHORT TIME BUT HE'S GONE ALSO I HAVE A PROBLEM AND 2678 HAVE HAD ALL ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WHEN WE WENT FROM NINETEEN TO TWENTY FIVE 2679 WHICH REALLY HELPED THE SMALL CITIES THAT THERE WER MANY MORE OF US THAT COULD 2680 VOTE ONCE IN A WHILE I MEAN I SPENT MY FIRST PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS ON THE ON THIS 2681 BOARD SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE AT THE GOVERNMENT BUILDING BECAUSE I COULD 2682 BASICALLY NEVER VOTE.

2683 BUT I CAME NONETHELESS.

2684 AND WHEN WE WENT FROM TWENTY FIVE FROM NINETEEN TO TWENTY FIVE IT WAS A LOT 2685 MORE OFTEN THAT I COULD ACTUALLY VOTE AND I COULD GIVE MY INPUT EVEN IF I 2686 COULDN'T VOTE WHICH WAS IMPORTANT.

2687 BUT THE THE PROPOSAL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW OF HAVING AN ALTERNATE FOR EACH OF 2688 THE THE MEMBERS ON THE REPRESENTATIVES WOULD AS SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOODE 2689 SAID WOULD MAKE IT LITERALLY THAT WE WOULD NEVER GET TO VOTE.

2690 THERE'D BE 13 MUNICIPALITIES THAT BASICALLY WOULD COME HERE 2691 AND OCCUPY A SEAT AND NOT HAVE A VOTE.

2692 AND TO ME THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND 2693 NOT REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT AS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IN THE USA

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2694 AND BROWARD COUNTY.

2695 OK.

2696 THANK YOU.

2697 BOARD MEMBER HUNSCHOFSKY.

2698 THANK YOU FIRST OF ALL.

2699 I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY AS A COMMENT TO DIRECTLY TO COMMISSIONER FURR THAT HIS.

2700 THAT HIS INVOLVEMENT ON THIS BOARD IN MY OPINION HAS BEEN TRANSFORMATIONAL 2701 FOR THIS BOARD AND HE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE REASONS I BELIEVE THAT THE 2702 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY HAVE BEEN MUCH IMPOOVED BECAUSE 2703 BEFORE YOU WERE HERE THERE WASN'T A GREAT ATTENDANCE AND THERE WASN'T A GREAT 2704 CONNECTION TO WHAT WAS BEING DONE HERE.

2705 SO I WANT TO PREFACE EVERYTHING I'M SAYING WITH THAT YOU HAVE BEEN AN 2706 EXTREMELY VALUABLE MEMBER AND I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH TRUST YOU 2707 HAVE BUILT AMONG THIS GROUP AND BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY.

2708 AND I SHOULD BE VERY MUCH APPLAUDED FOR THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ALWAYS 2709 WANT TO BE.

2710 I JUST WANT TO PREFACE WITH THAT.

2711 AND I WANT TO ADD I DO KNOW WHAT MY DISTRICT'S ARE MY DISTRICT ONE FOR THE MPO 2712 AND WHEN I'M IN THE COUNTY MY CITY IS IN DISTRICT 3.

2713 I WANT TO ALSO MY EQUITY COMMENTS EARLIER WERE ONLY BECAUSE EQUITY KEPT GETTING 2714 BROUGHT UP IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS.

2715 I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR MANY YEARS RARELY ABLE TO VOTE.

2716 I WAS SO THRILLED WHEN THE MEMBERSHIP WENT TO 25 COMMISSIONER JOHNSON 2717 MENTIONED BECAUSE THEN I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AND I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED 2718 THAT AT THE MEETING AFTER THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WE SPENT 45 MINUTES WITH ONE OF THE 2719 COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TOTALLY PUSHING AGAINST THOSE ADDITIONAL VOTES SO 2720 THAT THE SMALL CITIES WOULDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.

2721 I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT COMMISSIONER GOODE SCHOOL 2722 BOARD MEMBER GOODE THE OTHER GOODE MEMBER ON BECAUSE I THINK IF THE COUNTY HAS ONE 2723 ALTERNATE THEN THAT CAN REPRESENT THE COUNTY.

2724 BUT I ALSO WANT TO BRING UP THE NONALIGNED ARGUMENT.

2725 SO IF WE'RE HERE TO LOOK AT DISTRICTS AND I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT MY CITY 2726 BOUNDARIES AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE A DISTRICT THEN AND WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE 2727 LOOKING AT IT FROM A BIGGER VIEW THEN WHY WOULD SOMEBOD ON THE COUNTY NEED TO HAVE 2728 A COUNTY ALTERNATE.

2729 BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY FROM ONE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES IN YOUR CITY 2730 ALSO GIVING THE VIEW FROM YOUR DISTRICT.

2731 SO IF I'M ASKED TO LOOK TO MY COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE FOR MY VOICE I WOULD HOPE 2732 THAT IF MY COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE WEREN'T HERE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD BE 2733 COMFORTABLE LOOKING TO ME FOR MY VOICE IN THAT DISTRICT REPRESENTATION 2734 SHOULD NOT BE IN ONE DIRECTION AND THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT TO 2735 THAT HAVING SAID THAT I'M AMENABLE PATTY FANTASTIC JOB ON YOUR HOMEWORK.

2736 I WAS FOLLOWING YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH ON ALL YOUR COMMENTS BUT THOSE WOULD BE 2737 MY COMMENTS FOR IT.

2738 I DON'T HAVE AN I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT.

2739 I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT CONCURRING WITH THE AMOUNT THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT 2740 THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

2741 OK.

2742 THANK YOU.

2743 FORMER CHAIR BLATTNER.

2744 THANK YOU.

2745 FIRST OF ALL THIS IS REMARKABLE.

2746 THANK YOU FOR REQUESTING THIS.

2747 I THINK THIS IS REALLY REMARKABLE.

2748 IF YOU LOOK AT IT HOW MANY TIMES THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS VOTED AGAINST 2749 THINGS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF.

2750 ONE IS THAT WHEN I WAS CHAIR EARLY ON I ADVOCATED THAT THERE BE A POSITION ON THE 2751 EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE FOR THE SMALL CITIES BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T GET TO 2752 VOTE IN HAVING SOMEONE ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE WOULD GIVE THAT PERSON AN 2753 OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO OTHER SMALL CITIES.

2754 AND I KNOW THAT POWER WILL BE A SUNSHINE THING BUT AT LEAST I GET TO SPREAD 2755 INFORMATION AND SO FORTH.

2756 AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE.

2757 SANDY JOHNSON HAS DONE A TERRIFIC JOB.

2758 I CAN'T SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT AND I'LL TELL YO SOMETHING IF WE VOTE TO 2759 ACCEPT THE THE AGREEMENT IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENC BECAUSE IT ALL DEPENDS ON 2760 WHO SHOWS UP.

2761 BUT I DO THINK THAT A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOODE YOU ARE CORRECT AND WE DID DISCUSS 2762 THIS BEFORE ONE ALTERED IT.

2763 NOW WE HAVE A MEMBER WITH WEARS TWO HATS ONE HE'S TH SFRT REP BUT HE'S ALSO THE 2764 COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

2765 I WOULD SAY THIS IF HE WAS HERE AND THAT'S THE POINT HE COMES LATE HE LEAVES EARLY 2766 AND IN ALL THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE HE HAS NEVER BROUGHT UP AND SFRTA ISSUE 2767 HE BRINGS UP COMMISSION ISSUES.

2768 SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE VOTES GUYS ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH

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2769 GREAT SATISFACTION AND PRIDE IS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM PAROCHIALISM WHEN WE 2770 WERE PART OF THE COUNTY.

2771 PEOPLE WOULD VOTE FOR SOMETHING ONLY IF THE ROAD WAS GONNA BE PAVED IN THEIR 2772 CITY AND CARE ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ANYWHERE ELSE.

2773 THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN TODAY.

2774 I DON'T REMEMBER EVER HEARING ANYBODY SAYING WELL THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO MY 2775 COMMUNITY SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A COFFEE BREAK OR LEAVE THE ROOM OR WHATEVER AND 2776 WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IN A WAY DESTROYS THE PAROCHIALISM BY THE SPIRIT 2777 OF IT BY THE SPIRIT OF IT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY AND I STILL DO THINK IT WAS VERY 2778 DISRESPECTFUL OF THE COUNTY TO FAIL TO SUPPORT AND VOTE FOR AMENDMENT THREE BECAUSE 2779 THEY THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING ILLEGAL THERE AND IT'S STILL ON AND IT'S 2780 STILL NOT BEEN I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT IS I I DON'T EVEN LIKE HEARING IT 2781 BROUGHT UP AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

2782 AMENDMENT 3 IS IN THE DUSTBIN OF HISTORY.

2783 SO I'M GOING.

2784 I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOODS 2785 AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THAT IF YOU HAVE ONE ALTERNATE THE CHANCES 2786 ARE THAT ALTERNATE MIGHT KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR 2787 THE NEXT MEETING.

2788 AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

2789 BECAUSE ALTERNATES THOSE THAT SHOW UP HERE AND DON'T GET TO VOTE.

2790 I AM ASSUMING THEY HAVE READ THE AGENDA THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY 2791 KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

2792 SO A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION 2793 AND I THINK I THINK THAT IS ONE MORE THING HERE.

2794 OH WE ALL REALIZE THAT IF ANYTHING PASSES HERE TODAY IT GOES BACK TO EVERY CITY 2795 FOR APPROVAL AND EVERY ONE OF US AND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER TO HER SCHOOL TO THE 2796 SCHOOL BOARD IS GOING TO HAVE TO PRESENT WHAT HAPPENS HERE AND MAKE A 2797 RECOMMENDATION.

2798 SO NO MATTER HOW I VOTE TODAY I HAVE TO RECOMMEND TO MY COLLEAGUES HOW I REALLY 2799 FEEL AS WELL AS HOW THE BOARD FELT.

2800 INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT MAY THOSE TWO THINGS MAY BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

2801 THANK YOU.

2802 ALL RIGHT.

2803 THANK YOU.

2804 BOARD MEMBER SCHOFIELD CAN'T AGREE WITH THE AMENDMENT.

2805 I'M HOPING THAT WE ALL HOLD OUT FOR ANOTHER MEMBER FROM SCHOOL SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER 2806 GOODE.

2807 I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR ACCURACY FROM EITHER THE DIRECTOR OR ATTORNEY.

2808 FROM DIRECTOR AND ATTORNEY FOR ACCURACY THE STATUTE THREE THIRTY NINE DASH ONE 2809 SEVEN FIVE IT WAS SHOWN EARLIER.

2810 IS THAT OUR STATUTE [INAUDIBLE] IT'S THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MPO 2811 STATUTE THAT WAS REFERENCED IT IS THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE AS TO HOW THEY 2812 INTERPRET THAT STATUTE BUT IT'S NOT HOW THE MPO HAS INTERPRETED THAT STATUTE 2813 FROM THE BEGINNING.

2814 WELL IT'S PRETTY CLEAR BUT AND THEN ARE WE OPERATING UNDER FEDERAL RULES STATE 2815 RULES OR COUNTY RULES OR LOCAL MPO IS IT'S THE STATE IT'S THE STATE STATUTE THAT 2816 WE LOOK TO MOSTLY BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FEDERAL RULES AND 2817 REGULATIONS.

2818 WHAT I LEARNED IN THAT CLASS WAS WE WAS FORMED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 2819 YES OR TO BE SEPARATED BY ALL OTHER LOCAL RULE AS TH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR 2820 MENTIONED BEFORE THOUGH.

2821 HOWEVER IS THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WHEN OTHER STATES ARE THE ONLY ONES 2822 THAT LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VOTING MEMBERS ON BY UP BY THE FLORIDA STATUTE.

2823 OK.

2824 SO THE OTHER THING IS BECAUSE I'VE SAID MANY TIMES AND I WALK IN THE DOOR 2825 I TAKE ON MY CITY HAD PUT A LOT OF MY REGIONAL HAT.

2826 SO NOW I'M BEING SHOWN SOMETHING OTHERWISE THAT I'M SUPPOSED TO PUT ON MY 2827 DISTRICT.

2828 I DON'T KNOW IS WHAT IS WHAT IS HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO VOTE THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN 2829 INVOLVED IN DEERFIELD STUFF I'M GO INTO THEIR HOMEOWNER MEETINGS ON [INAUDIBLE]AND 2830 IT'S NOT EVEN IN MY DISTRICTS I'M LIKE WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE HOME AT 2831 NIGHT YOU KNOW.

2832 THE MPO IS A COUNTY WIDE ENTITY THAT AFFECTS THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE.

2833 AND WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO VOTE REGIONALLY OR DISTRICT? 2834 I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU VOTE WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO VOTE.

2835 BUT IT IS COUNTY WIDE.

2836 SO I'M HOLDING OUT THAT WE DON'T APPROVE THE AMENDMENT AND THAT SOMETHING ELSE 2837 COMES UP.

2838 THANK YOU.

2839 THANK YOU.

2840 YES.

2841 BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS.

2842 WELL WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA NEED TO CHANGE YOUR 2843 RULES AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY CAN'T HAVE A VOTE.

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2844 THAT THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO.

2845 WE'RE COUNTYWIDE.

2846 BY THAT WE'RE REGIONAL BODY WE'RE NOT A CITY OR AREA OR DISTRICT BECAUSE 2847 WHAT WE DO AFFECT ALL OF US IN BROWARD BOULEVARD CUTS THROUGH MANY CITIES SO 2848 THERE'S 441 AND WE ALL RIDE ON THESE ROADS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

2849 THE ISSUE AT HAND AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE PROPER REPRESENTATION IS I 2850 THINK MAYBE AT THE CRUX OF THE MATTER WHY THE COUNTY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE 2851 HAVE THE KIND OF REPRESENTATION THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

2852 I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS THAT OR ACTION AT THE COUNTY IS FOR ME ANYHOW.

2853 LET ME SINGLE MYSELF OUT.

2854 IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY I'M ELECTED FROM A DISTRICT YES BUT THE 2855 DECISION I MADE MUST BE TO BENEFIT ALL THE PEOPLE OF BROWARD 2856 COUNTY THERE'S SELDOMLY AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP FOR US THAT WE WE ARE LOOKING AT 2857 JUST THE DISTRICT THAT WE'RE IN.

2858 AND THEN OCCASIONALLY THAT OCCURS WHEN WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT COME 2859 FOR PROBABLY FUNDING FROM OUR PROGRAM FOR REDEVELOPMENT THAT WE NOW 2860 PUT IN PLACE INSTEAD OF THE SERIES.

2861 BUT EVEN THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE GOOD.

2862 HOW DOES IT BENEFIT MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN BROWARD COUNTY SO THE PERSPECTIVE 2863 THAT I THINK WE BRING TO THAT ALTERNATIVE OF HAVING SOMEONE HERE IS JUST THAT 2864 IT'S NOT ABOUT CUTTING THE SMALL CITIES OUT FROM BEING REPRESENTED.

2865 IT IS NOT AT ALL.

2866 IN FACT ALL OF US HAVE SOME SMALL CITY WITHIN OUR DISTRICT.

2867 I'M SURE SO IF SOMEHOW IF SOMEONE DOESN'T GET TO VOTE I'M GOING TO LOOK TO SEE 2868 WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF ALL BROWARD COUNTY AND IF IT AFFECTS FLORIDA.

2869 IT DOES.

2870 BUT IT'S ALMOST AS IF THE.

2871 THE TALK ABOUT THE ALGORITHM THAT'S CREATED TO DECIDE WHETHER WHICH PROGRAM IS 2872 BEST OR NOT.

2873 THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

2874 WHAT IS THE BEST.

2875 MAYBE THIS CITY'S IN MY DISTRICT BUT IT'S BETTER IF THIS IS DONE OVER HERE IN 2876 THIS CITY.

2877 THAT MIGHT NOT BE MY DISTRICT.

2878 AND I THINK THAT HAVING COUNTY REPRESENTATION HERE AS LIMITED AS IT IS WITH 2879 FIVE OF US AND I PRETTY MUCH SHOW UP PROBABLY QUITE OFTEN TO BE HERE TO VOICE 2880 THE CONCERN OF BROWARD COUNTY IS TOTAL VIEW OF WHAT'S GOING ON COUNTYWIDE.

2881 IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO ALL OF THE COUNTY.

2882 SO AGAIN HAVING FOUR OF US AS ALTERNATIVE WE PROBABLY WON'T CHANGE A WHOLE LOT IN 2883 TERMS OF THE OUTCOMES OF THE VOTE BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN 2884 TAKEN WHEN THE COUNTY WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE WERE OFTEN OVERWHELMING IN TERMS 2885 OF MAYBE JUST FIVE OR SIX VOTES OR SEVEN IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING THAT WE STOOD FOR 2886 INCLUDING THE FIRST ATTEMPT AT THE PENNY TAX WHICH DIDN'T PASS OKAY BECAUSE IT 2887 DIDN'T BRING THAT TOTAL COUNTY WIDE PERSPECTIVE TO THE FULFILLMENT OF ENSURING 2888 THAT TRANSPORTATION BE GIVEN THE PRIORITY THAT ALL THE CITIES WANT A LITTLE 2889 PIECE OF IT WITH A HALF A PENNY AND THEN WORK SO I WOULD I WOULD ASK YOU TO 2890 CONSIDER US GETTING THOSE FOR AN ALTERNATIVE AND TO MY COLLEAGUES PROPOSAL THAT 2891 WE NOW HAVE EVERY CITY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE.

2892 I LIKE HIM BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERY CITY HAS AN 2893 OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AT SOME POINT IN TIME WITH WHERE THE SYSTEM IS SET UP 2894 WITH THE ALTERNATES THAT ARE HERE TO TO ADD ANOTHER LAYER I THINK WOULD MAKE IT 2895 MORE DIFFICULT FOR SOME CITIES TO HAVE ANY VOTE AT ALL ON ON ON ISSUES THAT 2896 COME BEFORE US AND I LIKE THE FACT THAT ALL THE CITIES ARE AT THE TABLE AND 2897 ALL THE CITIES ARE ABLE TO DEBATE THE ISSUES AND GIVE THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

2898 BUT I'D LIKE FOR US TO THINK THAT RATHER THAN SMALL CITY REPLACING ONE OF

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2899 THE PEOPLE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL THAT OPERATES COUNTY WIDE THAT IT OUGHT TO.

2900 IT'S BETTER IN MY MIND THAT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER WHO PRETTY MUCH OPERATES ON A 2901 REGIONAL BASIS THE WAY ARE ELECTED FROM DISTRICT B TO ONE SEATED AT THE TABLE 2902 MAKING THAT VOTE THAT THAT IS THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I BRING TO THIS.

2903 I HOPE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO.

2904 AND I WOULD ADD ONE.

2905 ONE FINAL POINT.

2906 THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS NO ALTERNATE.

2907 I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THEM HAVING AN ALTERNATE BECAUSE THEY BRING A COUNTY WIDE 2908 PERSPECTIVE ALSO A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE WHICH IS WHAT THIS BODY OUGHT TO FULLY 2909 AND TRULY REPRESENT A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE NOT JUST A CITY BUT BUT THE 2910 WHOLE REGION BECAUSE WE'RE ALL CONNECTED TO OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND 2911 ROADWAYS.

2912 OK EVERYBODY IT'S TWELVE THIRTY AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE NO LONGER EVEN AT THE 2913 TWENTY FIVE AT THIS POINT.

2914 SO EVERYBODY HERE WOULD GET TO VOTE.

2915 I HAVE A QUEUE THAT EXTENDS SO LONG THAT I CAN'T EVEN SEE THE PEOPLE ON THE SCREEN 2916 THAT HAVE REQUESTED TO SPEAK.

2917 I'M GOING TO OFFER SOME CONJECTURE AT THIS POINT.

2918 THIS IS MY PERSONAL CONJECTURE.

2919 I THINK EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS ISSUE AND WE 2920 CAN DEBATE THIS FOR ANOTHER HOUR OR TWO IF YOU WISH BUT I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY'S 2921 SITTING UP HERE ALREADY KNOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THESE ITEMS. 2922 THE CONUNDRUM THAT I'M PLACED IN IS THAT THE PERSON WHO PROPOSED THE ALTERNATE 2923 THAT WE ARE DEBATING AT THIS POINT HAS LEFT THE MEETING.

2924 SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED GENERAL COUNCIL SINCE THERE IS AN 2925 AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BUT NO MOTION OR SECOND.

2926 WHERE DO WE SIT WITH THIS AMENDMENT.

2927 THE MOTION TO AMEND WAS PROPOSED BY THE COMMISSIONE WHO'S NO LONGER HERE.

2928 CORRECT.

2929 WAS IT SECONDED? 2930 WELL WE DIDN'T.

2931 WE HAVEN'T MOVED TO PUT IT ON.

2932 I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BRING IT UP UNLESS ONE OF THE OTHER COUNTY COMMISSIONERS 2933 CAN WITHDRAW IT BUT I DOUBT THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO.

2934 THIS IS WHAT I'M GOING TO PROPOSE.

2935 IT'S BEEN CONSIDERED BY THE BY THE BOARD.

2936 SO YOU SHOULD.

2937 IT APPEARS WE HAVE DEBATED FOR THE LAST HALF HOUR JUST ON THE AMENDMENT.

2938 SO WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO US NOW IS LET'S FOREGO THE DEBATE FURTHER ON THIS 2939 AMENDMENT AND HAVING A VOTE FOR THE 19 5 AND 1 TO HAVE ALTERNATES.

2940 THAT'S THE THE SETUP THAT WAS PROPOSED BY BOARD MEMBER RYAN.

2941 SO I'LL LET YOU HAVE TIME TO TYPE THAT IN AND WE'LL CALL A VOTE JUST ON THAT 2942 AMENDMENT.

2943 SO SEE IF YOU HAVE A SECOND BECAUSE.

2944 2945 SO IT'S BEEN PROPOSED SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO APPROVE WHO WILL MAKE BOARD 2946 MEMBER RYAN'S AMENDMENT AS A COURTESY I WILL.

2947 OKAY.

2948 AND THEN IS THERE A SECOND TO BOARD MEMBER RYAN'S AMENDED MOTION DOESN'T GET 2949 A SECOND IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND UNLESS SOMEONE WANTS TO HAVE THE VOTE.

2950 THERE IS NO SECOND SO THAT IS NOW DISPOSED OF IT DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND 2951 SECOND.

2952 NOW BACK TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION THAT WAS ADVERTISED FOR TODAY'S AGENDA FOR 2953 ACTION ITEM 4 IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ACTION ITEM FOR IT WILL BE 2954 RECOGNIZED.

2955 THAT IS CORRECT AND WELL IF YOU WANT.

2956 ITT IS YOUR CONTENTIOUS.

2957 2958 IT.

2959 OK.

2960 IN THAT CASE TO THE DEBATE IT IS.

2961 I KNOW I HAD A MEETING AT 12 O'CLOCK I'M SUPPOSED TO BE AT.

2962 AND IT WAS A VOTING OF THE TOWN COUNCIL SO I MADE THAT COMMITMENT TO BE HERE.

2963 SO YOU'RE RECOGNIZED BOARD MEMBER SHARIEF.

2964 SP BASICALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS I WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT I WASN'T IN FAVOR 2965 OF COMMISSIONER RYAN'S AMENDMENT AND THERE WAS A REASON FOR THAT.

2966 FIRST OF ALL GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THEN TO THE.

2967 FIRST OF ALL GOING BACK TO THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS ITEM THAT'S ON THE 2968 AGENDA RIGHT NOW THAT I'M GETTING READY TO SPEAK TO THE MPO ASKED TO FOR 2969 ADDITIONAL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO BE ON THIS DAIS AND OUT OF THE 2970 UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TERM LIMITS MEANING THAT AFTER 12 YEARS OF SERVING ON 2971 THIS BOARD AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND TWO YEARS AS A CITY COMMISSIONER IN 2972 2022 I WILL LEAVE THIS POSITION BECAUSE I CHOSE TO BE ON THE MPO BOARD.

2973 THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD WHICH I SERVE WHICH 2974 IS THE MPO WILL GO BYE BYE WITH ME.

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2975 AND SO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS IF I WAS ABSENT FROM A MEETING.

2976 COMMENTS WERE MADE IN MAY BY MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WHO COULD VOTE 2977 IN MY STEAD ABOUT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER OR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER OR NOT 2978 BEING HERE.

2979 AND SO WE TOOK THOSE COMMENTS BACK AND SAID OK T MAKE SURE THAT A COUNTY 2980 COMMISSIONER WAS SITTING ON THIS DAY IS AS A RESULT OF THOSE COMPLAINTS AND THOSE 2981 COMMENTS FROM OUR MUNICIPALITIES.

2982 A MOTION WAS BROUGHT FORTH TO TRY TO GET ALTERNATES SO THAT WAY YOU WOULD ALWAYS 2983 HAVE ONE OF US IN PLACE OF THE OTHER THAT WAS IN HERE.

2984 NOW IF YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU DON'T MIND A COUNTY COMMISSIONER BEING ABSENT 2985 FROM A MEETING AND YOU WON'T BE BASHING US FROM NOW UNTIL THE TOWN THE COWS 2986 COME HOME.

2987 I DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A CITY COMMISSIONER VOTING IN MY STEAD BECAUSE 2988 THAT WAS WHAT I HAD ACCEPTED FOR 10 YEARS BEING ON THIS BOARD.

2989 ADDITIONALLY AS A REGIONAL BODY WHEN THE COUNTY COMMISSION GETS TOGETHER 2990 AND WE VOTE WE ARE NOT VOTING FOR INDIVIDUAL POSITIONS.

2991 WE HAVE HEARD FROM MANY MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD FROM CITIES THAT THEY VOTE FOR 2992 THEMSELVES WHEN THEY'RE ON THIS BOARD.

2993 THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

2994 WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU A REGIONAL PERSPECTIVE.

2995 SO I HAVE NOT BEEN COMBATIVE.

2996 I HAVE NOT BEEN ANGRY.

2997 I HAVE NOT BEEN UPSET ON THIS BOARD.

2998 IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST SOMETHING THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF I USUALLY TRY TO 2999 FIGURE OUT WHY.

3000 JUST LIKE THE SURTAX YOU KNOW MY REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY HALLANDALE KEITH 3001 LONDON WAS A NO VOTE ON OUR SURTAX ON OUR INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT.

3002 AND HE SAID HE WAS VOTING FOR HIMSELF.

3003 I DON'T REPRESENT I REPRESENT HALLANDALE AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3004 WHEN WHEN OTHER PEOPLE BOUGHT UP ITEMS ABOUT THE SURTAX AND THE 3005 TRANSPORTATION TAX I SAID SURE LET ME SEE HOW I CAN HELP OUT [INAUDIBLE].

3006 LET ME SEE HOW I CAN HELP OUT OTHER SMALL CITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.

3007 I REPRESENT THE UNINCORPORATED AREA I REPRESENT EVERY 3008 MUNICIPALITY.

3009 WHEN I SIT UP HERE ON THIS BOARD I DID NOT ASK TO EXPAND THE MPO BOARD AND 3010 INCLUDE MORE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

3011 YOU DID AND BECAUSE THE REP BUT THE RELATIONSHIP HAD BEEN SO CONTENTIOUS IN THE 3012 PAST.

3013 YOU FINALLY GOT BOARD MEMBERS WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO BE HERE AND IS STILL THE 3014 SAME STAFF.

3015 SO WHAT DO YOU WANT.

3016 IF YOU DO TRULY WANT THE COUNTY COMMISSION PERSPECTIVE AND YOU ACTUALLY 3017 WANT A COUNTY COMMISSIONER SITTING IN THE CHAIR WITHOUT BEING ABSENT THEN 3018 YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT AN ALTERNATE COUNTY COMMISSIONER TAKING THEIR 3019 PLACE.

3020 BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD ALL SHOW UP AND IT WOULD ALWAYS BE MEMBERS HERE 3021 THAT COULDN'T VOTE.

3022 I AM PERFECTLY FINE WITH A CITY MUNICIPAL REPRESENTATIVE VOTING IN MY 3023 STEAD BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS DID.

3024 ADDITIONALLY TO THAT I DO NOT VOTE AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU.

3025 AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I WAS GOING TO SUPPORT THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO ALLOW 3026 THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO BE ALTERNATES FOR THEMSELVES BECAUSE I WANTED 3027 TO CONTINUE THE LONG RANGE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HAD COME ON HERE PEOPLE PEOPLE COME 3028 ON AND OFF OUR BOARD BASED ON TERM LIMITS.

3029 SO I GOT THREE MORE YEARS HERE.

3030 I WANTED TO SERVE HERE THREE MORE YEARS AND THEN LEAVE AND YOU GET A NEW 3031 MEMBER AND THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS.

3032 WE WERE TRYING TO PREPARE OTHER PEOPLE TO TAKE OUR PLACES AND TO REPRESENT 3033 ISSUES AND TO KNOW THE HISTORY SO IT IS AT WHATEVER YOU WANT LET ME 3034 KNOW AND I'LL VOTE THAT WAY.

3035 THANK YOU.

3036 BOARD MEMBER FOR COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE SIR THANK YOU.

3037 I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE IDEA THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS BRINGING UP THE 3038 IDEA THAT THERE IS A COMMISSIONER OR COUNTY COMMISSIONER WITHIN EACH 3039 DISTRICT MAKES SENSE.

3040 THAT IS NOT PART OF THE WHAT WE WERE ABOUT TO VOTE ON.

3041 IT IS NOT IN THERE.

3042 IT WAS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT BUT I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY PUT IT IN 3043 THERE.

3044 THAT MAKES SENSE THAT KIND OF PULLS TOGETHER THE ENTIR STRUCTURE OF THIS PLAN 3045 WHICH IS NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.

3046 IN ADDITION I THINK THERE SHOULD BE AN ALTERNATE FOR SCHOOL BOARD.

3047 I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I KNOW.

3048 I'M NOT SURE MY FELLOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE ON THIS BUT I WOULD SUPPORT

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3049 WHAT.

3050 THE IDEA THAT ALL FIVE.

3051 THERE IS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN EACH DISTRICT AND THAT THERE IS 3052 ONE ALTERNATE.

3053 I WILL TELL YOU MY MY OWN CONCERN ON THAT EVEN I COULD GO WITH IT.

3054 MY OWN CONCERN WITH THAT IS IF WE START TO THINK IN TERMS OF DISTRICT BY 3055 DISTRICT BY DISTRICT THEN YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DISTRICT HAS THE 3056 ENTIRE FULL SUPPORT.

3057 IT COULD HAVE YOU LOSE THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BUT 3058 YOU DON'T HAVE IT ANY WAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO GO 3059 AROUND BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY NINE OF US.

3060 SO YOU'RE ALREADY LOSING A LITTLE BIT BUT IF IT IS I THINK THERE IS SOME 3061 CONSENSUS HERE THAT I THINK WE COULD GET THERE AND I THINK THAT CONSENSUS IS 3062 COUNTY COMMISSION APPOINTS 5.

3063 THERE IS ONE FOR EVERY DISTRICT WHERE ONE GETS ASSIGNED TO EVERY DISTRICT 3064 AND THEN THERE IS A COUNTY COMMISSION ALTERNATE THAT CAN AT LEAST IF ONE OF THEM 3065 ARE NOT GONNA BE THERE.

3066 THEY CAN SHOW UP.

3067 OKAY IT'S NOT ALL NINE BUT IT'S SIX.

3068 AND I THINK IT AND TO BE HONEST THAT IS ACTUALLY IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE 3069 STATUTE THAT'S ACTUALLY THE WAY IT SHOULD BE GIVEN THE 20 PERCENT RULE.

3070 THAT MAKES SENSE.

3071 I CAN GO WITH THAT.

3072 WE CAN GET OUT OF HERE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO IT.

3073 I THINK.

3074 I DON'T KNOW IF PATTY HAD MADE THAT AMENDMENT OR THAT MOTION BUT I THINK, I GUESS 3075 I NEED TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

3076 WELL ACTUALLY NEED TO HEAR FROM THE WHOLE BOARD.

3077 THE WHOLE BOARD.

3078 I MEAN IF THEY WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT.

3079 OK NEXT UP IT LOOKS LIKE THIS PROGRAM HAS JUST LOCKE UP.

3080 YES.

3081 BOARD.

3082 BOARD MEMBER GANZ.

3083 WELL ACTUALLY IT JUST REALLY LOCKED UP.

3084 SO IF YOU STILL WANT TO SPEAK YOU HAVE TO NOW REQUEST BECAUSE THEY JUST 3085 CLEARED THE QUEUE.

3086 BOARD MEMBER GANZ.

3087 THANK YOU.

3088 LOOK WE NEED TO PULL AWAY FROM THIS LEDGE THAT WE'RE WALKING TOWARDS RIGHT NOW.

3089 I AGREE WITH ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY COMMISSIONER FURR.

3090 ONE IS A NEW COMMISSION THAT YOU HAVE UP THERE.

3091 IT'S A JOY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL OF YOU.

3092 IT IS A NEW DAY AND IT'S A NEW RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY.

3093 AND I AGREE WITH YOUR IDEA OF HAVING AN ALTERNATE AND THE NEED FOR AN ALTERNATE.

3094 BUT I DISAGREE WITH THE APPROACH THAT'S BEEN TAKEN AND WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED.

3095 LET'S TALK REALITY.

3096 WE DON'T MEET IN DISTRICTS.

3097 I DON'T HAVE A DISTRICT 2 MPO SUB MEETING BEFORE I COME TO THIS MEETING AND 3098 HOW I VOTE.

3099 NOBODY DOES.

3100 NOR HAVE I EVER HAD A COUNTY MEMBER AT LARGE COME TO MY CITY SAY I'M ABOUT TO 3101 VOTE FOR THE MPO.

3102 WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK.

3103 DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

3104 SO MAKING THAT WHOLE ARGUMENT I DISAGREE WITH.

3105 I WILL SAY THIS.

3106 THE COUNTY DESERVES TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE.

3107 MATTER OF FACT, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HAVE TWO.

3108 IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE FAIR YOU HAVE FIVE MEMBERS ON HERE.

3109 I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE TWO ALTERNATES IN MY OPINION.

3110 AND HERE'S WHY I FEEL BAD COMING IN HERE LATE BECAUS THERE'S SOMEBODY WHO GOT 3111 THEIR HOPES UP THINKING THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE TODAY.

3112 AND I CAME IN AND THEY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE.

3113 THE REALITY OF HOW CITIES WORK IS I DON'T GO TO MY NEIGHBORING CITY AND SAY 3114 THERE'S AN MPO ITEM COMING UP I WANT YOU TO VOTE THIS WAY.

3115 WE ALWAYS WORK OUR WAY UP THE CHAIN.

3116 YOU GO TO THE COUNTY.

3117 MY COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE I HAVE TWO OF THEM.

3118 NEITHER ONE OF THEM REPRESENT ARE HERE ON THE MPO.

3119 BUT I WOULD GO OR I WOULD HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WOULD GO TO THE MEMBERS OF THE 3120 COUNTY TO ASK THEM ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GAIN 3121 THEIR SUPPORT.

3122 FOR THE CITY'S NEVER HAVING.

3123 THIS DATA THAT WE WERE GIVEN IS OUTSTANDING BUT WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 3124 INTERESTING TO SEE IS HOW MANY TIMES AN ALTERNATE HAD THE ABILITY TO VOTE IN ALL 3125 THESE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE.

3126 HOW MANY TIMES THAT'S ONE OF THE LAZY LAKES ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO VOTE.

3127 IT DOESN'T HAPPEN BUT WHAT THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IS GO TO THEIR COUNTY 3128 MEMBERS AND SPEAK TO THEM AND ASK FOR THEIR SUPPORT.

3129 THE COUNTY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF REPRESENTING THOSE WHO 3130 DON'T HAVE A VOICE HERE AT THE TABLE.

3131 THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

3132 THEY SERVE IN A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT POSITION.

3133 I VOTED AGAINST GIVING YOU AN ALTERNATE THE LAST TIME AND I THINK IT'S 3134 PRESUMPTUOUS TO ASSUME EVERYONE KNOWS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE BEFORE A 3135 DEBATE HAS HAPPENED I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY INCORRECT AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT 3136 WE'RE ALLOWING EVERYBODY'S VOICE TO BE HEARD TODAY.

3137 BUT I WILL SAY THIS.

3138 I DON'T LIKE WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN THIS DEBATE.

3139 WE'RE GETTING BACK TO THE PAROCHIAL BEHAVIOR THAT WE'VE HAD.

3140 I THINK [INAUDIBLE] SAID IT BEST AND TALKING ABOUT WE KNOW WHERE WE WERE AT.

3141 WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE NOW.

3142 LET'S NOT GO THERE AGAIN.

3143 WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THESE ARGUMENTS.

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3144 I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE WHAT SOUNDED LIKE AN IDLE THREAT OF IF WE HAVEN'T SIGNED 3145 THIS AGREEMENT THAT IT TAKES US FROM 19 TO 25 MEMBERS.

3146 THE OTHER THING I WILL SAY THIS I DON'T APPRECIATE IN ONE OF THESE MEETINGS 3147 HAVING A BOARD MEMBER WALKING AROUND TALKING TO OTHERS WHEN OTHERS HAVE THE 3148 TABLE OR HAVE THE MICROPHONE IT'S RUDE AND THEY NEED TO BE CORRECTED 3149 IMMEDIATELY ON IT.

3150 I THINK THAT'S COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE.

3151 I ALSO THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE TO RUSH ALON THESE VOTES IF YOU HAVE 3152 SOMEPLACE TO GO.

3153 GO.

3154 I'M ON PTO TODAY.

3155 EVERY TIME I'M IN HERE I'M USING MY PTO TO SIT HERE AND MAKE A DECISION.

3156 IF YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER VOTE TO GO TO GO TO IT.

3157 WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE STEP IN.

3158 I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE BUT I THINK IT IS RUDE TO TRY TO IGNORE THE VOICES OF 3159 THOSE OF US FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T GET A CHANCE TO VOTE.

3160 IMAGINE BEING UP YOU'RE ALLOWED TO VOTE BUT NOT ALLOWED TO TALK BECAUSE 3161 THEY'RE TRYING TO RUSH IT THROUGH.

3162 I DON'T LIKE THAT.

3163 AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT.

3164 AND I WOULD HOPE THAT DOESN'T CONTINUE.

3165 I SUPPORT HAVING TWO ALTERNATES FOR THE COUNTY.

3166 I ALSO SUPPORT HAVING A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER ALTERNATE.

3167 I'M NOT GOING TO PRESENT THAT AS ANOTHER BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE 3168 THIS ANYMORE.

3169 BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IN THE END.

3170 I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED HERE.

3171 THAT'S MY OPINION.

3172 WELL WE ARE IN THE DEBATE PROCESS AT THIS TIME AND TH RULES THAT WERE STATED 3173 EARLIER I WANT TO LET BOARD MEMBER GANZ KNOW YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED 3174 AND APPRECIATED AND I UNDERSTOOD THEM.

3175 I JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT WAS QUICKLY MADE IN THE 3176 MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION WAS THAT THE MEETING WENT SO LONG THAT MEMBERSHIP HAD 3177 FAILED TO BE HERE AND THEREFORE THE APPROPRIATE DEBATE WAS NOT OCCURRING 3178 AND I WAS ATTEMPTING TO PREVENT THAT FROM BEING AN ARGUMENT A SECOND TIME.

3179 AND ALSO PLEASE NOTE THAT WHEN THERE WAS AN OBJECTION TO IT, THAT OBJECTION WAS 3180 RECOGNIZED AND WE PROCEEDED FOR FURTHER DEBATE.

3181 NEXT IN LINE IS BOARD MEMBER HOLNESS.

3182 THANK YOU.

3183 I WOULD BEG MY FRIEND SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOOD TO AMEND HER PROPOSAL OR FOR 3184 COMMISSIONER UDINE TO MAKE IT WHERE I BELIEVE WE CAN FIND CONSENSUS THAT THERE 3185 ARE TWO ALTERNATIVES FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND ONE ALTERNATIVE FOR THE 3186 SCHOOL BOARD.

3187 I'M SORRY.

3188 ALTERNATE.

3189 THANK YOU.

3190 BOARD MEMBER CLARK YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

3191 OH YES.

3192 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

3193 AFTER HEARING ALL THE DIALOGUE I BELIEVE THAT WHAT BARBRA SHARIEF COUNTY 3194 COMMISSIONER BARBARA SHARIEF AND DALE HOLNESS ARE SAYING NOW IS MORE REASONABLE THAN 3195 WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS FAR AS THAT OTHER AMENDMENT WHICH JUST TOOK AWAY ALL 3196 HOPE.

3197 HOWEVER I DO HAVE TO SAY ONE THING.

3198 WE ARE IN A POINT WE ARE AT A POINT OF TIME WHERE WE'RE BEING BLESSED.

3199 THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY GOING TO COME IN HERE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE 3200 WHOLE COUNTY.

3201 AND WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER AND I RESPECT MY COUNTY COMMISSIONER SO MUCH 3202 THAT IF SHE TELLS ME RIGHT NOW CLARK VOTE THIS WAY I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AND 3203 BRING IT UP NEXT MONTH.

3204 BUT I WILL GO WITH HER WAY BECAUSE I RESPECT HER.

3205 I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU'RE BRINGING TO WHERE WE'RE NOT SITTING 3206 THERE AS CITIES SAYING OH CAN I TRUST MY COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3207 I THINK THAT YOU'RE ALLEVIATING THAT AND YOU'RE MAKING IT SO WE DO TRUST 3208 EACH OTHER.

3209 AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE RICH.

3210 THIS COUNTY IS GONNA BE RICH.

3211 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE MONEY COMING IN HERE.

3212 I MEAN IT'S JUST A BLESSING.

3213 SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER.

3214 I WOULD GO WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID BY COMMISSIONER HOLNESS AND BARBARA 3215 SHARIEF AND OTHERS THAT SAID THE TWO ALTERNATIVES AND ONE FOR THE SCHOOL 3216 BOARD MEMBER AND THE REST OF US HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3217 OK.

3218 THE POINT IS TAKEN.

3219 WE ARE IN A DEBATE FOR.

3220 CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING.

3221 YES.

3222 ALL COMMISSIONERS ALL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

3223 WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH EVERYBODY.

3224 OKAY.

3225 THANK YOU.

3226 DO I HAVE TO LEAVE NOW.

3227 NO.

3228 ACTUALLY EVERYBODY HERE IS VOTING AND IT COUNTS.

3229 BOARD MEMBER JAFFE.

3230 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

3231 YOU KNOW WE JUST HAD A WESTON CITY COMMISSION MEETING THAT WENT FROM 7:00 3232 P.M.

3233 UNTIL 1:00 A.M.

3234 AND IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF WESTON MOST MEETINGS LASTED USUALLY ONE HOUR TO 3235 TWO HOURS MAXIMUM.

3236 I GUESS IT'S JUST A SIGN OF THE TIMES NOW THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE DEBATE BETWEEN 3237 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AND ENTITIES WHICH I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH I'LL STAY 3238 HERE AND LISTEN IF I FEEL STRONGLY AND I WANT TO STAY TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.

3239 WHEN I WAS APPOINTED TO THIS ORGANIZATION IT WAS M UNDERSTANDING THAT AS A

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3240 REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION THAT LOOKS AT THE ENTIRE COUNTY WIDE AS 3241 WELL AS OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES.

3242 WITH THAT BEING SAID THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO REPRESENT, THEY'RE ELECTED 3243 IN DISTRICTS BUT THEY REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ALL THE POPULATION 3244 THERE IN TERMS OF GOING BACK TO THE VOTING VERSUS NON-VOTING MEMBERS.

3245 YOU KNOW THE 25 VOTING VERSUS 13 ALTERNATE, THAT'S A STATUTE THAT WE'RE NOT 3246 GOING TO CHANGE TONIGHT.

3247 I THINK I WAS CLEAR THAT I DO FEEL THERE IS INEQUITIES IN THAT.

3248 AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, VICE CHAIR, GOOD.

3249 I THOUGHT SHE HAD AN AMENDMENT OUT HERE THAT SAID TO ADD ONE ALTERNATE 3250 FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION IN OTHER WORDS IF ONE OF THEM WERE ABSENT IF A TOTAL 3251 OF FIVE WERE HERE AND ONE IS ABSENT THEY CAN APPOINT AN ALTERNATE.

3252 IF ALL FIVE ARE ABSENT THEN THEY CAN ONLY APPOINT ONE ALTERNATE.

3253 AND IF COMMISSIONER FURR AGREES WITH THAT I THINK IT WOULD UNIFY THIS 3254 ORGANIZATION AND THIS ENTITY INSTEAD OF BEING DIVIDED WE CAN MOVE FORWARD 3255 WITH A SOLUTION HERE.

3256 YES SIR YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN THOUGH WHEN SHE PRESENTED THAT THERE WAS AN 3257 AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR FROM BOARD MEMBER RYAN THAT HAS AS YOU KNOW BEEN VOTED DOWN 3258 AND WE ARE BACK TO 4A WHICH IS BEEN ON DEBATE AMONG US FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF 3259 AT THAT TIME AND DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD AGREED THAT IF FOR A IS VOTED DOWN THAT 3260 THEN HER AMENDMENT WOULD BE OFFERED AS ANOTHER ONE.

3261 SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON 4A AND THEN IF IT FAILS WE WILL THEN VOTE ON HAVING 3262 THE ONE ALTERNATIVE.

3263 I HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TWO 3264 ALTERNATIVES.

3265 SO IF THE ONE ALTERNATIVE FAILS THEN I ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A 3266 MOTION FOR TWO ALTERNATIVES.

3267 3268 THERE IS NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

3269 3270 THIS IS WE'RE LOSING ORDER HERE.

3271 THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH IT.

3272 OK WE ARE GOING TO FINISH THE DEBATE WHICH IS NOW ON 4A.

3273 AFTER THE DEBATE HAS FINISHED AND THERE ARE STILL SPEAKERS THAT WE ALL 3274 AGREED WOULD WE WOULD LISTEN TO.

3275 THEY HAVE WAITED TILL ONE O'CLOCK AFTER THAT DEBATE.

3276 WE WILL HAVE A MOTION ON 4A.

3277 AND IF IT PASSES WE MOVE ON.

3278 IF IT DOESN'T WE WILL HEAR THE ALTERNATIVE BEING OFFERED BY DEPUTY VICE 3279 CHAIR GOOD.

3280 SO WITH THAT DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD AT YOUR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

3281 I WAS GOING TO.

3282 I WAS AFFORDING THE DEBATE TO THROUGH YOU TO ALLOW THE DEBATE TO CONTINUE SO I CAN 3283 MAKE A MOTION.

3284 BUT IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT HAVE NOT SPOKEN I WILL WAIT TILL THEY HAVE SPOKEN.

3285 THERE ARE THREE MORE REQUESTS.

3286 BOARD MEMBER UDINE.

3287 THANK YOU CHAIR.

3288 I WAS JUST GOING TO AMEND MY ORIGINAL 4A MOTION TO INCLUDE WHAT'S IN THERE NOW 3289 BUT CHANGE IT TO HAVE TWO ALTERNATES FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND ONE ALTERNATE 3290 FROM THE BROWARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD.

3291 OK.

3292 WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NOW HAVE HER TO TYPE IN 3293 THAT WE HAVE BEEN THAT THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR NOW TO RECOGNIZE THAT 3294 THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO AGENDA ITEM 4A TO INCLUDE TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONER 3295 ALTERNATES.

3296 3297 3298 THE FLOOR.

3299 3300 I TOO WISH THAT THE DEBATE WOULD CONTINUE FIRSTHAND BECAUSE IN REALITY WITH THE 3301 RECOGNIZING OF THE MOTION IT OPENS IT UP FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF DEBATE SPECIFICALLY 3302 JUST FOR THE AMENDMENT.

3303 SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE WRITTEN.

3304 OKAY WE'RE GOOD.

3305 SO IF YOU'LL MAKE YOUR MOTION DIGITALLY.

3306 3307 AND YOU AS A COURTESY DID NOT AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT BUT I KNOW.

3308 SO MR. CHAIR IF YOU.

3309 WELL IT'S BEEN KIND OF ADDING IN THERE.

3310 SO ARE YOU DEFERING? 3311 I'LL DEFER TO COMMISSIONER GOOD IF SHE WANTS TO MAKE HER MOTION 3312 FIRST.

3313 I'M NOT LOOKING TO.

3314 OKAY.

3315 SHE WANTED TO WAIT.

3316 I WOULD RECOGNIZE HER AFTER THE DEBATE HAS ENDED ON 4A.

3317 WHICH WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER WHICH IS FORMER CHAIR.

3318 I HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

3319 OKAY.

3320 HE'S WITHDRAWN.

3321 BOARD MEMBER LAZAROW.

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3322 I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE THAT NO MATTER WHO MAKES THAT MOTION EVERYBODY KIND 3323 OF ALREADY KNOWS WHAT NUMBER THEY'RE GONNA GO FOR WHETHER IT'S 1 OR 2.

3324 SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW SCHOOL MEMBER GOOD YOU DON'T THINK EVERYBODY IN HERE 3325 KNOWS YOU'RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD SO I'M NOT SURE.

3326 3327 THEY WOULD VOTE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER MOTION MADE 3328 AFTER THAT SO MAYBE I'M CONFUSED.

3329 MAYBE I DON'T UNDERSTAND CHAIR CALETKA.

3330 OKAY.

3331 SO WHERE WE'RE AT IS SHE WAS OUT OF COURTESY WAITING FOR THE DEBATE ON 3332 4A TO END AND THEN SHE WAS GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEN IT FOR ONE COUNTY 3333 COMMISSIONER BUT SHE DEFERRED OUT OF COURTESY TO THE BOARD.

3334 AND SINCE THE MAKER OF THE LAST MOTION WITHDREW WE'RE STILL IN DEBATE FOR 4A 3335 WITH YOU BEING THE LAST SPEAKER IN THE QUEUE.

3336 THERE IS NO MOTION ACTUALLY ON THE FLOOR FOR AN AMENDMENT.

3337 THAT IS CORRECT.

3338 IT WAS COMMISSIONER GOOD, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER GOOD GOING TO MAKE HER MOTION TO 3339 AMEND? 3340 IF SHE.

3341 IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE? 3342 OKAY.

3343 NOW YOU GOT TO CALL THE VOTE.

3344 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR GOOD YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR A MOTION.

3345 THANK YOU.

3346 THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

3347 GREAT DEBATE.

3348 I'LL JUST MY MOTION IS TO AMEND WHAT'S BEFORE US TO INCLUDE ONE ALTERNATE FOR 3349 THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN 3350 DICTATE HOW THE COUNTY APPOINTS INDIVIDUALS BUT MY DESIRE IS THAT FIVE COUNTY 3351 COMMISSIONERS BE APPOINTED REPRESENTING EACH OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS WITH ONE 3352 ALTERNATE AND THAT OUR BYLAWS BE AMENDED TO ADDRESS OUR NON MUNICIPAL 3353 ALTERNATES AS WELL.

3354 THAT'S MY MOTION.

3355 SO IF I COULD ASK IF YOU WOULD FOCUS ON JUST THE ALTERNATE ONE ALTERNATE 3356 COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3357 THE ITEM B THAT'S ALSO ON YOUR AGENDA WAS FOR BYLAWS.

3358 THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE DEFERRED TO OBVIOUSLY ALLOW US TO MODIFY IT TO BRING IT 3359 BACK.

3360 THAT'S FINE.

3361 I'LL TAKE IT AS A SEPARATE MOTION AND I'LL ASK THAT IT BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE 3362 EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

3363 IT'S ONE ALTERNATE COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3364 AND YOU'RE NOT.

3365 YOU'RE NOT PROMOTING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER HAVE AN ALTERNATE.

3366 AND ON THAT POINT I APPRECIATE THE REFERENCE THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE MADE 3367 ON MY ON THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BEHALF NOT MY BEHALF BUT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BEHALF 3368 BUT I WILL SAY THAT THAT WILL MINIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR SMALLER 3369 MUNICIPALITIES AND MY WHOLE DESIRE FOR THIS MOTION WAS TO BRING US ALL TOGETHER SO 3370 THAT THEY WOULD STILL HAVE A VOICE AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WOULD FEEL 3371 THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN ALTERNATE VOICE SHOULD THEY NOT BE PRESENT.

3372 SO MY MOTION STANDS.

3373 ONE ALTERNATE FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY 3374 HAVE FIVE APPOINTEES REPRESENTING EACH OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS.

3375 SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

3376 IF YOU CAN PUSH THE MOTION BUTTON.

3377 OH IT'S.

3378 IT HAS BEEN SO GOOD.

3379 AND JAFFE.

3380 SO WHAT THIS IS IS WE WILL NOW BEGIN DEBATE AND.

3381 THAT FIVE.

3382 I'M SORRY MR. CHAIR IF I COULD CLARIFY.

3383 THE FIVE DISTRICTS INCLUDES THE FSRTA.

3384 THAT'S A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT THEY REPRESENT THIS RTA.

3385 BUT IT HAPPENS TO BE BY COUNTY COMMISSION.

3386 SO I'M CLARIFYING IN TOTAL BE FIVE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

3387 AND MY DESIRE IS THAT THE FIVE DISTRICTS BE REPRESENTED INCLUDING THEIR 3388 SFRTA MEMBER WITH ONE ALTERNATE.

3389 THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT THE SFRTA IS.

3390 WHO APPOINTS THAT MEMBER.

3391 BY THE INTERLOCAL IT'S SEPARATED BY THE COUNTY IT'S THE COUNTY COMMISSION 3392 THAT APPOINTS THAT MEMBER.

3393 THE COUNTY COMMISSION APPOINTS THAT MEMBER.

3394 3395 TO ENSURE THAT WHEN THEY APPOINT THAT MEMBER THAT THE OTHER FOUR REPRESENT THE 3396 OTHER AREAS NOT REPRESENTED BY THAT MEMBER.

3397 HOW DO YOU THINK I SHOULD MAKE THAT MOTION? 3398 SO THE SFRTA REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER 3399 REPRESENTING THAT ENTITY AND THEN YOU'RE IDENTIFYING THAT THE OTHER FOUR COUNTY 3400 COMMISSIONERS WOULD BE REPRESENT IT'S ACTUALLY SHOULD JUST BE AT LARGE 3401 BECAUSE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

3402 THAT'S NOT MY MOTION.

3403 I UNDERSTAND THAT.

3404 BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM OF PUTTING IT BY DISTRICT THEY CAN DESIGNATE IT BY 3405 DISTRICT IF THE COUNTY CHOOSES TO DO THAT.

3406 I MEAN THAT'S WE CAN MAKE IT THAT WAY BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE 3407 COUNTY IN THAT SAME DISTRICT CAPACITY.

3408 SO IT CAUSES SOME CONFUSION AS WE'RE SITTING HERE.

3409 I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW.

3410 I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY CLEAR.

3411 NO.

3412 DEPUTY VICE CHAIR YOU WERE VERY CLEAR.

3413 I WAS VERY CLEAR MY INTENT AND I'M SURE IF I'M IF I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO 3414 TELL THE COUNTY HOW TO APPOINT THEN THAT'S FINE THEN YOU NEED TO TELL ME 3415 THAT AND THAT'S FINE.

3416 BUT MY DESIRE IS I WANT THE COUNTY TO HAVE REPRESENTATION COUNTYWIDE SO

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3417 THAT THEY CAN HAVE FIVE MEMBERS REPRESENTING THEIR DISTRICT.

3418 AND IF I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE FOUR THAT GET APPOINTED THEN I WOULD SAY THEN THEY 3419 HAVE FOUR APPOINTEES INCLUDING THE ONE THAT'S APPOINTED FOR THE SFRTA AND 3420 ONE ALTERNATE THEN.

3421 AND THE ALTERNATE WOULD REPRESENT ANY OF THE FOUR.

3422 YES.

3423 YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

3424 AND NONE FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.

3425 THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THAT IS IN 2022 WHEN WE REDISTRICT IT COULD 3426 POTENTIALLY HAVE WHERE ONE COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS THE ONLY PERSON THAT COULD BE 3427 IN TO THAT DISTRICT.

3428 LIKE COMMISSIONER UDINE, IT MIGHT REQUIRE HIM TO SERVE ON THE MPO BECAUSE HE'S THE 3429 ONLY ONE THAT REPRESENTS THAT ENTIRE DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS 3430 THE ONE THAT THEY APPOINT THEIR OWN MEMBERSHIP.

3431 I MEAN I THINK I LOOKED AT THE DISTRICT'S.

3432 COMMISSIONER SHARIEF HAS DISTRICTS PORTIONS OF FIVE AND FOUR.

3433 COMMISSIONER FURR HAS DISTRICT'S FIVE AND FOUR.

3434 COMMISSIONER RYAN HAS DISTRICTS FOUR AND THREE.

3435 COMMISSIONER HOLNESS HAS THREE AND ONE AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER UDINE MAY 3436 ONLY HAVE ONE.

3437 SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IF I MIGHT JUST SUGGEST WE AS IF THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD 3438 CHOOSES TO DO AND DIRECT IT THAT WAY.

3439 AND WE CAN ASK SEND THAT TO THE COUNTY AND ASK THEM TO CONSIDER THAT PROPOSAL AND 3440 IF THEY FIND IT FOR WHATEVER REASON IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THEM BECAUSE OF THE 3441 DISTRICT RECOGNITION THEN THEY CAN COME BACK I'M BEING TOLD THAT SOME OF THE 3442 SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, I'M SORRY.

3443 COUNTY COMMISSION MEMBERS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE DISTRICT TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONER MAY 3444 NOT BE INTERESTED IN COMING HERE AND REPRESENTING THE MPO AND THAT WOULD BE 3445 PROBLEMATIC FOR THE MPO AND FOR THE COUNTY.

3446 SO MY MOTION IS FOR THE COUNTY COMMISSION TO HAVE ONE ALTERNATE.

3447 OK SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER 3448 JAFFE TO GIVE ONE ALTERNATE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND IT IS AN AT LARGE 3449 POSITION.

3450 THE DEBATE WILL BEGIN ON THIS ALTERNATIVE MOTION BEGINNING WITH COUNTY 3451 REPRESENTATIVE FURR.

3452 THANK YOU.

3453 I THINK WE'RE REAL CLOSE.

3454 WE'RE REAL CLOSE ON THIS.

3455 I DO APPRECIATE MAYOR GANZ'S THINKING.

3456 WE WERE THINKING THERE WOULD BE 4 COUNTY COMMISSIONER ALTERNATES THE PROPOSAL 3457 IS ONE.

3458 I THINK A MIDDLE GROUND OF TWO IS GOOD.

3459 I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

3460 I ALSO DO THINK HAVING AN ALTERNATE FOR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER MAKES SENSE.

3461 WE WANT THAT PERSPECTIVE.

3462 WE ABSOLUTELY NEED THAT PERSPECTIVE.

3463 THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT DEAL WITH SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES AND IT DOES NOT MAKE 3464 SENSE TO ME TO HAVE A AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

3465 I DON'T KNOW ALL SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES.

3466 MUNICIPAL.

3467 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW THE SCHOOL BOARD ISSUES.

3468 WE NEED THAT PERSPECTIVE PRESERVE IT.

3469 THERE'S A REASON YOU HAVE THOSE VOTING STRENGTHS AND RELATIVE.

3470 SO MY AMENDMENT TO THIS IS TO PROVIDE FOR TWO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND ONE 3471 SCHOOL BOARD ALTERNATE.

3472 OKAY.

3473 AT THIS TIME THERE'S BEEN AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT.

3474 THE AMENDMENT MOTION IS TO ALLOW FOR TWO AT LARGE COUNTY COMMISSION 3475 DISTRICTS.

3476 OK.

3477 SO IF YOU CAN CUE THAT IN WE WILL [INAUDIBLE] COURTESY ALLOW COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE 3478 FURR TO MAKE THAT MOTION.

3479 WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR TWO.

3480 SO IT'S BEING TYPED IN BY STAFF.

3481 MAY I ASK, OFFER ONE MORE THING.

3482 YES JUST.

3483 THERE WAS CONCERN AS TO HOW THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER WOULD PICK THOSE.

3484 IT IS ALREADY ELABORATED IN THE AGREEMENT.

3485 IT CAN BE SLIGHTLY BECAUSE IT WAS MAINLY THE COUNTY COMMISSION WOULD DETERMINE 3486 THAT.

3487 3488 YES.

3489 AND IT WAS SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER UDINE.

3490 IS IT HER MOTION IS AMENDED RIGHT.

3491 HER NO.

3492 HER MOTION.

3493 WELL WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND TYPICALLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE HAVE THE ELECTRONIC 3494 VOTING.

3495 YEAH.

3496 SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE JUST SO EVERYBODY'S WE'RE GONNA BEGIN DEBATE BUT THIS IS 3497 TO VOTE ON AN AMENDMENT TO ADD TWO AT LARGE COUNTY COMMISSION ALTERNATES.

3498 BOARD MEMBER JAFFE, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

3499 I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM WE'RE VOTING FIRST ON AN AMENDMENT FOR TWO COUNTY 3500 COMMISSIONER ALTERNATES AND SCHOOL BOARD.

3501 AND THEN IF THAT FAILS THEN WE'LL BE VOTING ON A SECOND AMENDMENT FOR ONE COUNTY 3502 COMMISSIONER ALTERNATE WITH NO SCHOOL BOARD ALTERNATE.

3503 THAT IS CORRECT.

3504 SO I HEARD YOU MR. CHAIR COMMENT THAT THERE WAS NO YOU DIDN'T REFERENCE A 3505 SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER ALTERNATE.

3506 SO THAT WAS JUST NOW MADE BY MR. JAFFE DID INCLUDE A SCHOOL BOARD 3507 MEMBER.

3508 NO I WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION.

3509 NO BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT THE VOTE IS SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IT'S TWO 3510 ALTERNATE MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION AT LARGE AND DOES IT INCLUDE A

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3511 SCHOOL BOARD ALTERNATE? 3512 THAT WAS THE MOTION AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GANZ OK.

3513 THAT IS WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR NOW.

3514 OK.

3515 THERE'S NOBODY IN QUEUE FOR DEBATE.

3516 SO THE MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

3517 SO AT THIS TIME IF YOU VOTE YES THAT MEANS THAT IT'S APPROVAL OF ADDING TWO 3518 COUNTY COMMISSION ALTERNATES AND AN ALTERNATE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

3519 IF YOU VOTE NO.

3520 AND IF IT FAILS WE MOVE TO THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT.

3521 SO PLEASE VOTE NOW.

3522 OK.

3523 IF WE CAN GET A TALLY.

3524 OK.

3525 THAT AMENDMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED 15 TO 5.

3526 EVERYBODY VOTED? 3527 THERE'S ONE MISSING.

3528 OH WELL IT'S ALREADY BEEN TABULATED SO PLEASE JUST GIVE A VOICE VOTE ON YAY OR 3529 NAY.

3530 YES.

3531 [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE VOTING YES.

3532 OK.

3533 SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT IT WAS 16 TO 5 TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT AND I BELIEVE 3534 NOW WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEM WITH THE AMENDED LANGUAGE IS THAT 3535 CORRECT OR IS IT JUST TOTALLY APPROVED? 3536 IT'S APPROVED BUT WE GO TO B.

3537 B.

3538 OK AND DEFER B BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED ACCORDINGLY.

3539 IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE 4B TO THE NEXT MEETING.

3540 IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH TIME? 3541 WELL WE.

3542 SO WHAT.

3543 THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE IN NOW IS THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE 3544 RECOMMENDATION NOW WE'RE GONNA CREATE A NEW 4TH AMENDMENT AND PRESENT THAT 3545 TO THE COUNTY.

3546 THE COUNTY WILL REVIEW THAT AND WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THAT IT WILL ACCEPTABLE AND 3547 THEN WE'LL START PROCESSING TO THE CITIES FOR THEIR ACTIVE ACTION.

3548 THE BYLAWS CAN BE WITHHELD FURTHER THAN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE NEXT MEETING 3549 IT CAN BE LONGER ACTUALLY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE SUBJECT TO WHATEVER ACTION 3550 IS TAKEN ON WITH REGARD TO THE AMENDMENT TO THE FOURT AMENDMENT.

3551 SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE RULES SO LET'S SAY NOVEMBER.

3552 NOVEMBER.

3553 NOVEMBER IS GOOD.

3554 OKAY.

3555 SO I'LL ACCEPT A MOTION TO TABLE ITEM 4B TO THE NOVEMBER MPO MEETING.

3556 3557 OKAY.

3558 YEAH.

3559 SHE'S TYPING IT IN RIGHT NOW.

3560 OKAY.

3561 IT'S BEEN MOTIONED AND SECONDED.

3562 PLEASE VOTE ON THE TABLING OF 4B.

3563 OKAY HAS EVERYBODY VOTED? 3564 ALL RIGHT 17-0 THAT PASSES THAT'S TABLED.

3565 IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE W CLOSE THIS OFF?

[1. Member Comments]

3566 OH TYPE IN, PUSH IN YOUR BUTTON.

3567 BOARD MEMBER CARN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.

3568 THANK YOU IN RECOGNITION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH WE'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL 3569 TO OUR LATIN FEST IN THE CITY OF OAKLAND PARK SEPTEMBER 20TH WHICH IS A 3570 FRIDAY EVENING FROM 6 TO 10 IN OUR DOWNTOWN PARK JACO PASTORIUS PARK ON DIXIE 3571 HIGHWAY.

3572 THANK YOU.

3573 YOU'LL SEE ME DO THE SALSA THERE.

3574 MERENGUE.

3575 WELL DON'T TRY TO SCARE PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE EVENT MR STUART.

3576 OKAY.

3577 ALL RIGHT.

3578 NO MORE COMMENTS.

3579 THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

3580 THANK YOU FOR STAYING.



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